User talk:Jonessneed

Speedy deletion nomination of Samuel Harrison (chaplain)

Hello Jonessneed,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Samuel Harrison (chaplain) for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Amortias (T)(C) 21:22, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

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SarahStierch (talk) 23:52, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Women in the Roaring Twenties

One of the students for you Women in American History (Fall 2017) class created the article Women in the Roaring Twenties. I have redirected this article to Roaring Twenties#Society, as that article already extensively covers the topic and hand, and the new article constituted a content fork. I recommend that you review the work, and instruct your students regarding this aspect of Wikipedia editing. @Shalor (Wiki Ed):, perahaps you should get involved in reviewing this as well. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:46, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks WikiDan61! The biggest thing I can see at first glance is that the article contained a lot of information that, as you stated, is already in the main article. There is a section about women in the Roaring Twenties, however it's not really about women in general as much as it's a list of specific women. This is a bit problematic since it poses an issue of original research since it's a list of specific women that one person feels are important and indicative of the era. This leads to the next issue, because while these are all amazing women, they aren't exactly common examples of women during this era as they're celebrities from the worlds of acting, fashion, and literature. They don't really give the reader a good insight into what the average woman did and experienced. They also need to be careful to make sure that these women were notable during that era, as we want to make sure that this was an active point during their lives where they were widely recognized and/or active as opposed to just having lived during that point in time.) Another thing to be cautious of is sourcing, as they want to make sure that they have the best sourcing possible. Finally, they also need to look over the article to see what has already been covered - there's a short section on women's suffrage (since this has its own article) as well as a section on the changing role of women during the era. I hope that this doesn't discourage Emolee12 - I think that this is a good area to look into, but it needs work. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:05, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

@Shalor (Wiki Ed): If you think there's the seed of a valid article here, that just needs more work, might I suggest that we move it back to the draft space? The author created it as a draft and moved it to article space without prior review. It might be healthier if it were improved and then went through a normal AFC process. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:09, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

• I think that there may be a good article in this, but I think that it may take a while. The class ends on the 12th so this may not be enough time for the student to draft an article like this in that time, since they most likely have other classes and finals to prepare for. I definitely think that this is something that the Women in Red WikiProject would be interested in and they may be willing to give them some help if they want to try to take this on. I would absolutely recommend working on it in AfC or the userspace, though. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:12, 7 December 2017 (UTC)