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30 September Movement edits

Hi. I reverted your additions of the Executed generals and admirals category to the victims of the 30 September Movement‎ because they were killed by members of the Indonesian Army involved in the coup attempt, rather than being "put to death by the state as a punishment for a crime" as per the definition at Capital punishment. I retained your tidying up of the articles. Davidelit (Talk) 07:47, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

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A suggestion

The intention of creating "Selective filmographies" in articles that have not such sections is appreciable, but creating such sections with just one title is not so productive. Please try to expand them... my best, Cavarrone (talk) 12:45, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Semihemidemibarnstar

semihemidemibarnstar For tagging US Air Force articles for lack of inline citations. I've done a few on a one by one basis and added footnotes to others, but not in the quantity you have. I'm going to have to rethink my policy of checking minor changes on my watchlist because it is getting so long with your changes.--Lineagegeek (talk) 00:45, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

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"No footnotes"

It looks as if you are running a bot-type job to add the "no footnotes" tag to many articles. What criterion are you using to decide about adding the tag, and how many articles do you plan to add it to? You added it to one article on my watchlist that should not have any footnotes, because it uses a different style of inline citations [1]. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:31, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not using bot; some time ago I added several pages to my watchlist. I tagged the articled, because i think that short cit would be better as parenthetical. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 19:42, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
This is another one [2]. An article that uses parenthetical citations like that shouldn't have the "no footnotes" tag.
The question whether you are using a bot is secondary to the size of the job, in any case. If you are going to be tagging thousands of articles, you need to go through the bot approval process regardless of the manner in which the edits are made. I am not sure that there is a consensus that every single article without footnotes should be tagged as such. — Carl (CBM · talk) 21:50, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Redundant wikilink

Hello, I posted a comment regarding your change to 11 Squadron (Belgium) on the article's talk page .
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Flower Mocher

I see you have an interest in military history. I do not. You will probably know more than I do about this. However I think you have made a mistake in your change of type of Colonel for Mocher. Please would you explain why you have done it. Eddaido (talk) 08:11, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


And now Desgranges too. Eddaido (talk) 08:13, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I corr. from Col. to Col. UK, as he had British rank. What's the problem? Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 08:15, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Well, the position he held is not quite the position you have linked to (which is I assume current and applies to the 21st century). In the 18th century the position was much more like the general description that applies to all countries. Do you follow what I mean? Please tell me. I want to get agreement before I change it back. I don't know but I imagine a colonel in the current Austrian Army has different responsibilities (though maybe broadly similar) to those of a colonel in the Imperial Army 250 years ago. See what I mean?
I see you were actually using a bot, do you think others will have the same problem? Eddaido (talk) 11:43, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
If you read Colonel (United Kingdom), all meanings of rank are covered; you're refering to Colonel_(United_Kingdom)#Ceremonial_ranks or Colonel_(United_Kingdom)#History. And I don't use bot for editing. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 11:47, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
First error "British Colonels are not usually field commanders" do I go on? Eddaido (talk) 11:50, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
We're talking about historial meaning. In Colonel I can't find any info on historical UK meaning, while at Col. UK there is. Regards,
Yes, that's right. If your link had been this Colonel_(United_Kingdom)#History instead of this Colonel (United Kingdom) your action would have followed your own logic (I blamed the fact that it didn't on a bot). My particular problem is that the man I was writing about was two different kinds of colonel within a few words of each other. I think it needs to be made clear in Mocher's case which is ceremonial and which is ordinary (I think the specifically UK article is not much good for either of my purposes but in the case of the ceremonial position it does give a reader comfort that he is 'in the right country'). The global description of colonel at colonel is genuinely informative in a way that the Colonel_(United_Kingdom)#History description is not. Does all this make sense to you? Anyway that is why I will revert your edit. I've no sense of particular responsibility for Desgranges so won't change that. Thanks for talking, Eddaido (talk) 23:44, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Tagging of Helmuth James Graf von Moltke

Dear Klemen Kocjancic, Thank you for your interest in Helmuth James Graf von Moltke. I note that you have placed a ref improve tag on the article. I didn't note any discussion of a problem in the Talk page. It appears to me that there are at least three independent sources covering the main thrust of the article in the form of books in a manner consistent with WP:Verify. Perhaps you could identify some of the problems that you see on the Talk page. I'd be happy to make any needed improvements, as I am sure that the sources are available to substantiate the current content. Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 21:08, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

There are several missing refs: "Education" has none, "Arrest, trial and execution by the Gestapo" would need at least two (including for his quote), and in "Recognition" ref for award. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 21:12, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions, Klemen, I'll look into them. In addition, I'll copy your suggestions to the Talk page. User:HopsonRoad 17:50, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

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Ship Class

Is there really a big difference of putting a dash (-) between the ship class name and word "class"? I don't really see the worth of changing all the articles on ship classes to satisfy this. Phichanad (talk) 05:41, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

It's according to NC regarding ships. I saw another user fixing titles, and then started helping. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 13:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Swiss people

Hi Klemen, Would it be wiser, rather than simply deleting all Category:Swiss people, for you to replace the cat with eg Category:People from Meiringen or whatever? Like this, for example. Then you would be adding something, rather than just taking something away. Thanks, Ericoides (talk) 10:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

I removed ctgr where there were already other Swiss "occupation" ctgr. Other I replaced them with better ones. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 10:40, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. Swiss people means people from Switzerland. When you remove this there is no longer a category listing where that person is from. People by canton in Switzerland‎ is a sub-category of Swiss people; it would seem sensible to replace the latter cat with the former. Ericoides (talk) 10:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Ofcourse. But Swiss are also connected to main cgtr through occupation subctgr. So they didn't disapp. from ctgr. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 10:52, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
We seem to be talking at cross purposes. Regards, Ericoides (talk) 10:56, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Category:2013 in Syria

Hello i was just wondering why you removed Category:2013 in Syria from the Battle of Ras al-Ayn --Liquidinsurgency (talk) 12:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

According to infobox and text fighting is over. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 12:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks :) (Fighting) just broke out in the city again. So i reverted your edit. --Liquidinsurgency (talk) 13:05, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Spanish actresses

Thankyou for your contributions to Category:Spanish actresses.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:16, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

4620th Air Defense Wing

You tagged 4620th Air Defense Wing#History for lack of citations. I see that there's been a lot of tagging of US Air Force unit articles for references in the last two months (and properly so I might add), but I don't think this article is among the ones needing the tag, so I've reverted your change. Lineagegeek (talk) 19:00, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Firefox?

Are you using Firefox? --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes; why? Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 06:51, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Your this edit hinted that! Known issue of Twinkle+Firefox combination! I have re-added {{Refimprove}} tag! --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:54, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Or, I hope you don't mind this revert --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:55, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Several times I noticed such things; deleting of large parts of text. Didn't know about the bug. Thx! Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 07:07, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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Moves of Royal Australian Navy ship class articles

Hello, I've just reverted your commendably WP:BOLD moves of these articles. It's very rare for a hyphen to be applied to these ships in that way, and so the moves weren't in line with WP:COMMONNAME. Please start a discussion if you think that the hyphens are needed. Nick-D (talk) 22:12, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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Nadežka Mosusova

What complaint did you have with the sources in this article? It's a very short article so has little to provide sources for. The Grove reference is generally the gold standard for biographical details on women composers. Pkeets (talk) 13:13, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Source on her works would be welcomed. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 13:15, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Zofia Helman

Same question about this one. Pkeets (talk) 13:14, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Same as above, plus source on her membership/editorial history. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 13:16, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Pkeets (talk) 21:39, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Ship class discussion

Hi Klemen, I've started a discussion of the use of hyphens in RAN warship classes at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships/Archive 36#Hyphenating Royal Australian Navy classes which you may wish to join. As I've noted there, I really don't want to come across as grouchy! Regards, Nick-D (talk) 23:52, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Reflists

Why are you changing a large number of reflist templates to the 2 column version? I don't think that's generally an improvement when there are only a small number (say, 10 or less) references. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:56, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Why? To minimize unnecessary blank space on the right side. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 06:54, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

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Tagging articles

I notice that you have recently tagged a huge number of articles that I have spent many years working on with "one source tags". Many of these articles actually have two sources but that's not the point. Let's all work together to improve articles rather than just applying tags which only takes a few seconds but which in itself does nothing to improve the articles. Dormskirk (talk) 12:42, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

These articles can be improved with ref's from the London Gazette; I tagged articles that had just LHCMA ref (or LHCM was primary source with just one or two others). Several other articles already have such multiple ref's. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 12:49, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
That's true but not the point. Take Beauvoir De Lisle for example. It only has two sources but there is nothing wrong with the article. It took many years to write all these articles (and in respect of which several of us have won many barnstars) but you have plastered them with tags in only a few minutes. Dormskirk (talk) 12:56, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Echoing the above: applying generic tags without explanation on the talk page of what info is contested is not constructive, particularly when no reasonable doubt is at its origin, but mechanic drive-by tagging. Is worth reflecting that the aim cannot be referencing each word. --ELEKHHT 12:17, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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Charles Tanford

Anything in particular that you feel is in need of citations? The article is hardly unreferenced in its current state so I'm not sure exactly what specific issue you feel needs to be addressed? Thanks (+)H3N-Protein\Chemist-CO2(-) 18:01, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Refs for (dates/years of) awards, and esp. for this part/section "Tanford is credited with the (...)". Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 18:06, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks. (+)H3N-Protein\Chemist-CO2(-) 18:34, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Bruce Baker

Eep. No - thanks for letting me know. I AWBed it from a list of links. I try to catch errors as I go through, but occasionally one or two slip through. Thanks for alerting me to it. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:55, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Again, thanks for letting me know. If you run into it anywhere else that rings false please feel free to just remove it - no need to alert me to it. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:16, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Božidar Kantušer

On Jan 30th, you added the {{ref improve}} tag to the Božidar Kantušer article.

Is there anything in particular you would like to see additional sources for? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borut Kantuser (talk • contribs)

Currently article has no in-line citations, but has plenty of sources. If you could add refs to text, that would be great. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 07:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Cologne

Greetings Klemen! I am a bit perplexed by your edit here - the subject seems to be the University of Cologne, rather than a living person. Your thoughts? :) Best regards, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 19:17, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Anatoly Laryukov

Друг, не надо ставить куда ни попадя плашки. Референсные ссылки имеются, хочется помочь, пожалуйста, делайте правки, ставьте ссылки (совершенно избыточные в данном контексте), к тому же статья является прямым переводом (с редакцией) с моей статьи в русской вики.

Friend, do not put where the Template. Reference links there are, If you want to help, please, make edits, put links (absolutely superfluous in this context), to the same article is a direct translation from my article in Russian wiki. M. J. Lee Khan talk 16:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Articles has refs, but hasn't got any in-line cits. Paka, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 17:44, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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Wikify has been deprecated

Hi Klemen! Just dropping you a note to let you know that {{wikify}} has been deprecated in favor of more specific templates, such as {{underlinked}}. Since the release version of AWB is still automatically adding {{wikify}}, I suggest you install the latest SVN snapshot instead, which has a lot of fixes in it. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Debye?

Hi. Sorry to bother you again. But I noticed that you removed Peter Debye from category:Physical chemists. I can't seem to find any discussion related to your apparent reorganization of this category, so I'm unsure as to why he was removed. Is it because it's redundant with category:dutch physical chemists? Thanks. (+)H3N-Protein\Chemist-CO2(-) 19:39, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, he was already in more specific subcategory. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 19:40, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for the prompt reply! (+)H3N-Protein\Chemist-CO2(-) 19:44, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

removing existing categories and replacing them with non-existing ones

Hi Klemen, I see that your recent edits involves removal of existing categories and replacing them with non-existing ones. This is in my eyes not helping the WP project much. Please do the effort to create the category first before doing this massive category swaps. Thanks, SchreyP (messages) 19:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I usually do it other way around. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 19:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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I don't agree with your 'Ref improve' template on e.g. analcime and Augusto Gansser. These are not constructive edits. Regards --Chris.urs-o (talk) 09:11, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

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Persondata

Hi, why are you adding empty persondata templates? [3] Regards,  Sandstein  10:07, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Because they are missing. Sometimes ABW doesn't include the data. I'll try to improve that in future. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 10:09, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, you are manually checking every AWB edit, yes? Then you should be able to enter all necessary data by hand if AWB doesn't supply it.  Sandstein  11:30, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

You need to start adding all required data to persondata. The only optional parameter is ALTERNATIVE NAME. All others are mandatory. This editor you did not add the full date of birth or place of birth. This edit you didn't add SHORT DESCRIPTION or place of death. You need to check things manually. Bgwhite (talk) 09:08, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

OK. But there are articles, where all mandatory info isn't there. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 09:10, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I know. But you are not adding mandatory items when the info is there, including the two edit summaries I gave. If it is not in the article, don't add it. If it is in the article add it. Bgwhite (talk) 09:29, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Bernhard Schrader

Dear user, can you please give more detailed info what references are exactly missing in the article? You can find all the info given in the wikipedia article about Bernhard Schrader in the following article which has been published in an internationally known and respected scientific journal:

↑ Korte, H.; Takahashi, H.: Biography of Bernhard Schrader. 2003 Journal of Molecular Structure, Volume 661-662, pp. 1-2 See also: Journal of Molecular Structure

Please give more detailed feedback what kind of additional references you are actually reqauesting.

--Ramanspektroskopiker (talk) 12:11, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Improve in-line cits. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 16:19, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Richard More (Mayflower passenger)

Hi! In this diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_More_(Mayflower_passenger)&diff=542603889&oldid=542078513 and in Line 87 when you reformated my reference David Lindsay, PhD., Mayflower Bastard: A Stranger amongst the Pilgrims (St. Martins Press, New York, 2002) pp. 104, 122, 150, 229 you dropped two of the page nos. ref name="David Lindsay 2002 pp. 104, 122" I corrected it once but you reinstated it. Would you please reinstate those two page numbers or, if you wish, I will. I do not know anything about AWB if that is an automated system or what. Thanks Mugginsx (talk) 15:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it's auto-corr. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 16:01, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
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False positive for you

Hi. I can see you've been very busy! I thought you might like to know that the occasional false positive might need looking out for, for example this one. The "in in" here, though clunky, was correct - what happened was that the canal basin was "filled in" and when it happened was "in 1903". Here "filled in" is telling us that it stopped being a canal basin and was filled in with earth or rubble or something - not that it was filled with water. I have restored the correct meaning, and reworded it to avoid this problem, though to be fair I don't think we can assume that it would always be right to do so. Hope this helps, cheers, DBaK (talk) 08:26, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for help! Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 08:27, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

No worries. I can see one or two more, I think - I will correct them and if possible reword to avoid this issue. Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:29, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Klemen. No dig or nastiness at all is intended here, but please note that I'm actually having to correct quite a lot of these. The problem is that "in in" is often wrong, but sometimes right! In the latter case, removing the second "in" is sometimes borderline or OK, but sometimes changes or loses the meaning. With the greatest respect, could I ask you to please slow up on this in future? I don't think it is really suitable for high-speed bulk changes using AWB because the context quite often needs examining. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 09:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll be more careful in the future. Thx again for you corrections. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 09:22, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
We can talk about the beer you owe me sometime! :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:36, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

reflist|2 ?

Not complaining - just ignorant: What difference does adding "|2" make? Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:31, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

It breaks one long column of refs in two. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 09:34, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Now I really am about to show my ignorance! Is this a browser dependent thing? Which browser are you using? (i.e. I'm not seeing any difference in IE) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:44, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm using Firefox. Try (CTRL+) F5. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 09:46, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
(Continuing to show my ignorance.) Ctrl-F5 in IE, or just Firefox? Pdfpdf (talk) 09:51, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

CTRL+F5 will refresh your IE's cache. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 09:54, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh wow! That's really cute! IE is impervious to it (surprise, surprise), but Firefox displays it quite nicely thank-you-very-much. "You learn something new every day"! Thanks! Thank you very much! Pdfpdf (talk) 10:05, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

BLP Source

OK, this time I am complaining - I don't see what value is added by this edit. The article has, in fact, mentioned a number of quite solid and useful sources. What are you trying to achieve by adding the template? Either remove it, or add something that is specific about what's wrong with what's there. The template you've added is both inadequate and inappropriate. Pdfpdf (talk) 09:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Career and Awards sections are without refs. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 09:43, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Then wouldn't it be more useful to put the templates on the Career and Awards sections? Pdfpdf (talk) 09:45, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

One edit/template instead of two. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 10:21, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

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Dead links?

Klemen, I have a query about the "dead link" tags you have added to West Somerset Yeomanry, amongst others. I am afraid that I do not understand this. The links that have been tagged are not dead - they take you to the Wayback Machine. Am I missing something here? Hamish59 (talk) 10:30, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Chechlinks tagged them. I'll inform developer regarding this. Maybe this web-archive site isn't excluded. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 10:32, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Understood. Are you going to remove the rest of the ones you have put in the various Yeomanry articals? Or should I help myself? I don't really want to revert the changes you made in good faith. Hamish59 (talk) 10:43, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
You're welcomed to correct. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 10:45, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, I will clean up after you. Hamish59 (talk) 15:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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additional citations for John A. Elston

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No footnotes

Hi Klemen. I don't think you current mass tagging (probably even without visual inspection) makes sense. --Leyo 13:31, 15 March 2013 (UTC)


A lot of articles, imported, without any in-line refs. And I open every one. Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 13:39, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

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Specifically for this edit, but in recognition of all your edits combined. Thank for making a improvement to that article, correcting an error that many others would have missed or ignored. Everything helps make a better Wikipedia. Herostratus (talk) 14:58, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

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Drive by tagging

I've taken issue with your drive by edits in the past. And I've added a source and removed your vandalism with a statement to that effect. You probably don't even backtrack your work. You continue on and on.

You just tagged Corey Burton as needing additional sources. What additional sources will satisfy your demands? YOU NEVER SAY. There is no standard by you or in wikipedia guidelines. Its ambiguous, a feeling but the ultimate arbiter, who apparently is you. This article is essentially a list of credits. It has specific four sources AND it has 5 external links. What I am saying is your work, however well meaning you might think it is, simply defaces articles that numerous other editors have collaborated to create. The fact that you leave no specific information and obviously do no further research just shows this is the height of laziness on your part. If you have a problem with an article, do some research and fix it, or at the very least, spend some time in the talk page itemizing what information you think is lacking. This particular article has been on wikipedia for almost 10 years, has undergone the better part of 800 edits, obviously passing though numerous eyeballs in the process. And yet you come along as a one person opinion and you aimlessly and publicly complain about the quality of their cumulative work in bold face at the top of the article. And you mindlessly do this to a hundred articles an hour. There can be no quality to your efforts, its just complaining about other people's work.

Please stop. Slow down. Lift a finger to make some effort to actually improve what you see wrong. Trackinfo (talk) 08:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

In this part. article most of the content is unref'd. "Early career", "Disney" (exc. "Paul Frees"), "Star Wars", "Brainiac", "Other television highlights", and "Other work": all without in-line refs. It's not may fault, that article creators didn't include refs. And now I'm lazy and is my fault??? Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 10:34, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Yes, you are lazy because you chose to deface the article with a tag, without even this much commentary on the talk page for the previous or future editors to know how to fix the article to your standard of quality. I'm not saying the previous editors have done a great job, its not my work, though almost all of it (credits) is sourced in the external links. All you have done with your thoughtless drive by editing is increase your impressive edit count, without actually doing anything productive to improve the article. Taken as a whole, you've done a lot of complaining but done nothing to solve the problems. Trackinfo (talk) 01:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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Drive-by tagging

I came across the Flying column article because of an edit made in 2009 that mistakenly altered a reference from an attribution into a standard citation to a source, and I am currently fixing those edits.

A few days ago I came across another page which you had recently edited and saw the comment (now archived) about drive-by tagging. As someone else had commented on your drive-by style I did not bother to contribute (User talk:Klemen Kocjancic/Archive 3#Drive by tagging). However I think that this example is too blatant to just let it pass by, and I think you should do a bit of checking yourself before adding such tags. If you had spent less than a minute checking the references section of Flying column you would have noticed that the first paragraph was almost a word for word copy of one of the references (to which a link had been provided). It would have been far more constructive to add citations to those links than just to tag the top of the article as you did.

In the minute that in which you tagged the article you tagged a further four articles. There is no way that you can be carrying out due diligence when you are making so many edits in such a short time to so many articles. As this issue was previously brought to your attention by another editor and your edit history since shows that you chose to ignore the advise of that editor (user:Trackinfo), please take this warning seriously: If you persist in tagging so many articles so quickly without carrying out rudimentary checks into available sources, or attempting to fix problems yourself, your editing of multiple pages in a minute can be seen as disruptive, so I strongly suggest that you alter your editing techniques and go for quality rather than quantity.

If it is brought to my attention by other editors that you persist in mass drive-by tagging without any attempt to fix the problems yourself, I may initiate administrative action.

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  • Just looking to see what idiot tagged a well written article with stupid no footnotes tagging, and this says you do little but that sort of tearing down of this great encyclopedia. This isn't 2005 anymore, give it a Frickin' rest. People like you tarnishing the great body of work we put together here are why I stopped editing regularly. IF YOU REALLY REALLY HAVE TO REALLY scratch the itch to HANG A DAMN TAG, THEN FIX THE PROBLEM in the next month of two if the condition hasn't cleared up. Do you revisit and check at all? Disgusting lack of responsibility. BE AN EDITOR, NOT A PROBLEM! You should be embarrassed for your lack of major edits. Perhaps if you sweat 1-3 hrs over getting some big parts of an article right, you'd get a clue how little value your tagging has. In fact it has negative effect—it makes us all look like a bunch of clowns. Many things are crystallized knowledge. They don't need inline cites when the information is available in multiple textbooks or on line by cited sources. Contribute, don't tear down! // FrankB 13:58, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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