User talk:Julien Portasseau

This is Julien Portasseau's talk page, where you can send them messages and comments.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jean-Louis Pasteur (April 27)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Not satisfying our applied notability standards and notability cannot be inherited from others.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Jean-Louis Pasteur and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk or on the reviewer's talk page.
You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

SwisterTwister talk 23:23, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can ask another question on your talk page, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.

Clarification requested[edit]

Thank you, Swister Twister, for your reviewing my draft about Jean-Louis Pasteur.

I am not sure to unequivocally understand your comment. So may I ask :

1) whether you have examined the external links and consider this musician doesn't desserve a mention in Wikipedia or

2) whether this musician might have his place in Wikipedia but my draft is not appropriately written (with what I fully agree !).

In the 1st case, there would be nothing more to add.

In the 2nd case, I would be pleased if someone could help me choose the worthy elements in the external links and format them in suitable Wikipedian shape.

Thank you in advance,

Julien Portasseau (talk) 13:18, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks in advance for an answer. Julien Portasseau (talk) 16:35, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. My name is Eggishorn and I saw your request for help. I am not @SwisterTwister: but I've pinged them so they know you have asked a follow-up question. Although from prior experience I have a good sense that they probably did review the external links, I don't want to speak for them. Having done so myself, however, I can tell you that they are not evidence of notability under the guidelines here. The sources that demonstrate notability need three qualities:

Significant coverage: the article/book/whatever needs to have more than a passing mention or a simple event listing for the subject
Independent sources: the sources need to be independent of the article subject. Almost all the links in the draft here are owned/controlled/posted by the article subject.
Reliable sources: the sources need to demonstrate some some form of editorial judgment and attempted standard of accuracy. For example, we don't use another wiki as a source to verify information in this wiki (and one of your links is to a wiki on the article subject's website). I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:34, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Jean-Louis Pasteur concern[edit]

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Jean-Louis Pasteur, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:36, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Jean-Louis Pasteur[edit]

Hello, Julien Portasseau. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Jean-Louis Pasteur".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. TKK! bark with me! 18:55, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Answer : Thank you for your message. I did not understand what was required from me in Wikipedia's former messages and I thus didn't feel competent to write Jean-Louis Pasteur's notice. As there is now a detailed page on the life and work of this musician on Internet I guess that someone will someday write something about him in Wikipedia if it is worth it. Best regards,Julien Portasseau (talk) 15:19, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]