User talk:Knightja

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Articles for deletion nomination of Bishop Ida Robinson[edit]

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March 2010[edit]

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July 2010[edit]

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July 2011[edit]

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Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

Hello, Knightja. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Mount Sinai Holy Church of America, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Bbb23 (talk) 12:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning. If you persist in adding unsourced material to Mount Sinai Holy Church of America, you risk being blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:44, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All the information that you have taken off the page is sources. http://www.mtsinaiholychurch.org/ It has all the information regarding college of bishops, district bishops, departments and other historical information. mshca 13:07, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

I am the originator of the page. If you check, you will see that I created this page over 10 years ago per the request of the organization which I am a part of. In that moment, I was advisor to the board of directors on all matters of public relations and have since updated the page to keep it current. With the death of our Presiding Prelate on Oct 7th, someone with an unknown account, made changes to the page that is not reflective of the true status of the church. I only attempted to do two things; 1, revert the page to its original state, 2, provide correct information regarding its leadership as of Oct 10, 2023 mshca 13:05, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Per your conflict, you must declare your conflict on your userpage (the above notice explains how). You may not edit the article directly. You may, however, propose changes to the article on the article Talk page using {{Edit COI}}. If you have any questions, please ask them at the WP:Teahouse.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:17, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

November 2023[edit]

Your account has been blocked indefinitely for advertising or promotion and violating the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, as you did at Mount Sinai Holy Church of America. This is because you have been making promotional edits to topics in which you have a financial stake, yet you have failed to adhere to the mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a form of conflict of interest (COI) editing which involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is strictly prohibited. Using this site for advertising or promotion is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia.

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State clearly how you are being compensated for your edits, and describe any affiliation or conflict of interest you might have with the subjects you have written about.
Describe how you intend to edit such topics in the future.

Bbb23 (talk) 22:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Knightja (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Per the history of the Mount Sinai Holy Church of America Wikipedia page, you can see that I have created and provide edits for the page. Over the years, vandals have continued to place misinformation on the page. To improve the sources for several edits/updates, in my most recent additions to the page (as seen it the history tab), I included citations from published sources to support the information that was shared. In addition, edits made on November 2, were stylistic ones to revert back to the pre-May 28, 2023 version of the page. The November 2023 block on my account states that I conducted advertising or promotion. However, I am unclear of how that was done? I do not work for the Mount Sinai Holy Church of America, nor do I receive compensation for any updates I do on the page. It is 100% voluntary. I would kindly request that user Bbb23 provide examples of how that has transpired per the block that was placed on my account. My edits for the account were aimed to accomplish the following goals: keep the page uniform in format to similar Christian denominations, keep the page current and exempt form inaccurate information, increase the level of creditable citations and resources to help improve its accuracy. If I have errored in providing that information per the regulation of Wikipedia, I take full responsibility for that but completely reject the assertion that my work is done as a paid action by said organization. I request the block be removed from my page, and a commitment from me to provide updates per guidelines shared within the Wikipedia community. mshca 16:35, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Even if you are not a paid editor, you have had some copyright issues and added unsourced information- on top of which you in most cases shouldn't be editing the article directly at all(and you know how to make edit requests). You will need to address these issues before being unblocked. 331dot (talk) 10:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@331dot: Thank you for the reply. I actually attempted the update the article with sourced links which were taken down by bbb23. I think the problem is my failure to understand the protocol regarding the proper way to make edit request. Something I am now clear on. I am not a frequent engager on this platform so forgive my ignorance. My overall objective was to address vandalism that was continuing to occur on the page. This current entire process has now shared the correct protocol to address that issue.mshca 20:52, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So you served as an advisor to the Board of Directors for public relations for free? 331dot (talk) 19:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, it was completely voluntary and part of my Christian service to serve. I currently do not hold that position but as part of Christian tenants, sever religious institutions without any form of payment.So the assertion that I financial stake in the Mount Sinai Holy Church of America, Inc. is completely baseless and doesn't even go along with the tradition of the organization and many other pentecostal denominations who often encourage adherents to serve God through voluntary service to their church. mshca 03:37, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Request to be Unblocked[edit]

Per the history of the Mount Sinai Holy Church of America Wikipedia page, you can see that I have created and provide edits for the page. Over the years, vandals have continued to place misinformation on the page. To improve the sources for several edits/updates, in my most recent additions to the page (as seen it the history tab), I included citations from published sources to support the information that was shared. In addition, edits made on November 2, were stylistic ones to revert back to the pre-May 28, 2023 version of the page. The November 2023 block on my account states that I conducted advertising or promotion. However, I am unclear of how that was done? I do not work nor have I ever worked for the Mount Sinai Holy Church of America, nor do I receive compensation for any updates I do on the page. I reiterate that the updating I have done on this page was 100% voluntary and part of my Christian service to serve. I currently do not hold that position but as part of Christian tenants, serve religious institutions without any form of payment. So the assertion that I have a financial stake in the Mount Sinai Holy Church of America, Inc. is completely baseless and doesn't even go along with the tradition of the organization and many other Pentecostal denominations who often encourage adherents to serve God through voluntary service to their church. IN addition, I have read and understand the Terms of Use and paid editing disclosure requirements and found that those terms do not apply to what I have done with my work within Wikipedia. My edits for the account were only aimed to accomplish the following goals: keep the page uniform in format to similar Christian denominations, keep the page current and exempt form inaccurate information, increase the level of creditable citations and resources to help improve its accuracy. I again reiterate that there has not nor is ANY COMPENSATION provided to me for doing what I have done. I am unclear as to how Bbb23 came to this conclusion and would like to request the protocol for making such determinations in order to have a clearer idea as to avoid any violations in the future.. I request the block be removed from my page, and a commitment from me to provide updates per guidelines shared within the Wikipedia community.mshca 14:28, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

I've converted the above from an unblock request to a comment. You may have only one unblock request open at a time.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:10, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm willing to accept at face value that no undisclosed paid editing has taken place, which is what the block was primarily for. However before you are unblocked I think there are a couple of things we need to clarify, and make sure you understand. The main one is that there is a distinction between paid editing, having a conflict of interest, and promotional editing. Those are three different, but often related things.

You don't have to be paid, employed, or indeed have any relationship with an organisation, to edit in what we would consider a promotional way. Promotional editing doesn't only include blatant advertising, but more subtle promotion as well - which can include the removal of criticism as much as the addition of information that casts the subject in an unduly positive light.

If you can demonstrate that you understand the differences between WP:COI, WP:PE and WP:ADVERT and commit to not doing any of those, I think we have a way forward. As a bonus it would be good to see you take an interest in editing articles other than those relating to Christianity - in my experience, a good Wikipedia editor is one who has more than a single purpose. Waggers TALK 15:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the breakdown that you shared in your response. Through this process I am also aware of the proper way to address vandalism that occurs on pages. I also would be more than happy to edit other articles related to Christianity. In addition, I have taken a look at the WP:COI, WP:PE, and WP:ADVERT pages to become educated in what each one means. Working on Wikipedia has been a steep learning curve and welcome the opportunity to provide substantive support through article creation/edits to this community Waggers. mshca 16:09, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Waggers: This has languished. OK to decline? Or would you like to unblock? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I must have missed the reply notification, thanks for the heads-up. I'm minded to unblock, unless @Bbb23 objects? Waggers TALK 09:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Ah, the $64 question. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure it matters much what I think, but what the hell, I don't believe that the user will edit anything other than articles related to Christianity, mainly because of their statement that their editing here is "part of [their] Christian service to serve". I'm not in favor of editors who have a mission - it's akin to WP:RGW, although in some instances worse, because the real mission of Wikipedians should be to create, maintain, and improve neutrally written, well- sourced, encyclopedic articles. Biases only interfere with that goal.

Their response to Waggers's SPA question said the opposite of what Waggers wanted to hear: "I also would be more than happy to edit other articles related to Christianity". It's possible that the user got twisted in their wording, but even assuming that they are "happy" to edit other kinds of articles, what would they be?

I'm also not comfortable with their obfuscating comments re UPE. They continue to focus on the word "paid", even though they've been told that one doesn't have to be compensated to have a conflict of interest that must be disclosed.

Finally, I've looked at their edits again, and their editing skills are pretty bad. Promotional, non-neutral, and full of MOS errors that will have to be fixed by other editors every time the user edits an article - and that's assuming someone is watching. For example, Mount Sinai Holy Church of America, the article they edited most heavily and the church with which they supposedly have no affiliation, has almost no page watchers, so if an incompetent editor lowers its quality, it may not be noticed. I oppose an unblock.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Completely respect your thoughts regarding the decision to block. I will reframe from additional attempts to continue to participate as a contributor to the Wikipedia community. A number of incorrect assumptions were made not only in the first instance of blocking but once again per the last comments. The back and forth isn't productive. However, through the conversations on this page, I have learned a great deal regarding protocols for editing and creating content for Wikipedia. For that I am greatly appreciative. Thanks to @Waggers @Bbb23@331dot mshca 14:35, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noted Bbb23's concerns. I cannot see unblocking you to write about Mount Sinai Holy Church of America in particular and/or Christianity in general. .. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not the place to post "updates" or to edit on behalf of one's religion. Those belong in the subject's or religion's website(s) instead. Hopefully, adding content copyrighted elsewhere and unsourced edits will no longer be a problem.. Please update your unblock request to describe what constructive edits you would make. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree that per the nature of what editors do on Wikipedia, I should not be pigeon holed into only focusing on religious organization. I have a wealth of experience in international relations, public diplomacy, and public affairs. Per your suggestion, I will update my unblock request to share this same information. mshca 16:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Knightja (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Post conversations with editors of Wikipedia, I am now more informed of the role of an editor on this online resource. In particular, I would like to expand my editing beyond religious institution and address pages that relate to in international relations, public diplomacy, and public affairs, along with gastronomy. mshca 6:39 am, 25 January 2024, last Thursday (4 days ago) (UTC−5)

Decline reason:

Taking into consideration@Bbb23:'s concerns, I am unable to unblock you at this time. See boilerplate that follows. I'm sorry, I am are unable to unblock you at this time. I recommend waiting at least six months before you again request unblocking. (You should not evade your block by editing the English language Wikipedia from a different account or while not logged in during this time. It would reset the six month timer.) It would work in your favor for you to constructively edit a different Wikipedia or Wikimedia project during this time, for at least six months and at least 500 edits. You will then need to concisely and clearly tell how your editing merited a block, what you would do different, and what constructive edits you would make. A list of Wikimedia projects can be found at META:List_of_Wikipedias . Before again requesting unblocking, please read the Guide to Appealing Blocks. Please read and heed any other advice you have received in unblock declines or discussions. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 8:41 am, Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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