User talk:JzG/Archive 217
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Requesting a reduction in page protection
On 30 November 2019, you salted the page Christine Weston Chandler. I cannot find the discussion behind this, but I imagine it was due to WP:BLP concerns, since at the time, there were little-to-no secondary sources aboout Chris and most information about her was known through invasion of her privacy. But nowadays, Chris has been referenced in mainstream media, had major national news networks cover her arrest, had a book from a major publisher written about her, had people make an entire wiki and multi-hour documentaries about her, and become arguably the most documented person in history. Here are some high-quality articles attesting to her notability:
- KVIA, People articles on the recent incest charges (amongst others)
- Gaming the Dynamics of Online Harassment, by Kevin Veale (Palgrave-Macmillan, 2020)
- Event Horizon: Sexuality, Politics, Online Culture, and the Limits of Capitalism, Bonni Rambatan and Jacob Johanssen, (Zero Books, 2021)
- Vaughn, Victor. "Deposition, Conjecture, and the Word of Nod." (2015).
In previous talk pages, the concern was raised that this page could be used for harrassment. However, it could simply be protected to WP:ECP, or a non-attacking page created and then permanently locked. The intention of this is not to harrass Chris, but simply to fill an odd gap in Wikipedia's coverage of people, since Chris is currently by far the most notable person without a Wikipedia page. Additionally, Chris herself has stated several times that she wants to have a Wikipedia page. So, in conclusion, I believe pages relating to Chris Chan should be un-salted.I💖平沢唯 (talk) 00:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am no longer an admin, and you'll have an uphill struggle here because of her history with the utterly toxic KiwiFarms. The inclusion of the incest allegation makes it sound like the usual WP:COATRACK that we've seen from them before. Guy (help! - typo?) 15:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ILoveHirasawaYui: It is incredibly unlikely that anyone will be permitted to write anything about that topic at Wikipedia. People pushing the topic are likely to be blocked. The reason for that should be self-evident. Anyone having trouble understanding that might not be a good fit for Wikipedia. I am an admin. Johnuniq (talk) 05:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- The reason is not self-evident to me. Can you please explain it? I💖平沢唯 (talk) 06:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- No page at Wikipedia is available for trolling victims of harassment regardless of what they or anyone else thinks about it. Please find other topic to work on. Johnuniq (talk) 06:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- But Chris has attracted plenty of media attention outside of being a harassment victim. And besides, Wikipedia has a whole category called "Victims of cyberbullying". I think a hypothetical Wikipedia page on Chris would mention her as the author of Sonichu, her transition, and her arrest, trial and release for incest charges. It would only mention the harassment very briefly, as most media outlets did after her arrest. The only information on the page would be what the media reported about Chris. Once the page is made and finalised, it would be locked to prevent vandalism. I💖平沢唯 (talk) 23:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- No page at Wikipedia is available for trolling victims of harassment regardless of what they or anyone else thinks about it. Please find other topic to work on. Johnuniq (talk) 06:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- The reason is not self-evident to me. Can you please explain it? I💖平沢唯 (talk) 06:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, you're Twitter-famous
Congratulations on being mentioned. BD2412 T 16:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)