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Kireadsalot

First edit, "at Challakere 200km away from Bengaluru in the district of Chitradurga in Karnataka." Non controversial and factual. Lets see what happens. Kireadsalot (talk) 09:10, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Vanessa Marcotte

Hello Kireadsalot,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Vanessa Marcotte for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Kavdiamanju (talk) 20:05, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello Kireadsalot -- thanks for your note about the above article. Notability for murder victims is always a tricky issue; they tend to receive a lot of news coverage at the time (cynically, especially if they are beautiful young women) but it generally fades. There are a great many murders every year, perhaps half a million, and only a tiny fraction are of any lasting encyclopedic value. Such articles often end up as a memorial to the deceased, which is against Wikipedia's policy. Per WP:VICTIM: victims should only have an article if they "had a large role within a well-documented historic event. The historic significance is indicated by persistent coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources that devote significant attention to the individual's role. Example: Matthew Shepard." Unfortunately this is very hard to assess only a few months after the victim's death, and yet another policy prohibits predicting the future. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 07:35, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Want to help shape the future of the Wikipedia editing experience?

Hi Kireadsalot,

The Design Research team at the Wikimedia Foundation is currently seeking relatively newcomer Wikipedians for user studies about their experience with current editing tools and to test out some prototype editing tools. If you’re interested in helping to shape the future of editing on Wikipedia, we would love to have you participate! The study session will take approximately 30 minutes, maximum of 45 minutes.

The study will take place in the next couple weeks, and will require participants to have access to a webcam and microphone (or a laptop with built in cam & mic), with a quiet place to go for a research session. To participate, please email dchen[at]wikimedia.org and include the following information:

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Please let me know if you have any questions! Look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

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User Experience Researcher Dchen (WMF) (talk) 01:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

@ Daisy Chen,

Hi. Pleased to see your note. Thanks for considering me for the research participation.

Could you please let me know whether the session would be a video conferencing session.

Regards

Kireadsalot (talk) 05:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

@Kireadsalot: Hello! Thanks for responding. Yes, sessions will be done over Google Hangouts/Youtube Live. We'll send you a release form in which you can indicate whether you're ok with sharing the results of the session or if you would prefer to keep the session internal to the Wikimedia product team. If you have any other initial questions or concerns, feel free to ping or email me. Hope to be able to chat with you! Dchen (WMF) (talk) 06:45, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

@ Daisy Chen,

Hello! Thanks for your reply. I shall revert back to you.

Regards

Kireadsalot (talk) 06:55, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

@Kireadsalot: Look forward to hearing from you! :) Dchen (WMF) (talk) 18:04, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

@ Daisy Chen

Thanks for your interest. Sorry if didn't get back to you earlier. I was undecided.

I am sort of a private guy. No facebook pics, No WhatsApp profile pic sort of a thing. So live Video conferencing is Leagues and light years from me :] Just hope I am not being rude or offending here. Thanks for your consideration,

Sincerely

Kireadsalot (talk) 18:25, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

@Kireadsalot: Didn't get an email notification this time, sorry I didn't get back to you earlier as well! No worries. But I would like to make one more pitch... you don't have to be on camera if you don't want to. I can give you some brief instructions on how to do this if you haven't used Google Hangouts before. The only part that is important will be for you to screenshare so we can see how you interact with our test page (which will use a test account's credentials, not your own). Also, we will provide you with a release form before the session, where you can indicate if you would like your session to remain private only to Foundation staff. The Foundation (and especially our Legal team) holds privacy (of our users, research participants, everyone really) as a very important part of the way we do things.

Let me know what you think given this information. Again, feel free to ping or email with any additional concerns if you have them! Dchen (WMF) (talk) 00:45, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Household Stone tools of Karnataka

The article Household Stone tools of Karnataka has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No evidence either that any of these are peculiar to Karnataka, or that the topic as a whole satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Even the creator of the article has stated that there are no reliable references available!

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:56, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

@ JamesBWatson, Hello!

I have removed the Proposed article deletion notice. I will try and attempt to explain the difficulties and peculiarities involved,

• Hitherto till now the first option on search engines for Oralu Kallu was an article on Wikipedia which seems to be removed today. That article was 3 or 4 line and factually incorrect. The implication, I am sure you would realize that an incorrect article was itself the prime source of information to the world. The underlying significant aspect appears to be the paucity of other sources of information available online.
• The best source of information available for the world for 7 years, was a factually incorrect article, unreferenced but yet managed to survive on Wikipedia signifies the importance/relevance of the topic.
• These stone tools are vanishing and will become part of History. A mention of them on this World Encyclopedia would, to some extent serve to inform future generations about the living of passed times.
• However, I will continue my endeavor to find sources/references/back up for this article to improve upon.

Also, for further clarity, I post below my note in reply to PROD on talk page of the article,

"@ James B Watson, Hello!

I shall try to address the concerns raised,

1) No evidence that any of these are peculiar to Karnataka

As I have noted on the talk page, there are almost NIL evidence any which way available online. But the stone tools were/are a daily reality. I have tried hard researching online for referencing even before the articles creation, but without success. Documenting these articles preserves a piece of the vanishing history. The articles were part of every household(some still are) without which, as you can imagine cooking would have been impossible! As regards to Karnataka in the Title page, I did consider India/Southern India earlier. But, that would be unbacked and far too generalized claim . By adding Karnataka, at the least I was certain of the daily reality of the region. Would changing 'of' to 'in' the title from 'Household Stone tools of Karnataka' to 'Household Stone tools in Karnataka' be of any help for better clarity? Please advise.

2) Concerns that the topic as a whole satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. A page 'Oralu Kallu' had existed since 2009 for 7 years, which now seems to have been removed? That page was the number one link from any search engine on the topic. For better understanding the reason for creation, I add below my initial comments at the time of creating the article,

"I have created a new web page without any references. Heres why, I happened to come across a page titled Oralu Kallu. It was created in 2009. Last modified was in 2015. Till now it didn't have any references. I looked for references. There are none reliable and accurate till now. But it has managed to survived till now. I corrected and enlarged that page. I grouped similar tools on that page and tried to rename it with a broader name. I was unable to do so. Later I deleted the expanded information that I had contributed myself and created this new page with it. As before, no reliable references for this are available online now too!! Could you please create a redirect from Oralu Kallu page to this article's page?"

Hope I have addressed the concerns raised by you. I look forward to improve the article, will try even more researching to better it.

Regards"

Sincerely

--Kireadsalot (talk) 05:58, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Household stone implements in Karnataka

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A tag has been placed on Household stone implements in Karnataka requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organized event (tour, function, meeting, party, etc.) that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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