User talk:Joseefitness

Your submission at Articles for creation: SaberZ (November 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Primefac was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Primefac (talk) 04:06, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: SaberZ (November 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CASSIOPEIA was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:SaberZ and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:SaberZ, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
• If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk or on the reviewer's talk page.
• You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 11:43, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Joseefitness, you are invited to the Teahouse!

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Your draft article, Draft:SaberZ

Hello, Joseefitness. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "SaberZ".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Mjs1991 (talk) 03:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:SaberZ

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Draft:SaberZ, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Jalen Folf (talk) 01:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, Joseefitness, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms of use and our policy on paid editing.

Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

• The plain and simple conflict of interest guide
• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• Contributing to Wikipedia
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• Simplified Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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Please sign your messages with your name, not mine. Thank you for sating that you don't have a conflict of interest, you will appreciate that most similar articles are written by the musicians or their management, so you are bound to be asked. If you have no COI, perhaps you can explain why you said i'm the only one who... has access to the page's link.?

Also read the following regarding writing an article

• you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls. Your text had no in-line references, so we have no idea what claimed facts each is supporting. Also the refs listed at the bottom seem to be them talking about themselves, when we need independent third-party sources.
• You can't use social media as refs or as external links
• There are no referenced facts suggesting that they meet notability guidelines for music, and quite a lot, like all those free downloads suggesting they don't. This isn't a fan site, if they don't meet our' notability criteria, the article won't survive for that reason alone. An interminable list of everything they have ever done isn't helping
• you must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews. Also note that it's not your page, or their page, it's our page that anyone can edit.
• there shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
• you must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

I'm prepared in principle to restore, but first please make sure that they meet the music notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article, and, since you mention her Rhianna, to see what a music page should like like (doesn't need to be that length of course. Have a think and let me know Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:26, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hello again! Jimfbleak - talk to me?. What i meant with that is that nobody knows anything about the draft, like, not even them. No one has access to it so nobody could ever use it as a "promotional page". In my opinion, it's nonsense since i'm not connected to any of them and i don't work for them, like i said. It has always been a draft and it's not actually "online", you need the link to access to the draft so that's why i didn't understand why it got deleted. I do understand though, that that sentence was a bit promotional, but i've already said that the biography was a copy paste from their own biography so i could use as biography structure afterwards. Of course that was nothing compared to what i want the biography to look like. So, I'm just a fan of them so that's the reason why i created the page and the reason why i wanted to write about them. About the music notability criteria, i know for sure when i started the page two years ago they didn't pass it, but since they are much much bigger now in every aspect of their career (music, popularity, connections to very famous people, labels, etc), i'd say they do, and if not, they'd be very close. This year they were going to play at the most famous electronic dance music event "Tomorrowland", although with the coronavirus crisis all the events have been canceled.

So, hope you understand and you can give me back the page :)

Hello, I'm Deb. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.Deb (talk) 18:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Have you read the guidelines on Wikipedia:Advertising and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Also, I'm a bit concerned about your username. Could you tell me what it means? Deb (talk) 09:23, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I think I missed another message from you on my talk page a few days ago. There's nothing wrong with your user name per se, but it would be unacceptable if, for example, you were running a fitness studio, or if it was the name of a Youtube channel that promotes the subject of the article. Deb (talk) 16:17, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

There is nothing to stop you beginning the page again, but I would recommend you look at other pages for musicians first, and see how they demonstrated notability and avoided being tagged as promotional. You haven't done many edits on other topics, which is always advisable before you start trying to create articles. Deb (talk) 08:26, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Are you aware that you have added a speedy deletion notice to your own article? Deb (talk) 12:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:SaberZ

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Draft:SaberZ, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Jalen Folf (talk) 04:25, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I am copying this to your User talk for your convenience. After another look, I am withdrawing my speedy deletion request and will hold back on further involvement, with exception to an Articles for creation review given my own time and should you decide to submit through this process. Please do not notify me if you decide to submit, as I am also watching your draft. Good luck! Jalen Folf (talk) 05:05, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

April 2021

Hi Joseefitness! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. I'm only sending this as a reminder of when to use the Minor edit checkbox; your edits were not reverted for any misuse. Jalen Folf (talk) 18:24, 18 April 2021 (UTC)