User talk:King of the North East/Archive1

Kermit

Have you any thoughts about Kermit Paint Factory? I am concerned that it might be an hoax since it gets zero Google hits. The author of the article claims here to have references but has not given any. -- RHaworth 15:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I've never written on anyone elses talk before so I hope I dont balls it up!

I lived in Pudsey for a while, no Idea if the paint factory is real, a bit before my time I'm afraid. I could probably find out if I got some addresses for the factories. Several hundred jobs sounds a little dubious though.

On a completely different topic, do you know how I can make the map to put in the '{{infobox with map}}'? I cant figure it out. And another thing, do you know any good sites to find uncopyrighted photos?

King of the North East 23:30 11 July 2006

You did not balls it up - your message on my talk page was perfectly OK but I have brought it here cos I like to keep the thread together. But did you sign your comment with ~~~~ ?

Maps. What I usually do is find a dotty map for another place within 10 or 15 km and then use it either in {{GBmap}}, eg. Kettleshulme or {{Infobox England place}}, eg. Ulverston. Category:GBdot contains a list of all the dotty maps. There is a generic template:GBthumb which lets you put the dot anywhere but I find it too messy to use (and I created it!). And I've just noticed a new version of that, described in Template talk:Infobox England place and used in eg. Bolton-le-Sands.

Uncopyrighted photos. You can search the photo sharing sites such as flickr, multiply or fotopic (note fotopic is in Wakefield) for ones with an appropriate licence but it may be a long search. All images on geograph are on a licence that allows Wikipedia to use them - please upload them to the Commons and put a proper {{geograph}} tag on them. -- RHaworth 00:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Unblock Me Please

I was in the middle of making a table of Listed buildings in Leeds, I accidentally put it into Category:Category:Listed Buildings in Leeds, (a category I created and populated) when I meant to put it into Listed buildings in Leeds so I cut and pasted it from one to the other and got barred.

I am fairly new to wikipedia so i didnt know that deleting my own work would be considered as a crime against the system.

I have contacted the administrator responsible, (User:DragonflySixtyseven) but have had no response.

You got no response because of timezones. I live in Montreal, and I just woke up 20 minutes ago. I concede that the block was in error; I'll fix that. DS 11:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Im sure that you do a lot of good work stopping vandals and hoaxers, but I hope you will try to avoid blocking inexperienced wikipedans in future as it is very discouraging to be blocked. Especially after all the time I've spent researching and contributing over the last couple of weeks, not to mention all the grief I've suffered from my wife who thinks its a big waste of time.

cheers for the unblock

-King of the North East 11:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

• I'm sorry you feel put upon but a large chunk of wikipedia content was deleted by an anonymous user who did not leave an edit summary. This is a frequent type of vandalism here, and I'm not surprised the IP was blocked. A warning would have been appropriate, but on the other hand the original block was only for an hour (trying to edit afterward probably trigged a 24 hour autoblock). The IPs used by logged-in editors are concealed per the privacy policy, so there's no way any admin could know in advance that the anonymous IP doing the page blanking was a legitimate user who had accidentally been logged out. It would have helped if you were a consistent user of edit summaries. That's a very important way of letting people know what you are doing and why. For example, if you had originally left a summary "adding list of place names to help populate category" (as King of the NE) and then "removing list, looks ugly, need to reformat" or something, it would have looked more like a productive edit and less like vandalism, and might have even given a clue that the same user was still working on the category. At the very least, an informative edit summary would have made the change look less like page blank vandalism. I have added an infobox below about the edit summaries, please use them in the future and it may help avoid future problems like this. Hope this helps in the future. Thatcher131 12:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you.

Praise

All hail his majesty, King of the North East! And equal hail to his wife, the not-quite-so-interested Queen.

I've read through more of your contributions, and I am very impressed. You've added quite a lot of good information, filling in the gaps: these are small articles, but no less valid and useful for that. I've done some minor touchups to a few of them (punctuation, spelling).

I'd like to repeat my apologies for getting you caught up in the anti-vandal skirmishes; as you surmised, they are indeed constant. Remember, edit summaries help us figure out what you're doing.

Keep up the good work, eh? DS 13:00, 13 July 2006

Flickr

Hey there. Those photos you uploaded, the ones that you tagged as coming from Flickr? There may be a problem with their copyrights. Not everything on Flickr is released under Creative Commons... and even if those two are free under CC, we need to know the exact URLs of where you got them from.

Thanks. DS 23:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Throughbred racing project

A number of Wikipedians have come together and formed the WikiProject Throughbred racing to help to expand and better organise information in articles and categories related to the sport of thoroughbred racing. As a past contributor to horse racing articles, we invite you to consider becoming a participant in the project, and/or adding the page to your watchlist so that you become aware, and can join any future horse racing discussions, which may be of interest to you. Regards - Cuddy Wifter 02:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Deportivo Español

I've seen you created a lot of Argentine lower division teams; would you care to create an articule also for Deportivo Español? Good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 11:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

thanks! Mariano(t/c) 08:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm

Oh, hey. I was just thinking about you the other day. Give me a few minutes to look into this, I'll see what I can do. DS 18:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• Okay, the article's been restored. DS 18:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• • And by the way - you're doing an excellent job. Keep up the good work, sir. DS 12:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• Cheers for fixing it, did you find out why it dissapeared?

• • And thanks for the compliment.

Argentine Football

Glad you're updating so many articles with quality information. Way to go. elpincha 21:21, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Cheers mate King of the North East 21:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks for adding to my boyfriend's page! I just did it randomly today (my first one) and was so excited that someone had added something! Thanks so much!  :)

Argentine Geography

• Great work on adding info on Buenos Aires partidos. I started most of them but they needed filling. Practically all the other districts of Argentina are not really covered. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

• • Cheers for the compliment, its good to know that my hobby is appreciated by someone.I'm debating which province to do when I've finally finished with BsAs, probably Córdoba, Mendoza or Santa Fe.King of the North East 21:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Hi mate have a look at General Alvear Department. I thought this was in Mendzova province or whatever it is called not Buenos Aires. You have very capably completed all of the partidos but you have forgotten to delete the navigation box and the category. Mendova province should have a navigation box of its own if not it can be easily created. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:01, 8 November 2006 (UTC) I have solved it for you and put in the correct box. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC) Good luck
  • Cheers for pointing out the mistake and fixing it, as you can see I had created the nav box and cat, just forgot to change them. I tend to edit in stages as my computer has a nasty habit of crashing (normally 3 or 4 times a day) and destroying all my unsaved work.

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Hail, King! Great job with the partidos. I see you're attacking other provinces; By the way, only Buenos Aires has PArtidos, the provinces have Departamentos. Probably Córdoba Province and Santa Fe Province are the most importnat after Buenos Aires, I suggest you start there. From there on, you can follow down the population size of the provinces: Mendoza Province, Tucumán Province, Entre Ríos Province, Salta Province, Chaco Province, Misiones Province, etc. Take care, and keep up the tireless work! Mariano(t/c) 08:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• Yeah, I was thinking about doing Cordoba, but it has 428 Departamentos, many of them with insignificant populations (below 200), Santa Fe has 363 Depts. So I'm doing Mendoza which has a population of 1.5m, spread between 18 Depts. As for Cordoba and Santa Fe, I'll get round to doing the Nav Boxes, and I'll do the Depts with more than 2,500 or something.

King of the North East 09:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Again on General Alvear, Besides General Alvear Department, Mendoza, there is a General Alvear Department, Corrientes in Corrientes Province, and the General Alvear Partido in Buenos Aires Province. The head cities in those are General Alvear, Mendoza, Alvear, Corrientes, and General Alvear, Buenos Aires. Check Departments of Argentina for a list of duplicate departments' names. Mariano(t/c) 09:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Cheers for moving it to a better name, I had a look through Mendoza and changed Lavalle Department, Mendoza and Rivadavia Department, Mendoza too. King of the North East 11:07, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

No problemo. Just in case: moving to a name that already (say, as a redirect) exists should be done by first deleting the target article, and then moving the article to that title. But to delete articles you need to be an Administrator, so if you find yourself in such situation, just contact me, or even ask me to do the moving for you. Good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 09:40, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Reversions

Hey, good to hear from you again. As for reverting vandalism - there's three ways to do to it. The speedy way, "rollback", is indeed only accessible to administrators. However, ordinary users are able to revert vandalism by just editing it out: you can either edit it out manually, or go into the article history, select the last unvandalised version, and save that one as the new version. That will trigger a warning message asking you if you really mean to do that - but that is what you mean to do. Got it?

(As for the Matthew Murray article, when I looked at it to see what the problem was, I fixed it for you.) DS 23:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

• I think Ill just edit it out next time I spot any as to avoid breaking the continuity of the article history, bit I'm still afraid of incurring the wrath of some lunatic. Take care, King of the North East 23:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Enzo Nicolas Peréz

Was your latest Argentine footballer born in 1986 or 1979? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 10:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

• Goal.com and BDFA claim 22/02/1986 as his D.O.B. Why do you ask? Is there another source claiming 1979?

King of the North East 10:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

• • Oh,I see, My mistake,I fixed it ;)

Re:Argentine footballers

It does sound like a good idea, but there are some very susceptible people here that don't like that kind of superfluous categories. I suggest you propose it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football's talk page. I also suggest you to propouse the alternative of articles, such as List of Argentine football (soccer) players who played in Italian first division, List of Argentine footballers in La Liga, or watherver the title would be; you might be luckier with those than with the categories. Mariano(t/c) 11:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about your proposal. Nevertheless, List of Argentine footballers aborad looks good enough, right? About the vandal; get use to reverting vandalism. I'm not currently wiking very often (moving back to Argentina), but if I get the user with dirty hand, I will block him for a few days; he has been already warned. Mariano(t/c) 16:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Missing Argentine films

I would love it if you could help out on missing Argentine films Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/List of films without article/List of missing Argentine Films. A very major important part of Argentina culture is missing. I would be grateful if you and other wikipeidans who know could help sub project Wikiproject:Argentine films in this. If you are unaware of how to create film articles use Agua (2006 film) as an example and retrive info from the external link showm. I will give you any instruction you need. I have seen you have dpone a brilliant job on brazilian footie players and distrcits. THis is a major missing part of wikipedia. I would be very grateful indeed if you any other users wyou know could help it Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Football Barnstar
		For your constant contributions to South American football related articles (Argentine football particularly), I hereby award you the Football Barnstar. Bruno18 07:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Category sorting

If you are going to add categories to articles such as Gastón Fernández, please add the proper indexing keys so that they sort properly. See my fix of this example. Gene Nygaard 09:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Made up player on Spanish Wikipedia

Great job!
These are really hard to spot. I wonder how nobody realized about it in es:.
I reporteded it and hope it will be destroyed soon enough.

Take care, Mariano(t/c) 12:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

re: Category:Date of birth missing

Good evening. Per the discussion about privacy concerns expressed at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of birthdays, date of birth should generally not be added to the biographies of living non-public or semi-public figures. So far, that policy has been interpreted fairly strictly with a pretty high bar being set for the definition of "public figures" who are assumed to have given up their rights to privacy.

By the same token, we should not be adding Category:Date of birth missing to articles unless we have made the case that the person meets the "public figures" threshold. Otherwise, we're just baiting new users into adding content even though the community has already said that we shouldn't include that particular data point. Category:Year of birth missing is okay but the exact date is often not. Thanks for your help. Rossami (talk) 23:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Ortiz without the accent

Could you change the footballer's name to Fernando Ortiz, without the accent? Thnks. elpincha 22:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

That was fast! Thank you! (The rule... when "iz" is the last syllable and is accented, the accent is not written, e.g. Ortiz, as opposed to "ís" as in Solís... the only consonants taking accents in this situation are S and N, with maybe a very small number of exceptions meant to disambiguate... when the accent falls in the next-to-last syllable, the rule is reverted) elpincha 13:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Historias mínimas

Enormously!!!! grateful someone else from Wikiproject Argentina has added a film!!! Things are going super now see Category:Argentine films!! Remember to put the film and wikiproject argentina tag in the talk page though. That article is on spanish wikipedia too I think

THis template

goes at the bottom of all cinema articles. Excellent stub too! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Fee free to loosely join the sub project Wikipedia:WikiProject Argentina/Cinema of Argentina I recently set up. What do you think of it? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:21, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

• I think you're doing a great job, I wish I could do more to help, but Argentine films are particularly difficult to find in the UK. Most of the ones I have seen already have articles, I wouldnt really feel comfortable writing about films I havnt seen, but I am endeavouring to watch more.

Beleive me I appeciate any new films that anybody starts from Argentina!!!! I remember working with you on those partidos before and know you always do a superb job on wikipedia. I am currently compiling the entire Cinema chronolgy of Argentina see List of Argentine films which is going well and have started key actors and direcotrs such as Roberto Escalada Hugo del Carril etc. I saw a shameful gap in knowledge in this area so am doing something about it!!! A-Z of missing films click here and you will see how much is missing! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Please remember though to add an external link or source e.g for your doctor and please add the project tags in the talk pages. Thanks Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:41, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Avellaneda

Have you seen this: [1]-[2]? I think the merge should be rolled back. --Mariano(t/c) 15:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

• Yeah I saw it, I was going to ask you about it after I finished work, which I have now. I think there is a clear ditinction between Avellaneda and Avellaneda Partido, I also think deleting my admittedly limited stub on Sarandí and replacing it with a redirect to Avellaneda was uncalled for. I mean Sarandi has a population of 60,000 how can it not merit an article in its own right.

• I accept that the Avellaneda and Sarandi stubs were limited, but that is why they were stubs, so they could be expanded later. Turning them into redirects reduces the probability that they would ever be expanded.

• If you roll them back you will have my full support.

• Regards,King of the North East 19:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Should we take it to talk:Avellaneda not to make the mistake of not asking before acting? I'll do it.--Mariano(t/c) 19:43, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

• Personally I would restore the articles, since they were removed without consultation, and then request that any future changes be discussed first. I believe that it is Wikipedia policy to propose substantial changes before making them, not simply to defend them afterwards. Replacing a page with a redirect is about as substantial as you can get without deleting the article completely.King of the North East 19:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Blocking...

I'm affraid I can only block users that have vandalised after warning (one or two warnings, deppending on the severity and obviety of the offence).--Mariano(t/c) 11:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		You totally deserve this for your contributions to football and places in Argentina and England! Number 57 22:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Alfredo Astiz photo

Would it be possible to re-add the photo again? It somehow disappeared. If there are copyright objections it can be reasonable argued that there's little to no chance to get a public domain photo (and that being more popish than a pope doesn't help very much). Pavel Vozenilek 12:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Normanby & Marton junior football team

Hi. Like a good WikiProject Football editor, I went along to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Normanby_&_Marton_junior_football_team to put in my twopennorth, but it appears to be an incomplete AfD page. Have you completed all the stages required for AfD as yet? Having viewed the article, I'd like to get it binned as soon as possible. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 23:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I was going to say the same thing - next time, please follow the step-by-step directions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list pages for deletion. Cheers, happy editing. --Ytny (talk) 04:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

And binned anyway, by the looks of it! Ref ^(chew)(do) 19:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Image copyvio

I've tagged Image:Egglestone abbey.jpg and Image:Egglestone abbey 2.jpg for speedy deletion due to copyright violations. As you indicated when you uploaded the images, the photos are flickr - however they are listed by the two flickr users as "all rights reserved" and are therefore not compatible with Wikipedia licensing requirements. If you are the copyright holder or have gained hte copyright holders permission then please indicate this on the image page and change the license and description accordingly. Madmedea 20:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

• A choice of four images which we are allowed to copy can be found at NZ0615 on geograph. Please upload them to the Commons and put {{geograph}} on them. -- RHaworth 05:57, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
• I'm on it. Madmedea 09:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Revert on Deportivo Madryn

Sorry, man. I was trying to rollback the spam, and I ended up reverting your revertion!! Sorry again, and good wiking. --Mariano(t/c) 11:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

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HELLO

YOU ARE A GREAT MAN!

FROM ARGENTINA

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Derry City F.C./archive2

Would you be willing to add your support to the nomination of Derry City F.C. for FA status? Cheers. Danny Invincible^Talk|Edits 18:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

San Lorenzo

I've seen you've been working a lot on articles related to San Lorenzo; you've put some money on them for the Championship? I know we are toughly fighting on both fronts, but don't underestimate Boquita!! ;o) --Mariano(t/c) 20:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:Dodgy players

I found very little on the players.

Buzzi seams to be part of the first team, but I only got an August 2006 article that says he signed for Leida for 2 years, and that the coach was giving him minutes during the pre-season ([3] in Catalan), and then a February 2007 article that says he was loaned from Leida to L'Hospi, in which team he is not a fix starter [no es titular indiscutible] ([4] in Spanish). Can that be considered to mean that he did at least once play in the first team?

Falco is from River (not Argentinos as in the article), and did not debute in Argentina. For Lleida, he signed at the beggining of the year, and was intended to be loaned to a third division team to shape him up. ([5] in Spanish)

They hold little importance in any case; see yourself if they can be proposed for deletion or not (I personally don't consider such players as Encyclopedia material anyway). You could also contact the original author (User talk:Scaufape; though [s]he doesn't seam to connect that often.

BTW, you're doing a really wonderful job.

--Mariano(t/c) 12:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Category:People from Tucumán

Gone. --Mariano(t/c) 11:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		I, Mxcatania, award you this barnstar for your contributions about Argentina. You have helped to bring knowledge to the world in the spirit of Wikipedia.

hi

Do you live in northeast england? The sunder king 16:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Just wondering by your name, I live in sunderland :). The sunder king 16:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Nick Gindre Juan Manuel Buzzi and Daniel Hernán Falco

Hi I had a very quick look at each of the articles, none of which have much in the way of information to say the least! I will though check further and let you know, and if appropriate I am sure we can get them up for deletion. Cheers have fun! ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 23:44, 18 July 2007 (UTC) Hey there! I finally got round to it and you have beaten me to it with adding the tags! At least they have been added now though! ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 00:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Argentinians to Benfica

Hi KING OF NE!!! THIS IS USER 217.129.67.28 (Real name VASCO from PORTUGAL),

Thought those were confirmed by BENFICA (DI MARIA AND ANDRES DIAZ), i see they are not, thanks for that remark man, see you around!!

GREETINGS, VASCO

Red links

Hey apologies about changing all the players names from red links, I got carried away with my editing of the article and saw red!! Perhaps I shouldn't edit when I am so tired1 Though obviously many of the players could do with articles being created for them! Cheers! ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 22:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, yes I would definitely be willing to join, and more importanly work with others on, an Argentine football project. After all there are projects for Ireland and English non-league football. Let me know where it is brought up and I can back the idea up, cheers. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 22:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)