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Hi back at ya!

Hi Kvng, I've been around at Wikipedia since about 2004. I was not always an anon IP, but I am now. I'll try not to get into any scrapes with you or anyone else. Bestest, 71.161.192.73 (talk) 17:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back! -—Kvng 01:18, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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 Done -—Kvng 15:45, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Kevin, thanks for your comments in the discussion about IDEF. I wonder if you could help me out with an other matter? I question if there is enough significant coverage in reliable sources on this subject. Since you comment on these kind of questions more often (for example here), I wonder if you could give your opinion here as well? -- Mdd (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

It looks like problems with that article are being sorted out. If any editor believes that the topic is not notable, he or she can [[WP:AFD|nominate the article for deletion. Were you considering doing this? I did a quick search and there seem to be sources (e.g. [1]). -—Kvng 20:35, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, a quick search indeed reveals all kind of reliable source (online), but they are almost all written by the designer. My concern remains, that the article doesn't seem to comply with the prescription, that Wikipedia articles should be based mainly on reliable secondary sources. Now I did added a notability-tag, but I doubt about what to do next. The thing is, that the subject has received some significant international recognition by the The Open Group and ISO (see here), and if things develop well this coverage in secondary sources will follow (within the years to come). So what should we do more? -- Mdd (talk) 23:59, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Maybe in this particular situation the Notability - tag should be replaced by the Primary sources - tag ? -- Mdd (talk) 00:18, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

{{refimporve}} or {{primary}}. I personally don't think there is a {{notability}} issue. But notability is not judged based on potential notability. It sounds like you might be thinking it is WP:TOOSOON for an article. -—Kvng 03:45, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, it indeed looks WP:TOOSOON. One last question: What are you main arguments that there might be no notability issue? -- Mdd (talk) 11:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

I quickly found one independent WP:RS indicating notability. Only two are required to establish notability. -—Kvng 13:48, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

I fail to see how that computable article written by MP could possibly be considered an independent source of the Wikipedia article started by MP about the framework developed by MP, and now exploited by MP's company. This discussion did reminds me that these (free) online (open source) magazines could be taken into consideration in matters like this. Thanks again. -- Mdd (talk) 00:24, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps I've misread that ref. You don't need my permission to nominate for deletion, just be sure to do the required research WP:BEFORE nominating. -—Kvng 18:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Please comment on Second Amendment lead discussion.

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Been a bit occupied with other things but intend to get to it. -—Kvng 03:11, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.GreekParadise (talk) 15:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

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Second Amendment Collective-Rights History pre-Heller

Please review prior to editing or commenting further on the Second Amendment. I have posted it on the Talk Page as well, but I'm reaching out to you and all other editors personally because I sincerely believe when you review the evidence and when you search for contrary evidence, you will see I am correct about this history. I'm not claiming you personally had any statement about this, but I wanted to post the identical thing on every editors' talk page so please do not take it personally. "You" refers to anyone who disputes the reliable sources I have posted below.

The law WAS collective only prior to Heller. If I show you 3 cases and several commentaries by irrefutably accurate sources and you cannot show me a single case from 1939 to 2000 to refute it, you have to accept that history is history.

Here are some quotes from:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nra-money-helped-reshape-gun-law/2013/03/13/73d71e22-829a-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_story.html

In 1977 at a Denver hotel, Don Kates paced a conference room lecturing a small group of young scholars about the Second Amendment and tossing out ideas for law review articles. Back then, it was a pretty weird activity in pursuit of a wacky notion: that the Constitution confers an individual right to possess a firearm.

“This idea for a very long time was just laughed at,” said Nelson Lund, the Patrick Henry professor of constitutional law and the Second Amendment at George Mason University, a chair endowed by the National Rifle Association. “A lot of people thought it was preposterous and just propaganda from gun nuts.” ...

The Second Amendment states: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Before the Heller decision, the Supreme Court and lower courts had interpreted the language as “preserving the authority of the states to maintain militias,” according to a Congressional Research Service analysis.

“It was a settled question, and the overwhelming consensus, bordering on unanimity, was that the Second Amendment granted a collective right” enjoyed by the states, not individuals, Bogus said. Under this interpretation, the Constitution provides no right for an individual to possess a firearm.

Lund [Remember he's the NRA-endowed Second-Amendment professor!] agreed that there was a consensus but said it was “based on ignorance.”

OK, you don't trust the Congressional Research Service, the Library of Congress, the New York Times, the Washington Post, or the National Rifle Association-endowed professor of constitutional law and the Second Amendment? How about trusting the courts themselves? Just read these three:

- Cases v. United States, 131 F.2d 916 (1st Cir. 1942)

- United States v. Warin, 530 F.2d 103, 106 (6th Cir. 1976) (“[i]t is clear that the Second Amendment guarantees a collective rather than an individual right.”)

- Love v. Peppersack, 47 F.3d 120, 123 (4th Cir. 1995) (“the lower federal courts have uniformly held that the Second Amendment preserves a collective, rather than individual right.”)

All of them cited Miller. All of them were the law of the land. There's not a single case in all of American history in any court state or federal that found an individual right to bear arms absent service in a militia and struck down a gun law as unconstitutional prior to 2000. I will pay $100 to anyone who can find any case that says so.

Furthermore, there is not a single President prior to 2000 that stated he believed the Supreme Court conferred an individual right to bear arms under the Second Amendment absent service in a militia. Even Reagan didn't believe it. I will pay $100 to anyone who can find any President that stated this position prior to 2000.

Truth is truth. If you don't like truth, you should not be editing wikipedia. Many editors here, I know you believe otherwise. But whoever told you a lie was true was mistaken. Read my sources. Then look for reliable sources on your own. When you can't find any (and if you do, I'll give you $100), I would respectfully request that all of you withdraw your objections. If you don't, then you are clear POV-pushers and should not be editing wikipedia.

Otherwise, if the only way to remove unreliable sources in wikipedia is to put up a request for comment and/or mediation, let's do it. I'll bet my reliable sources against all of your absence of sources any day. There is nothing wrong with admitting you are wrong. People are trying to revise history and some people fall prey to it. Maybe you read something on the Internet from some ignorant blogger and believed it to be true. I respectfully request you look at the sources and come to the only accurate conclusion.

My history is backed up by EVERY judicial decision and EVERY President prior to 2000 and the Library of Congress, and the Congressional Research Service, and the NRA-endowed Professor of the Second Amendment, not to mention the NYT and the WP. And the contrary position is backed up by some sincere mistaken beliefs AND NOT A SINGLE SOURCE.

An honest and ethical wikipedia editor cannot look truth in the face and declare it untrue without a single reliable source to back it up. I will post this on the talk page of every editor who has edited or commented recently because I sincerely want all of you to review the sources before further editing or commenting.

Further sources:

http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/RL34446_20080411.pdf (Congressional Research Service)

http://www.loc.gov/law/help/second-amendment.php (Library of Congress)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/us/06firearms.html (New York Times)

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If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC) hendy's Law Thanks for you note about the changes in the Hendy's Law information. I had not noticed it was all gone. I originally had a dedicated page about it but after some debate it was taken down. The main argument was lack of references - which I think now is not a problem. I also put some stuff on both the digital camera page and on the Moore's law page but I see that has all been taken down. In terms of references ... there are quite a few now. I even noticed recently that there is a Youtube video tutorial about it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUjBIlTuLLo That was news to me! A few other references include: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/archive/news/trust-the-power-of-technology/story-e6frg6q6-1225696991379 http://www.cs.cornell.edu/people/egs/papers/lesser-known-laws.pdf http://antranik.org/using-moores-law-to-predict-future-memory-trends/ http://i.materialise.com/blog/entry/a-moores-law-for-3d-printing These are just a few I know of ... I have also been contacted by a few researchers who wanted to know a bit more about the topic. I have not done much on Wikipedia - at the time I posted all this i got some flaming because my user name is obviously my name. I was a bit bemused ... I thought it was a bit deceitful to create an abstract name but it seems that was preferred! i have avoided joining in the discussions as I felt I was looked at a bit strange .... The data is certainly a bit old now. I really should up date it with some recent cameras and see how the projections look - but I know the last time I did that - a few years back - it looked surprisingly good. I still have a copy of the content from the original Wikipedia page. If you would like to repost it so it is not in my name - that would be great .... I probably should update the data for you though? Thanks again for your interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barry.hendy (talk • contribs) 09:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC) Hi Barry. Sorry about your bad experience on Wikipedia. We hear stories like yours a lot and many are trying to address it but it seems to be part of the culture. Maybe knowing that people bite newbies will help you not take it personally. I will start by restoring the text to the Moore's law article. The two issues that caused it to be removed were: There were no references. The references you supply above will address that nicely There was a claim that the exponential plot was manipulated. You redoing it might help but the real solution would be for an independent source to create their own plot. I will hold off on restoring the diagram until there's some progress on this. ~KvnG 15:03, 2 December 2013 (UTC) Potential sockpuppet of Levineps Recently, User:Oriole85 (contribs) has been sporadically popping up on my watchlist for category-related changes. A lot of new users do that, so it wasn't a particularly noteworthy thing for me. But then he kept showing up with a higher frequency, oftentimes making (what I thought to be) completely unnecessary over-categorizations to articles. I've been on Wikipedia long enough to know that User:Levineps (contribs) is one of the most notorious over-categorizers we've ever seen (and has the community sanctions, block records, and bans to show for it). So, I did about two minutes' worth of research and discovered that Oriole85's account was created / his edits began on November 5, 2013. When was the last edit by Levineps? November 4, 2013. That is not a coincidence IMO. I don't have (a) the time right now, nor (b) the motivation to formally open an SPI, but I'm hoping that one of the many people I'm notifying about this does. If you're wondering why you're being pinged about this, it's because I saw where you were one of the people who has left messages on Levineps' talk page at some point regarding his inappropriate editing. So now, in addition to all of the aforementioned issues with Levineps, it looks like a probably sockpuppet to throw into the mix. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:30, 5 December 2013 (UTC) The Wikipedia Library Survey As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 14:49, 9 December 2013 (UTC) Merge of AN/TAS-4 finished Hi Kvng, You asked who would do the merge for this article. After the AfD was closed, I decided to give it a try. Feel free to check my work and make alterations--it's the first time I've done a merge and could have missed something. --Mark viking (talk) 04:43, 5 December 2013 (UTC) What about the Applications section of the old article? ~KvnG 15:24, 9 December 2013 (UTC) In List of military electronics of the United States most list entries with annotations have a short single line of description, so I created the same for AN/TAS-4. Merging in the applications section seemed like adding undue weight, but feel free to do so if you like. --Mark viking (talk) 17:06, 9 December 2013 (UTC) I agree with your WP:UNDUE assessment. I disagree with how you resolved it. I don't think WP:UNDUE was considered during the AfD so I'm not convinced Merge is not a valid result. I've started a discussion on the general issue encountered here. ~KvnG 17:16, 9 December 2013 (UTC) Your submission at Articles for creation: Librarians' Information Literacy Annual Conference (December 13 Hi, I appreciate your comments, but also added references for Signum, International Leads, SCONUL Focus and New Library World journals - do this still count as non-notable? Apologies for confusion, but I'd be grateful for clarification? Thanks. Cpack123 (talk) 16:10, 13 December 2013 (UTC) Sorry, I was just quickly clicking on stuff and there are not links to click on for those references. That's not necessarily a problem. Can you provide me with some information on these sources? ~KvnG 16:37, 13 December 2013 (UTC) Sure; I have managed to find one more link for the page. Signum is a Library Journal published by the Finnish Research Library Association, some is Finnish, some English (http://www.stks.fi/in-english), International Leads is published by the American Library Association (http://www.ala.org/irrt/intlleads/internationalleads), SCONUL Focus is published by SCONUL (Society of College, National and University Libraries), who are very highly regarded in the field of Information Literacy, having developed the '7 pillars' model and New Library World is an academic journal on the subject of Library and Information Studies published by Emerald (http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm?issn=0307-4803). Unfortunately some of these are subscription only so I'm unable to provide links to the articles. Cpack123 (talk) 10:28, 14 December 2013 (UTC) I found another ref too and have accepted the article. There's plenty of work to do. I would add any links you have to the further reading section - link to the journal's website if you don't have a link to the article or a doi. ~KvnG 15:11, 14 December 2013 (UTC) This week's article for improvement Oracle bone of the Shang Dynasty, ancient China – an example of recorded history Hello, Kvng: The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection. Recorded history Posted by: Northamerica1000(talk) 04:13, 16 December 2013 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:Cough medicine Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:Cough medicine. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. 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Notability of Rabbit Welfare Association These two news reports from the BBC are dated 2013 and 2006, and have quotes from representatives of the RWA: Rabbiting on: Study and debate on talking to bunnies and Rabbits 'now the most abused pet' There is also this article from Vets Online. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stitchhead (talk • contribs) 13:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC) Thanks. Notability is established by significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. The BBC is certainly a reliable source but the coverage there is not significant. Vets Online is not necessarily reliable. We're not quite there yet in my judgement. I've added these links to the submission but I'm going to have to reject it for now. You're welcome to resubmit after making improvements or as is for an opinion from another editor. ~KvnG 16:16, 28 December 2013 (UTC) Would these make any difference to your opinion? http://www.rabbitawarenessweek.co.uk/partners http://paag.org.uk/about/ http://www.petproductmarketing.co.uk/content.php?sid=502 http://www.petproductmarketing.co.uk/content.php?sid=395 http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13644 http://www.supremepetfoods.com/category/news/page/4/ http://www.libertauk.co.uk/liberta_triumphs_in_rwaf_s__best_rabbit_hutch_and_run_.html http://blog.monsterpetsupplies.co.uk/win-a-rwaf-approved-6ft-rabbit-hutch/ http://www.burgesspetcare.co.uk/blog/category/news http://rabbitsrequirerights.webs.com/about-us http://thebnn.org/2010/08/22/international-news-own-a-hutch-break-the-law/ http://www.petbusinessworld.co.uk/news/feed/retailers-urged-to-back-rabbit-awareness-week http://www.vetsonline.com/news/latest-headlines/emotional-welfare-of-rabbits-the-focus-of-raw-2011.html http://www.pettalkmagazine.com/charities--rescue-news.html http://pettradextra.newsweaver.com/Newsletter/8w1stlay9iu?a=6&p=258335&t=365 http://www.mulberrypublications.co.uk/mediapacks/pgaz-latest.pdf http://www.vetsonline.com/news/latest-headlines/latest-news-from-the-rabbit-welfare-association-and-fund.html http://www.vetsonline.com/news/latest-headlines/rwaf-opens-rabbit-friendly-practice-list-to-the-public.html http://mrcvs.co.uk/en/news-story.php?id=8346 http://www.companioncare.co.uk/farehamcollingwood.html http://www.rspca.org.uk/ImageLocator/LocateAsset?asset=document&assetId=1232731192060&mode=prd Yes, Stitchhead, this is looking better. Integrate some of stronger articles as references for the material in the article and resubmit it. WP:INDEPENDENT references which describe RWAF as the leading UK authority are especially compelling. Hopefully the editor selected to do the next review will accept it. ~KvnG 01:11, 2 January 2014 (UTC) Pluribus Networks Not at all sure why you accepted this article from AfC - there's not a lot in the form of reliable news sources about this company, certainly nothing to meet WP:NCORP notability criteria. Sionk (talk) 00:02, 8 January 2014 (UTC) Significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Specifically SDN Central and Network World. ~KvnG 02:29, 8 January 2014 (UTC) drayter rejected article Dear KVNG, This was my first attempt at writing a wiki submission. Can you give me any suggestions in editing or improving the article for approval? Thanks! Dayzee Day zee14 (talk) 03:17, 8 January 2014 (UTC) I would suggest you trim the content down to what's reported in the cited sources. 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