User talk:Kleej13

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WP:SYNTH

I've restored a couple of your changes to Tom Luna, but a lot of the changes were inappropriate. Wikipedia doesn't allow original research, which includes the synthesis of different sources to make an original conclusion. We don't do investigative journalism here and any claim made must be directly attributable to a reliable secondary source. Therefore, in order to assert that Luna was not qualified to hold the office he announced he was running for, citing two primary sources and drawing an inference doesn't fly. If there's a newspaper article out there that makes that claim, however, inclusion of the claim could be discussed. (Frankly, it seems kind of irrelevant to me, but whatever.) Let me know if you have any questions. — Scientizzle 14:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

There was another piece of synthesis in the following wording you sought to add: Luna claims to have worked for the U.S. Department of Education as an adviser to then U.S. Secretary of Education Rod Paige from 2003 to 2005.[2][4] In spite of this, a detailed 2004 United States Government Printing Office directory lists Luna as a Special Assistant in the Office of the Under Secretary of Education for Region X in Seattle, Washington.[5] The wording "claims" and the wording "In spite of this" are original research (WP:SYNTH) unsupported by the sources. You would need a secondary source saying that these two items of information are incompatible (can't both be true) to be able to include what you wanted to include. JN466 16:27, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your insight, I understand your concerns. I am confused however as to why you said "I've restored a couple of your changes to Tom Luna, but a lot of the changes were inappropriate." I agree that the "claims" and the "In spite of this" sentences are inferences. What other issues did you have? Those were only two sentences and my edit was completely reversed (I think). I am still learning how to edit Wikipedia. kleej13 21:33, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

You seem to dislike Tom Luna, so his biography may not be the best place for you to learn. I'd recommend a quick read of WP:ADAM, and a close read of WP:BLP and WP:PSTS. JN466 13:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, but allow me to clarify what I meant be "I've restored a couple of your changes to Tom Luna, but a lot of the changes were inappropriate." Your edit introduced a number of changes. Some of those changes--such as those discussed above--were very problematic and resulted in these two reverts by TheRedPenOfDoom (talk · contribs) to the state prior to your edit. However, in reviewing your changes, I determined that some were clearly useful and re-added (with modification) three things: clarification of Luna's degree, further context in Students Come First reforms and an interesting detail about Romney's education policy advisory group. — Scientizzle 14:27, 13 September 2012 (UTC)