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What concerns?[edit]

[1] What concerns would those be? FeloniousMonk 18:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like your new username[edit]

Dear Guy. I'm sorry to tell you. I will try to be honest. Your new username, even if I know it may silly what I say, I don't like it. Now you know me very well and since you know I have a deep respect to you I have to tell you this. I loved the other long, very nice username, so I suggest you should change it back. I respect your decision, whatever this will be, but I hope you'll change it back. That long name gave you a stylish and nice looking signature. It represents a lot more info then the current one. It was very nice and I loved it. Maybe you remember that maybe I was the first who asked you about the origin of your name since it has a "romanian" word in it. Just zis Guy, you know? it was my friend's name that I was always glad to see on the talk page deffending me. You were my support in many difficult times and I want to thank you. I may have not sufficient thanked you for this. Please change it back. You'll still be my friend, I guess I'll have to get used with this change. I just wanted to tell this since I've seen on my watchlist this change. I respect your changing but I had to tell you. It gives so much of you that long name. Please reconsider. Bonaparte talk 18:44, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just want to tell you that it was written by once, so, as a second thaught I just want to assure you that I hope I will be also a support for you. Maybe a change is good from time to time and if you needed then I simply have to support you. Bonaparte talk 18:50, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The sig looks the same, it's just that the username is shorter. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 19:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Then I'm happy Guy! I didn't realized this :) Bonaparte talk 20:59, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I also dislike the name change, although I have to say if you keep your sig piped it will work for me, and JzG is indeed shorter and easier to type. KillerChihuahua?!? 19:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of people use JzG as an abbreviation anyway, for some reason the rather obvious and equally short Guy does not seem to occur to them :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 16:40, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I always used Guy, although I confess I was usually tempted to use Zaphod, which would have really confused people. KillerChihuahua?!? 17:15, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator?[edit]

I was wondering if you ever considered being an administrator? I would be happy to nominate you on RfA. Ifnord 16:35, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, this is the third time it's been suggested :-) I have seen a lot of admins driven away by opposition to decisions they've made and I have also seen several who have used their admin powers in disputes in which they are personally involved (and I am sure I would be tempted to do the same), so I am very wary, as my judgment is not always as clear as I'd like it to be. On the other hand, access to deleted edits would be extremely useful sometimes... - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 16:39, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have found your comments on AfD to be level-headed and positive. You have done a ton of fine editing and writing. You seem to think you don't have the best judgment, I humbly disagree. I think anyone who doubts their judgment demonstrates good insight and a willingness to learn from their own mistakes. I will happily nominate you, you can always decline. =) Ifnord 16:55, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am glad you have accepted it, let me post it up. And, good luck! Ifnord 00:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Larvatus[edit]

In the most recent round of e-mailed court filings from Larvatus (the zipped TIFF files, not the PDFs) you'll find the documents (use the Bates number to identify each):

  1. The draft complaint from the law offices of David Affeld filed against Min Zhu for childhood sexual abuse, assault, battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress on behalf of Erin Zhu, his daughter and plaintiff. Entered as evidence in 1-02-CV-809286 Bates number P1116
  2. Interview entered as evidence in 1-02-CV-809286, in which Erin provides background and description of molestation. Bates number P1128
  3. E-mail entered as evidence in 1-02-CV-809286 in which Erin Zhu states her father, Min Zhu, molested her at age fourteen. Bates number P0596
  4. E-mail entered as evidence in 1-02-CV-809286 in which Zeleny demands payment from WebEx for services rendered. Bates number P0629

As court filings all are public record. Filings 1-2 (P1116, P1128) substantiate that Erin Zhu retained the Law Offices of David Affeld to sue her father for childhood molestation. Filing 3 (P0596) confirms that she shared the story with others, namely Blixa Bargeld. Filing 4 (P0629) confirms that Zeleny pursued WebEx to settle the debt owed Erin Zhu and Zeleny (dba ptyx). This debt begat the lawsuit FeloniousMonk 17:44, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have found some evidence as to claims of molestation, but only repudiation of the specific claim of rape as made by Larvatus. There is also some question over how reliable these claims may be, given the complex personal history of the parties involved. But there is more to read yet. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 18:49, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Reliability is not at issue here. All that needs to be established is the facts of Erin Zhu's child rape and molestation allegations against Min Zhu. These facts are fully borne out by the documents at issue. In an unrelated matter, your deletion of the link to my Baudelaire site in the eponymous article smacks of a personal vendetta. If you are in a position to support your edit with substantive arguments grounded in literary scholarship, please do so. Larvatus 01:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)larvatus[reply]
One key fact about her child rape allegations is that she specifically repudiates them under oath, stating that she lied to you when she made that claim. So if it's all the same to you I'd rather you stopped using the word. As to Baudelaire, check WP:RS - by what criteria is your blog a reliable source? As you will see from my other contribs, I am very much opposed to the use of external websites to subnstitute for content which should be in WP, and alsdo very much opposed ot using WP to promote external websites, especially non-authoritative ones (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam). This is an ongoing campaign and is not at all personal. If you have published on the subject (which I do not at all discount) then please provide citations. I did not see journal publication details on the link in that article, my apologies if I missed them. I just re-checked and it was 404 anyway. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] RfA! 16:40, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, it is not all the same to me that you propose to misrepresent the evidence documented in court files that I digitized at great personal expense, pursuant to our agreement. Please honor your commitment by an accurate account of the rape allegations that Erin Zhu recited to her lawyers and presented to Min Zhu. Note also that Erin Zhu's sworn "repudiation" specifically confirms that Min Zhu sexually molested her. Your independent research of this subject will be aided by reference to the California legal definition of rape of a minor [2]. As regards my Baudelaire entries, they are based on my 1993 Harvard thesis, accorded the highest honors by Hilary Putnam and Bill Todd. If you wish to verify this information, a copy of my work is available at that institution's Pusey Library. Larvatus 20:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)larvatus[reply]

You must be using User:Jnothman's AfD helper userscript to vote on the AfD for the A&W how-to manual. I had the same problem: the user script broke on the & in A&W and made the above page. If you haven't done so already, you might want to transfer your vote to the correct A&W subpage, slap a {{db-author}} on the broken subpage, and one of us should contact User:Jnothman with a bug report... Segv11 (talk/contribs) 01:48, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed - it also breaks if there's a ' in the title :-) I did fix my vote, we should speedy the remaining page I guess. Or redirect it. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 10:26, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

stop editing biographical information[edit]

I have added BY CHOICE information about my own designing efforts. I though this was an encyclopedia for ALL information in the world? So why can't I add biography?? You got biography for Kaffe Fassett - HE is still alive so your argument of no information about living people won't stick!!!

Who better than I to add a biography about my WORK... I am not talking about hobbies, families, etc, just my WORK!!!

Nathalie Forster

Like I said on your Talk page, read WP:AUTO and WP:BIO. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 09:16, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you on this one, big time. The #1 worst person to edit biographical information is the person the bio is written about. Mike 19:21, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Re:Rfa[edit]

Thanks JzG. Yes I was careful to see those contribs too. But I would like more edits to articles. I usually would support for 2500 article edits. I might support in a few days after I have checked some of your contribs. Good to also see improvement on edit summaries. --a.n.o.n.y.m t 16:15, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, thanks. I added a complete new article today at Sidney Cotton, needs some work though - two good sources are currently on loan to my father so I'll have to get them back :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] RfA! 16:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


:D Forcing edit summaries. I'll look at things in a few days and at least comment. If I haven't before your RfA time is near an end just remind me. gren グレン ? 16:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can't say fairer than that :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] RfA! 16:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RPA[edit]

I would like any personal attack at me WP:RPAed as soon as possible. It isn't fair that a non-notable website tries to insert itself as the only link on the Traditional page, and whines for two feet of column inches. Dominick (TALK) 20:50, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It will take a while, but I will do this. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] RfA! 21:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Newbie Template[edit]

I like your idea, I will start working on it tonight. Would you mind giving me some comments on it once i get a draft done? I was a little confused, i saw your note on the AfD and said hmm there isnt anything on my talk page lol. I guess I saw it just after you wrote it! Mike 16:08, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Let's see how it turns out. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] RfA! 16:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Advertising RFA[edit]

JzG, I am happy your RFA is going so well. I recommend that you don't advertise your RFA in every post you make via your signature; especially since you have plenty of support votes already. You don't need someone voting oppose just because of advertising WP:GRFA#What_RfA_contributors_look_for_and_hope_not_to_see. Cheers Quarl (talk) 2006-01-11 19:38Z</span

See? Clueless newbieism all over the place! Sorting it now. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 19:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I came here to complain about your wild deletionist vandalism, and saw your RfA. I was glad to get a chance to voice my "ultra-oppose with fuzzy slippers and a salami codpiece" opinion! But then I saw that you had recomended "keep" on a list, so I changed my mind. - brenneman(t)(c) 23:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'll change my vote immediately - mustn't disappoint my fanclub :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 11:12, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Brennerman's in your fanclub??? that's it, I'm taking my Support vote back! ++Lar: t/c 19:20, 15 January 2006 (UTC) (PS I just came here to say that I'm glad to see you decided to run at last... I think you'll make a great admin! this seemed the best place to hang that remark...)[reply]

Hi there. Given your involvement in this, I thought'd you'd like to know that it has been userfied to User:CyclePat/Gallery of motorized bicycles. I have given clear warnings against recreation on enwiki, and removed two unfree images from it in the process. -Splashtalk 21:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. I can't say much without risking something which could be construed as a personal attack, which would be unfortunate as I actually like Pat even though he drives me round the twist. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 21:40, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On that note, I'm worried about the copyright status of several images you have uploaded. An example is Image:Whizzer-motorised-bike.jpg, where you say that no rights have been explicitly reserved, claim fair-use but then tag it was an "irrevocably released" tag. You do not have to assert your copyright rights in US law for them to exist and be enforceable anyway, and you certainly don't irrevocably release them just by not asserting them. I think you need to go through them all ('fraid so) and use {{fair use in|article}} and give a fair-use rationale for each image, such as that at Image:Eric Thomas.jpg. (If you really don't want to do that, then at least use {{fair use}}). Thanks. -Splashtalk 21:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I take it that you have removed the "coal bicycle" then? ;-) The tags I chose were from the wizard, the best I could find to fit. Status is as I stated it; if anyone disputes it with good reason - either to recategorise or to delete the images - I won't argue. I will review the images I uploaded, as you suggest. Some, of course are beyond reproach - I'll leave you to work out which. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 21:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to go through your upload list, I just found several that needed fixing and wanted to point them out. I believe there were some that you had taken yourself, and are thus "beyond reproach". I haven't removed anything from anywhere, apart from the PD tags from a couple that were very clearly not PD. All you need to do is replace the "irrevocably released" tag with a {{fair use}} tag, if that's what you're actually asserting. Or, preferably, as I said, a {{fair use in|article}} tag. -Splashtalk 22:07, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to the ones on my user page, which are: my car, and my bike, with me riding it. OK, a lame joke. The ones in Brompton Bicycle are also my own bike. Anyway, see the image you noted, is that OK now, do you think? Incidentally, I do appreciate it really. I'm in the middle of the WebEx and Min Zhu crap, not in a good frame of mind, sorry I snapped a bit. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 22:11, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's an excellent fair use rationale. If you plan to reasonably (and, preferably, provably) claim that the image has been produced for promotional purposes, you might review the text of {{promotional}} which may save you much typing. The particular images I spotted were the ones in Motorized bicycle, where I think you also need to replace the very old image with one of the PD tags, probably {{PD-art-life-50}}. -Splashtalk 22:23, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So many templates, so little time :-) Do admins have to know all this stuff? If so it looks like I might be headed for a steep learning curve, with the tally at 69/0/2... - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 22:29, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the image tagging thing is pretty confusing. You'll pick it up as you go. Shortly after you first irreversibly delete an image, as a rule, and that little orange bar lights up....More seriously, you can spend some time reading about Wikipedia:Fair use and its links which is quite instructive. -Splashtalk 22:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

did you want this picture in Motorized bicycle[edit]

this picture is nominated for delete. Did you want it in motorized bicycle... I figured I'dd ask you because you seem to have removed it. If so why did? --CyclePat 23:02, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Motorbike2.jpg

I took it out because we'd collected together some better pictures by then, that's all. I think the current crop of images illustrates the content very well; fifteen years ago I'd have said this was representative of a homebrew conversion but these days a homebrew is much more likely to be electric. Ask at Talk:motorized bicycle, unless we've driven everyone else off with our bickering. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD?
b.t.w.: I left a comment to your reply on my user talk:cyclePat and why doesn't your signature have the time and date? --CyclePat 03:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ERP[edit]

Hi, thanks for your comment. I do a google search for each company I nominated for deletion. I do this partly to cleanup wikipedia from advertising & not notable companies, but also to test my thesis of that articles which is nominated for deletion which are open source projects, linux based or in some other form liked by that crowd are always kept while other products/companies are deleted. Advertising & notability should be treated the same way for closed-source software as for open-source projects. The deletion of 24SevenOffice is a perfect example of this, there are many less notable articles on Wikipedia but they are kept just because they are open source projects. --Sleepyhead 12:55, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't assume otherwise. If you included the results in the nominations you'd be doing everyone a favour (including yoruself). I am no lover of spam (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam for some like-minded souls), and you'll see I'm mostly backing your nominations, all I'm saying is tread carefully and for preference write more detailed nominations. The more detail in the nomination the more popular you will be among other AfD followers. I absolutely encourage you in purging the 'pedia of vanispamcruftisement. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 13:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly, people are actually paid to put spam onto Wikipedia now. Every small company with a PR budget is telling their agency 'get us on wikipedia'. This problem will only get worse. --kingboyk 11:16, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lists[edit]

Hi. I was wondering if you know of any Wikipedia policy about lists. I can't really grasp why any 'List of...' article is allowed. MediaWiki has categories, and the category pages are dynamically updated. Furthermore, a category page can have introductory text meaning it can easily replace any 'List of...' article. In terms of maximising our usage of the technology lists seem to me to be totally pointless. I'm asking you because I've seen you comment on 'listcruft'. --kingboyk 11:19, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You may be asking the wrong person - I think almost all liusts should be deleted :-) Wikipedia:Lists is clearly pro-list, but somewhere about there is a document which says "do not create lists with very large numbers of potential entries" or some such. Wikipedia:Lists (stand-alone lists) has some guidance, too. - JzG 12:47, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that was the kind of thing I was looking for. You're right it's very pro-list. Anyway, I've taken my comment over there. Cheers! --kingboyk 13:49, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How about this one? List of songs with a color word(s) in their names. I was going to AFD but it's quite actively edited so I'll pass. --kingboyk 21:14, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have not the words! AfD it before it spreads! - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 21:34, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you![edit]

Thanks for supporting me on my Rfa, Guy! I hope I will continue to meet your standards of "sound judgment and open mind." The puppy is now an Admin (final tally 58/7/2) Please let me know if there is anything I can ever do to assist you. KillerChihuahua?!? 17:45, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hurrah! I might have those extra tools myself soon, voting on mine currently stands at 80/1/1 :-) Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 17:47, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I already voted, but with those numbers you are an easy shoe-in. It restores my faith in the wisdom of the community at large. KillerChihuahua?!? 18:24, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I left a message for you on the talk:motorized bicycle page. --CyclePat 02:20, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation[edit]

please see Wikipedia:Requests for mediation --CyclePat 04:44, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

175% fashist support[edit]

I left my comment on you adminship request. Sorry. But I have to many questions I need answered. I know you will be able to answer those question. These may be difficult questions. And I figured you might enjoy them, but please relise I though about them for a while. I think if you answer them I may be able to give you my 175% fashist support. --CyclePat 06:56, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm impressed with your feedback and proffesionalism. :) I'm reading through your comments and will leave some feedback here. Thank you and I believe you are on your way to become a top gun administrator. --CyclePat 22:06, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I do my best, Pat, whether or not people recognise it at the time :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 22:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Articles For Deletion[edit]

Hi, one or both of the following situations applies to you, and you may therefore be interested in related discussions.

You may also be interested in a discussion of whether or not the entire text of a whole bible chapter should be contained in the 6 articles concerning those specific chapters, and whether or not they should only use the translations favoured by fundamentalists. This is being discussed at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Whole bible chapter text.

--Victim of signature fascism | Don't forget to vote in the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee elections 17:53, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks, I'll be right along. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 18:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Beware AAPL(NASDAQ)[edit]

There's something brewing with User:DeveloperFrom1983. I'd let it work itself out before making any changes to AAPL(NASDAQ). See User_talk:Essjay#hello for a little more info. Ewlyahoocom 12:30, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Berumen[edit]

Not sure what was POV about that paragraph you deleted. One of the few things we *do* know about this book is that its publication was self-funded - that is a fact, not point of view - and it also a fact that the book has not garnered significant notice - if you don't believe me, why don't you look for mention of it on the web (other than Wikipedia-related mention and mentions on the author's own blog). To my mind, if the article is to stay at all (I'm firmly of the view it should be deleted) then that sentence is important to prevent people being misled into thinking the book is more publicly notable than it actually is.ElectricRay 14:47, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem saying that it's self-published if that's proven from reliable sources, "to date it has not attained significant public or academic notice" needs citation or can simply be left out as unnecessary editorialising. Not all self-published books are trivial, see for example Robert Gunther whose self-published history of early science at Oxford is widely ocnsidered one of the foremost authorities on Hook, Boyle and others. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 15:17, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We have confirmation of it's self publication from the nature of the publisher, and the two editors who actually created the article. I take your point re the editorialising: I suppose the reason I feel the need to editorialise is to flag a lack of notability/creditibility which actually ought to be cured by outright deletion: that is, any article requiring such a flag shouldn't be on the site at all. ElectricRay 16:56, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the editorialising should indeed be at the inclusion level :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 17:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Try standing for adminship with that on your platform and see how far you get :-) - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 14:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC)"

  • What?? I think any good admin should be able to judge when to speedy and when to AfD. Please clarify. —gorgan_almighty 16:19, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Admins who do not take a fairly conservative view of when to speedy are unlikely to pass RFA. Speedy deletion is, as you know, open to abuse, and is unpopular with inclusionists :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 16:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • And as you know my comments were made relating to an article that was clearly ad spam. I would not condone speedy deletions for any other purpose. If the contents of that article were placed on another semi-related article they would be instantly reverted as ad spam, you wouldn't go through an AfD type process to remove it. The same should also happen if a seperate article is created for the ad spam. The number of obvious ad spam AfD's are making the whole AfD system unmanagable IMHO. —gorgan_almighty 17:39, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, I know. The problem is that my (fairly extensive) experience on AfD shows that a minority of articles which start as adspam - vanispamcruftisement to give the technical term ;-) - are actually valid corporations and get saved, cleaned up and turned into decent articles. You want me boiled in oil for deleting one of those on my first day as an admin? :-P
Also, this week it's adspam, last month it was band vanity. Who knows what next. No doubt there will be debate about adding nn-company to the speedy criteria but it isn't yet. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 18:21, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Legislative candidates[edit]

Hi,

It doesn't look like there will ever be a resolution to the legislative candidates discussion. After looking at some articles on Canadian candidates, I've come to see your point. A lot of the Canadian candidates have virtually nothing about them online except their own bios, no political experience and no opinions of their own beyond their party's platform. If you look at what I said under "Reviving the discussion," you can see that I've based the idea on your counter-proposal, with the main difference being that I would allow for the creation of an article on the candidate after enough independent, verifiable information is gathered to create an article beyond stub size. What do you think? -- Mwalcoff 00:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think I replied over there, let me know if I have not addressed the point properly. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 15:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, could you then clarify your position on my second proposal? I think the only significant difference between my second proposal and your counter proposal is that mine allows for the creation of articles on candidates if there's enough on them and they meet the standards of verifiability. -- Mwalcoff 23:07, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ultimate destiny?[edit]

I didn't do anything to Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny but I saw it on Newgrounds and I wanted to know more about it. I think that is what Wikipedia is for. And since it is not a paper encyclopedia, we should keep it. I would like it to be reverted back because I believe it is a somewhat worthy article. schyler 01:36, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We have Ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny which redirects to Neil Cicierega. I don't know what else we are supposed to have, have I done something? You'll have to remind me, I have a few thousand articles on my watchlist and I am a bear of very little brain :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 09:22, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

York@54[edit]

Cheers, done the move, now the deleted edits need to be restored as per step 4 of Wikipedia:How to rename (move) a page#Fixing cut and paste moves. – MrWeeble Talk Brit tv 14:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC) That's ok, seems a bloody confusing way of doing it to me, oh well. Thanks. MrWeeble Talk Brit tv 15:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Why not just move it in the first place? - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 15:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

neutrality[edit]

the phrase "certifying the basis for this dispute" is not really stated clearly. what it has always meant in practice is that you endorse the RFC. in other words, you have personally tried to resolve the dispute and you think the unresolved dispute merits an RFC. i urge you to decertify, if you think it's really a baseless charge. otherwise, probably a hundred people are going to waste their time looking through it, as neutrality is well-known. regards, Derex 23:12, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Holy crap! We do not need that! heading right over... - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 23:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I've expanded this company's stub, and if you get a chance, I'd like to ask you to revisit your nomination on WP:AFD.-Colin Kimbrell 16:42, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I have voted - actually I only AfDd it becasue it was speedy tagged with an invalid criterion, so my usual action is to list at AfD. When I'm a bit more confident with these admin powers I'll probably not bother AfDing, but it does mean there is no ambiguity, a strong keep consensus should stave off any future speedy tags. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 16:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with that approach. It's better to bend over backwards on protocol for deletion, so that everything's clear and above-board. Also, congrats on the RFA; sorry I missed seeing your nom. -Colin Kimbrell 18:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I cluelessly advertised it a bit, and got stamped on (rightly) so after that I kept it quiet :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 18:04, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that's quite a "contribution" history :\. What I'd do is use the spam template warnings (i.e. Template:spam) a couple times - once you've warned him once or twice and he does it again the usual block time for linkspam is 48 hours (I don't particularily know who invented this, you are free to use your own time judgement too...). WhiteNight T | @ | C 17:00, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, either the spam warnings or maybe a custom one if it isn't his blog in particular (just make sure there is ample warning) :) WhiteNight T | @ | C 17:02, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, warned now. I used {{subst:spam2}}, I doubt that will have much effect, and to be honest no block would hurt the 'pedia since he has contributed virtually nothign other than spam :-( - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 17:11, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a month, I think. I'm thinking I would like to try relisting this on WP:AfD, but I'm not totally sure on how you relist something, the 3 step process is a bit vague on what name the second subpage should have, is it just 2 on the end? If not, do you think you might be able to remind me how? I am willing to be the lister. Or, do you think waiting a bit longer is the way to go. That article just has to go, in my view (I work in the industry, at least part of the time)... Thoughts? (I'll watch here for reply) ++Lar: t/c 02:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of SWIFT codes (Second nomination) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 12:50, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Funhogger!!! I actually wanted to do it, was just asking about how to get the second nom part right. But the deed is done and it seems off to a good start this time. ++Lar: t/c 16:20, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's not so hard; you add {{subst:afdx|Second}} to the article, {{subst:afd2|pg=pagename|text=text}} to the AD itself, then {{subst:afd3|pg=pagename (Second nomination)}} in the AfD list for the day - the afd3 template links to [[Wikipedia:articles for deletion/{{{{pg}}}}]], which is why you use the title of the AfD page (including the bit in brackets). Easy when you know how :-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 16:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right.[edit]

It was very poor.</NPAviolation> --SarekOfVulcan 22:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


mistaken deletion of image[edit]

Hi, I think you mistakenly deleted Image:MixedBreedFace1 wb.jpg when cleaning up that hoax. - This image isn't a hoax, This is a good and properly licensed imaged, uploaded by an administrator, and the dog has real titles :) - It's used on the hybrid vigor article dog page (featured article), and many others, as well as in the dog stub tempates and such - hundreds of pages link to this one. I restored the image from a wikimirror - just thought I would let you know. - Trysha (talk) 00:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! Sorry. You know, I was told that would happen :-D I thought I'd checked "what links here" - I ownder what went wrong? Never mind, thanks for fixing my cock-up. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 12:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is ok, Not a problem at all :) - Trysha (talk) 06:52, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I've moved this to the correct namespace (you spelt "Wikiepdia" wrong :) — sjorford (talk) 16:01, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thnak yuo ;-) - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 16:12, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Advice[edit]

Hi, would you please look at James Kisina for me? This guy was until yesterday pretty much unknown. He's just been arrested on a drugs charge in Australia, which has catapulted his name into the news - not because the case is extraordinary but because his sister is Schapelle Corby, a very famous Australian-in-prison-overseas. Do you think Kisina's article should stay?

I would boldly merge the two, and if anyone objects suggest that it be taken to DRV (or ask me). I can't see any sense in keeping that article, it really is trivia. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 00:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might also want to have a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jezchat, a very bad website article which doesn't have many comments yet. --kingboyk 22:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh! It's also apparently 404 much of the time. But we must not stack those votes. Perhaps I had better review the current crop at AfD... - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 00:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for the advice. --kingboyk 00:10, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]