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Request for template comment[edit]

Hello, I just wanted to know what your opinion is on this template. It would be nice to have any input on it.

Thanks,

Assessment bot question[edit]

Just a quick question someone asked, but I'm curious about it too. Do you know how often the bot updates the assessment statistics for WikiProject Maryland? It was last updated 5 days ago, but also 3 days before that, so I'm a bit confused.-Jeff (talk) 19:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Measurement Page volunteers[edit]

Right now the content related to the various articles relating to measurement seems to be rather indifferently handled. This is not good, because at least 45 or so are of a great deal of importance to Wikipedia, and are even regarded as Vital articles. On that basis, I am proposing a new project at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Measurement to work with these articles, and the others that relate to the concepts of measurement. Any and all input in the proposed project, including indications of willingness to contribute to its work, would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your attention. John Carter 20:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As an architect I have been collecting information on this topic for going on four decades,

email me with any questions and I will be happy to furnish things like references Rktect 00:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Philosophy template[edit]

I've taken a stab at fixing the code, but since I'm not quite sure what the intended result was in all cases, you'll need to test yourselves. Kirill 01:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think what ever the warlord did made the aesthetics category not work. Other than that K Lokshin you are a life saver. Thanks to both of you for your attention to this matter. The whole proposal concerning these task forces is still on-going, we could use some input at WP:Phil. Be well, Gregbard 14:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, you can view a test page for the tag here.

Firstly, thank you for your comments on the A-Class review of Biman Bangladesh Airlines. I have expanded the article quite a bit since the review in May and have submitted it for peer review with the intention of taking it to FAC soon. The article has had a thorough copyedit from a member of the League of Copyeditors (and more is expected) but I'd like to address most concerns before the FAC stage. I'd be grateful if you could review the article and post your comments on the talk page and any concerns on the review page. → AA (talk) — 09:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should we delete this list[edit]

Some people are selective they would like to see only lists of their own domination, what do u think does this list warrant deletion or should we let it stay?[1]--יודל 13:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just letting you know they article is currently having an A-class review Buc 19:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Bot tagging[edit]

Greetings, I have seen your name everywhere already. Thanks for your recent attention to WP:PHILO and the aesthetics dept. I had recently been working on the logic project. I did quite a bit of work on it, and then ran up against some cultural issues.

I wanted to get User:SatyrBot (an apparently wonderful service!!) to automatically tag articles with the new logic banner for the purpose of assessment. I put together a category list, publicized the issue, and then moved forward with no objection. Well the complainers came out of the woodwork! The bot was stopped and at this point most have been untagged. I find all of this quite terrible.

Since then, I have been working on WP:PHILO with all of these task forces. I got the sense that people were a lot less uptight in general over there. I have changed direction a bit and now am advocating that the philosophy project tag incorporate these fields and be placed appropriately, etc. However, there is no real enthusiasm for the auomatic bot tagging proposal. Although there is far less hostility to it!

I intend to ask the bot to tag just the Aesthetics project and see how things go. I haven't put this proposal out to WP:PHILO yet, I wanted to give you a chance to comment on it. Any advice or support in these goals would be appreciated. Gregbard 07:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Buddhism[edit]

Hi Warlordjohncarter. You added a Buddhism banner on Talk:Kizeme and Talk:Maai. I have some interest in both Buddhism and martial arts, but I don't see how those articles relate to Buddhism, so I'm curious to what connection You see. —Leo Laursen ( T | C ) 10:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, OK. I didn't notice that they are in Category:Zen. They probably shouldn't be, but that's another discussion. Thanks for the clarification. —Leo Laursen ( T | C ) 13:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blade and Buddhism[edit]

What's the connection? --Leocomix 10:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Buddhism[edit]

Notwithstanding the fact that I never heard that Blade was Buddhist (I actually don't believe it, I have never seen it in Tomb of Dracula nor in the last series), I don't see what fictional religious practitioners have to do with a project on the actual religion. Would you include Scrooge McDuck in a financial policy project because he's a fictional banker??? Lacking any better supported reason, I see no reason to maintain the banner. --Leocomix 14:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John Carter, you show great care in the edits of yours that I've seen so far, notably the specific descriptions about removing the Buddhism section in Blade (comics). You're very meticulous about sourcing, and I just wanted to compliment you. --Tenebrae 04:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is an attempt currently under way to delete Stuart Dauermanns biography, i understand that much info is based on his own words but this man seems very prominent and notable on outside websites from Google can u help save it? by correcting the problems if u find some on it. thanks--יודל 17:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox images[edit]

Hi. I couldn't find that policy you mentioned. At WikiProject Comics: Superhero box images, it only says not to use images that wouldn't fall under fair-use guidelines, such as Marvel Handbook images. But the covers we use elsewhere throughout an article do fall under fair-use guidelines. Given this, I'll restore the Blade cover, and we can initiate a discussion on the Blade or WikiProject Comics talk page if you have a different interpretation of the guideline I've linked to. Thanks. -- Tenebrae 17:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank — I'll post this link in the WikiProject Comics Talk Page. I read it to mean that non-free images aren't to be used as part of the template itself — in other words, you couldn't have an image of, say, Spider-Man be a part of the Marvel Comics template, and show up in every Marvel Comics infobox. But, as I said, I'll start a discussion on it here — and thanks again for your work and effort in finding that policy page and providing the link. -- Tenebrae 22:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copernicus[edit]

 See the Talk page of the Copernicus article. Luther and the like opposed Copernicanism.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.121.145.236 (talk) 13:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply] 

End of WP:Bio assessment drive[edit]

I have reraised the issue (see towards the bottom) as to whether assessors should receive all the awards they qualify for or only the highest one. Your input is appreciated. BrokenSphereMsg me 18:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

WikiProject James Bond[edit]

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The new collaboration for this fortnight is (September 8, 2007]] - September 22, 2007) is

Moonraker (novel)

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Dude I created that page today. You cant expect a community to form in just a day... -- Cat chi? 21:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, there is currently a discussion about the notability of Rabbi Shraga Hager your insight on this would greatly be appreciated[2]. Have a beautiful day--יודל 13:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image review[edit]

The idea might have some merit. However, a WikiProject is probably not the best way to go. What we're probably talking about here would be something along the lines of policy, not project. As such, it would probably be best to propose it at the Wikipedia:Village pump, possibly as a suggested policy guideline, with a page written out describing what you think the actions, qualifications, and limitations of the group would be. Be aware that a lot of people would react negatively to anything they perceive as being "beauracracy creep", and that this has a real chance of becoming that. Alternately, you might contact the people at Wikimedia Commons about setting up such a group there, as all free images are allegedly being tried to be deposited there anyway. John Carter 15:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the existing policy is that "unfreee images must not be tagged as free". And the wikiproject was intended to reinforce that..
The images are on English wikipedia so they need to be tagged here so that they can be moved to commons. I actually am a commons admin and I do hope to set this up on commons too though freely licensed non-free media is not much of a problem on commons as they are shot on sight unlike how it is on en where they are overlooked.
I do want the project to be run by a selected group of people despite the objections. During the transaction on Spanish Wikipedia (at which the community decided to disabled uploads and moved every free-image to commons) we had to deal with so many freely licensed non-free image uploads. This transaction should not be a bother for commons people. There is no point to the tagging if it is going to be conducted by the same people who falsely use the free license. Of course the group would not be a cabal but I think what I seek with this is not all that obscure. WP:MEDCOM has elections for example.
I would welcome if you resurrected the idea either as a policy/guideline or as a wikiproject. I want to avoid any direct involvement as it would be treated with out most hostility, something I got used to. I would prefer to "join" the idea rather than "found" it at this point.
-- Cat chi? 15:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Inactive WikiProjects[edit]

Just a note that I removed Esperanza from the list. While it could be considered an inactive WP, the brouhaha surrounding it is just too much to invite in to any discussions WP:Council will have - there are still editors that feel waay too strongly about it, IMHO. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Deletion sorting/Antarctica[edit]

Your input at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Antarctica MfD would be appreciated. -- Jreferee (Talk) 22:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Buddhist deletions[edit]

You're in a much better position to know than I am about what the Buddhism project considers within its scope. Personally, all the articles I listed fall within at least one of the subcats of Category:Buddhism, including the ones you removed from the project. Personally, were it me, I would restore them. All those individuals are, after all, Buddhists. They may not be the highest priority articles for the project, but they do tend to make the project's numbers look better, which can help. Anyway, the decision is yours. I think I've added the banner to all the articles on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Buddhism/Articles page, so I'm more or less done with the assessments now. I am now off to trying to assess all the other religion projects, because most of the projects don't do many assessments on their own. It is my intention to contribute a bit more to the projects when the assessments are done, if nothing else to doing a little to improve the 1.0 selections. Good luck with the project until then. John Carter 01:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I don't tend to think we list sportspeople and celebrities under their respective religious projects unless they partake in public religious activiity. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But thanks for digging up all those old DYKS and such and for your efforts in general, and at DYK of course. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am considering revising or deleting information from one of your edits[edit]

I have raised certain questions (if not objections) to some of the information and the source used in your recent edit to Pope Anianus of Alexandria. I have stated these on the article's discussion page, and do not need to repeat them here, however I would like to flag your attention to the matter, so that the discussion may be resolved without unnecessary reverting or edit warring. Thanks for your time. Brando130 04:49, 12 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Buddhism and philosophy tags[edit]

Would you object if I removed the philosophy box from the talk pages of Buddhists who seem to not have made any contribution to philosophy at all, and similarly removed the cat: buddhist philosopher? Consider the page on Ösel Tendzin. He was clearly a buddhist, but was he really a buddhist philosopher? It seems unlikely that people searching for informaiton on buddhist philosophy or philosophers will learn anything from reading about him, and also unlikely that people who particpate in wuikiprojectphilosopy because they are interested in philosophy will be able to improve the page. I do agree with many of the Buddhist philosopher tags and cats - jusyt every so often they seem misplaced. Anarchia 02:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply, I will be cautious with any removals - especially with article that look to be significant to the phil and religion people. Anarchia 20:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy in the Iglesia ni Cristo article.[edit]

I'm sending this to all the WP:WPINC members. I'm noticing a group of newcomers to Wikipedia who are attempting to edit the INC article to include detailed accounts of the criminal actions of INC members. I've tried to summarize some of them into the criticism section, which resulted in renaming the section "Controversy and criticism". Those edits are being Wikipedia:Edit warred over. Can we help alleviate this? --wL<speak·check> 05:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Yet another request[edit]

I'll look into it, but given the complexity involved I'm not sure whether doing a fill-in-the-blanks type of approach will work. Kirill 23:25, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zoroastrianism project[edit]

I just noticed that you and someone else were involved in a discussion about the scope of the Zoroastrianism project, and that neither of you are members of the project? How exactly do the two of you have authority to determine the scope of the project, as you both seem to believe you have. Mithraist —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mithraist (talkcontribs) 17:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is to advise you that the project above, which you created, is being considered for deletion in accord with wikipedia policy. Please feel free to take part in the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Aramaic. Thank you. John Carter 15:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I've replied at the MfD page. אמר Steve Caruso 20:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Athanasius of Alexandria[edit]

While you are correct on how he (St. Athanasius) is commonly known, I'm sure it's OK to have it as it is AS LONG as "Athanasius of Alexandria" redirects to the current article name. ~ Troy 23:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

AWARD[edit]

Oh my god!!!! You've made my week!!!!! Not only has Casino passed I now have several credited FA'S, I now have the coveted Film barnstar which I've yearned for and I've managed to negotiate a license for wikipedia to use an image bank of several thousand free images on Bollywood film actors of which we have waited 6 years to get some images!!! I made an agreement with the Director of Caledonian publishing. Did you know about this also?? I am gushing today a record 5 barnstars!!! This makes up for any difficulty I've had on here big time. Thankyou so much you don;t know much it means to me and Mr Bigglesworth to be appreciated!!!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 21:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh Biggleworth has contributed to animal articles!!!!!. He set up the Wildlife of Africa series see Wildlife of Algeria etc and WIldlife of Asia series see Wildlife of Pakistan22:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blofeld of SPECTRE (talkcontribs)

Request for Mediation[edit]

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NazSeal[edit]

I don't know if you've seen the most recent reply about the seal on the nazproject talk page, but an unregistered user offered this: [3]. Still no good? Sorry, I know I must be annoying. I'm trying to understand this better, so I apologise. Aepoutre 18:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks![edit]

I noticed you have been assessing a lot of the articles covered by Wikipedia:WikiProject intelligent design, and came by to ask if you wanted to add yourself as a participant, but then saw how many projects you are already involved with, and how much assessment work you do - but the offer stands, and thank you thank you for tackling that stack of articles! KillerChihuahua?!? 18:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RFA?[edit]

Hello John, I would like to nominate you for adminship via the standard process at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. Given your credentials, it is virtually certain that you would be given the admin tools if you asked for them; the only question is if you want to be able to perform deletions, blocks, and protections, or if you think that it would distract you from WikiProjects and article writing. Please respond on my talk page. Shalom Hello 18:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

greetings[edit]

I have just been reverting the antartica project category pages to NA rather than cat - as it is much neater - thought id tell you - I have also left a message at the project talk page as well - cheers SatuSuro 03:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have found the point of reckoning - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category_talk%3ACategory-Class_Antarctica_articles - if someone fixes up the cat= inside the template, then I'll gladly revert my changes - and notify the project. If there is no response in reasonable time - then I will move em all to the NA status for neatness sake - cheers SatuSuro 06:40, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I realise you might have been busy - but I would be interested if you were able to tweak the antartica project template to exclude the dangling bit? I would appreciate a response on this - as I dont want to undo your good work - simply put I would not allow myself into the template - cheers SatuSuro 13:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Award[edit]

The Original Barnstar
I hereby award The Original Barnstar to Warlordjohncarter in recognition of assessing over 1654 articles for WikiProject Biography's Summer 2007 Assessment Drive. Psychless 00:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your kind words. You did a great job yourself though; 1600 articles is no small feat. Anyhow, I really don't need another award. The amazing success of the drive was enough for me. I'm going to try to put together a newsletter for the project in the next few days, to inform everyone of what's happened in the past few months. If you could look over it before I send it out I'd be grateful. Psychless 22:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The newsletter is pretty much finished. You can find it here. Psychless 21:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Importance scale for WikiProject intelligent design[edit]

You've recently placed a large number of articles into 'Top' for this project, to the extent that we had more 'Top' importance articles than 'High' importance. I've taken the liberty of scaling back a number of them. I would suggest that you take a closer look at: Wikipedia:WikiProject intelligent design/Assessment#Importance scale. I seriously doubt if all of the articles you assessed as 'Top' are "of the utmost importance to this project, as it forms the basis of all information." HrafnTalkStalk 06:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Intelligent design is a very different, and far smaller (approximately 1/100th the number of articles in the project), topic than Germany. It is therefore unsurprising that the rules for one will only imperfectly apply to the other. I would suspect that, given its smaller size, ID has a far flatter hierarchy than Germany, with a far higher proportion of the project given sections in the main article. In any case, even the Germany importance guideline doesn't state that you should automatically give "topics [that] are sub-articles of the main Germany article", only that one should "generally" do so. HrafnTalkStalk 16:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That articles "see-also"ed from the main article should be Top-level articles isn't some universal rule, but merely a local "rule of thumb" that happens to be (presumably) applicable in WP:GERMANY but is demonstrably grossly inapplicable in Wikipedia:WikiProject intelligent design. One size does not fit all! HrafnTalkStalk 16:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would not be in favour of Wikipedia:WikiProject intelligent design being expanded to cover all of Creationism. ID is currently by far the most active form of creationism, and therefore the area requiring the most active scrutiny, new articles, etc. With the isolated exception of the new Creation Museum the rest of the Creationism movement is far less active. This means that a Project targeting ID specifically (but whose members will, inevitably, do the occasional pottering in other Creationism topics from time to time) would appear to be the most effective structure. HrafnTalkStalk 16:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

explanation of the antartica issue[edit]

Ok - if you use class=cat - the following happens:-

Category talk:Adélie Land
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Antarctica, a WikiProject on the continent of Antarctica and its surrounding area.
If you would like to participate, please join the project.
Category - This article has been rated as Cat-Class on the quality scale.
??? - This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.

So it happens to identify the quality scale - and the importance scale - which are not relevant for the category or non article status.

So when we look at a category where I have tagged class=NA - the template responds neatly - politely and has no dangling bits - viz: -

Category talk:Bays of Antarctica
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Antarctica, a WikiProject on the continent of Antarctica and its surrounding area.
If you would like to participate, please join the project.
NA - This page is not an article and does not require a rating.


I do hope you can follow this - if it is possible to either do a template switch for where class=cat to have the same response as the NA tag - it would save a lot of time SatuSuro 15:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


thanks for the heads up - but the question still really is - are you willing/interested/able - in changing the template for the cat designation to be neater? SatuSuro 15:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


if I read that right (and I am about to sign off for the night) I will slowly but surely over time change the collective gathering of antarctica categories to the NA rather than the cat - thanks for putting up with me - cheers SatuSuro 15:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I am really sorry if I have made a fuss - please dont feel the need to do it all - must go SatuSuro 15:26, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that. SatuSuro 01:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ebionites post-mediation[edit]

Since Michael Price has rejected formal mediation, I expect that there will be an attempt to add misleading material back into the article. I could use your help reverting these changes while we discuss what to do next. Ovadyah 15:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please explain to me what "community enforcable mediation" is and where I can comment on it? Cheers, Str1977 (talk) 09:34, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Dear John,
I have now reviewed the term of that mediation type. In principle I don't object to that but the problem is a) the question whether Ovadyah will participate at all, following his declaration, b) that this type of mediation require more, not less willingness on an disputant's part to cooperate with others and I cannot see that in Michael, given his rejction of the normal type of mediation and his insistence that our supposed bad faith assumption must be subject to the mediation too. I for my part have never assumed bad faith to him, though I have myself received such a treatment from Michael, and that since day one. As for Ovadyah, he and Michael go back longer and I think that at one point Ovadyah has concluded bad faith, which is not the same as assuming it. Str1977 (talk) 12:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please participate, WikiProject James Bond collaboration[edit]

WikiProject James Bond:Collaboration of the fortnight (two weeks)
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Never Say Never Again

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A-class review: Mendy Rudolph[edit]

John, what are you thoughts on the Mendy Rudolph biography now that I've added some additional details on his marriage, gambling problems, and death? Thanks! RyguyMN 15:56, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation[edit]

Hi. we are Borbotonesteam from the wikiproject for English Advanced B. We have uploaded some information and opinions about the last weeks of work we have had. We also put information about the wikiproject mexico and some more data about us. We hope you have the chance to read our userpage and give us some feedback about it. Thanks for your help.Please anwer at our discussion page. Wikipedia talk:School and university projects/ITESM Campus Toluca/Borbotonesteam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.139.131.16 (talk) 03:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

WP Republic of Macedonia controversy[edit]

Hi John,

Thanks for the heads up on the WP Europe Slovenia/Albania angle -- I didn't know about it, but it is an interesting alternative. I am still hopeful that the WP can be saved though... I think there's room for a RoM WP, and with a little bit of admin'ing, it can still work. I guess we'll see how it goes, and I may yet have to take you up on that offer! ;) Cheers, AWN AWN2 07:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Warlordjohncarter,

Would you be interested in trying to make your (proposed) WikiProject becoming a succes by actively involving yourself in a recruitment agency aimed at establishing an active base of participants for a WikiProject?--Daanschr 10:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John,
Its a good contribution that you made on the article about the recruitment project. You have a mind for analysis. I guess the first thing to do is to look for several participants, for the moment. The most tricky part will be psychology, i think. The answer to the questions: what does it take to get participants? What does these participants want to do? How can we increase and maintain commitment from these participants? It requires a bit of selfdiscipline or authority to make things run. These questions fit the most in the management department, i guess. The department dealing with the reality check and effectivity. Dreams and conflicts can be for the development department. Just a few thoughts.--Daanschr 19:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
John, i would like to discuss with you in the talk page of the recruitment project about the management project. We both have some ideas about it and i don't know exactly where these ideas are similar or where they are dissimilar and could collide.--Daanschr 19:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recruitment project[edit]

John,

I have scheduled two kinds of tasks for the moment:

  • Organize the management department in order to make recruitment possible for WikiProjects.
  • Recruiting new participants who can help organizing the management department.

Also, i am thinking about a namechange. Instead of Wikipedia:WikiProject recruitment for WikiProjects, it would be better to call it Wikipedia:Recruitment for WikiProjects.--Daanschr 12:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regular meetings[edit]

Veterinary science, antartica, monty python - (there seem to be some links to this odd conversation) - are there really any other editors in the whole wiki project who have an interest in project management? is there a possibility that there should be in fact an off your talk page a space where like persons exchange ideas? perhaps there is a need for such a space or is it somewhere i havent ventured yet? SatuSuro 15:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply - It looks interesting - it seems the gene pool of editors who look beyond their own immediate corners - and to the whole project of wikipedia as a whole is mathematically related to the increase of articles and editors and vandals - ok even if there were a few interested - perhaps there is hope. Will put myself in - thanks for the lead SatuSuro 15:31, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doh! -off your talk page space - this is what I was thinking about was - and it does exist - Wikipedia:WikiProject Council - amnesia from too much monty python tagging SatuSuro 15:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - what more can i say? SatuSuro 00:00, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate banner removal[edit]

Thanks for your efforts to clean up some of the ancient Egypt articles. You have identified some of the banners as being duplicate. I too once thought they were duplicates, but actually one is the ancient Egypt banner and the other is Egyptian religion banner. I'm not sure we really do need both, but FYI they are not exact duplicates. Jeff Dahl 23:31, 27 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Ebionism[edit]

Got your note, thanks. I was just about to post my assent on the Ebionism Talk page. I note that you say adminUser Nishidani in the formal complaint. I know nothing of bureaucratic procedures and structures here outside of those governing the drafting of articles, which is my only concern. If admin means I am other than a simple editor, like most in here, the monicker should be of course cancelled. I hope I am not (as usual in these technical matters on Wiki) confused. You will, in any case, have my full support on the issue raised. Regards Nishidani 16:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John, please consider asking for an immediate short-term block (say three weeks) while we present our evidence to the arbitration committee. That will give us sufficient time to repair the damage and restore the article to FA level. It would be good to tell FAR we have a plan in place and are working as swiftly as possible to satisfy the stated objections. Ovadyah 15:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I got your message, thanks. I don't know of any imminent action by FAR, but I will let you know if that changes. At this point, all we need for ArbCom is Str1977's initial statement (I left him a message). Ovadyah 15:58, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dbachmann seems to be coming up repeatedly on the talk page. I sense that some editors are appealing to his authority as an admin by putting words in his mouth. Should we ask him to make an initial statement for ArbCom so that he can speak for himself? Ovadyah 20:27, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

State geological article requests[edit]

Hi. I honestly expected wikipedia to have full detailed articles on Geology by state e.g Geology of California or Geology of Utah. I'm not even from the States but I had fully expected a detailed article on each state. Some of the American geological articles are very poor or non existent see Basic geologic features of each state. PLease could your project aim to start these articles and develop them. All the best and thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 13:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Hey, I'm curious what you think this article would need to get up to Start class. Cheers! Murderbike 19:05, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]