User talk:K-Drone

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Proposed deletion of ConTemporal[edit]

The article ConTemporal has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

unsourced and google does not shed any light on its existence

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Speedy deletion nomination of ConTemporal[edit]

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A tag has been placed on ConTemporal, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

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What do I need to do to get ConTemporal added (and treated accordingly) as a science fiction convention ?[edit]

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...because that's what we are. :) Thanks! K-Drone (talk) 15:30, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, please read WP:conflict of interest. In order for an article to exist, there needs to be independent WP:reliable sources to establish WP:notability. From the article and from my searches on google that does not exist. noq (talk) 15:48, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

I have tried to remove any COI- or biased-sounding language from the article; mainly I was cited with using 'we.' I have asked others to contribute also; we all confirm that we do not show up on Google yet, and some of our folks are registering there. Please do not delete the article, as I believe it cen be made meritworthy in the same way as StellarCon and other sci-fi cons on wikipedia. K-Drone (talk) 16:08, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Things that you get added to google will not help in establishing notability. As stated previously, you need to show WP:notability with independent WP:reliable sources. If there is nothing there at the moment there is no notability. If independent reliable sources appear in the future then the article could be recreated but I would urge you not to do that yourself. Let others create it when and if it becomes notable.noq (talk) 16:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

K-Drone, Noq has given you some sound advice here. There was no importance asserted in the article, which is why it was ultimately deleted, and as an involved party you should not be creating the article yourself. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 16:29, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To expand on that a bit: the point is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a notice-board for announcing events. It's not enough that something exists: article subjects have to have notability, which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people independent of the subject thought it important and significant enough to write substantial comment about? More detail at WP:CORP and WP:BFAQ. JohnCD (talk) 16:39, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]