User talk:LRBurdak/Archive03

Jewlia

Hi, I have listed Jewlia for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jewlia for the discussion, and please join it. This AfD is not intended against you personally or against Indian articles in any way: I appreciate the work you do, but I fear that these articles (about gotras) are not what is the intention of Wikipedia. I'm sorry I didn't catch this earlier, so that this discussion could be had when you just started adding these, instead of now, when a lot of work has been done yet. Fram 14:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

The article Jewlia is on social group of India. It has been written encyclopedic way. I got it in svenska wikipedia and thought to put on English wikipedia as well. I do not think there is any harm in it. It is going to increase a knowledge base. I searched Jewlia which I found on wiki- svenska and not on eng-wiki. I think it is not violating the policy of wikipedia in any way and hence should not be deleted. burdak 16:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Jat clans

Hi. There is this worrying development that I wanted to tell you about. A number of pages related to Jat clans have come under the scanner. Why? because, they are usually of a single line and thus are in line with the deletion policy of Wikipedia.

I would urge both, yourself and Mr. Ravi Chaudhary to look into the matter. Agreed, the pages are of one line. But they can be expanded overtime.

It would be a pity if these pages are deleted.

Regards.Rajatjghai 11:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Rajat I tried but it was deleted. I was single to defend. Kindly go and defend otherwise it is a bad trend. One line stub can be expanded over time. We need more hands to defend. Thanks burdak 12:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Jat clans

Hi Bhadaniji, a number of Jat clans have been listed for deletion, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Abusaria

Kindly you are requested to go there and vote note to delete. It will be a bad trend. Kindly do some thing. The clans may be one liner but likely to expand in future. These clan have history in itself. Thanks burdak 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me. I have given my views: Keep. --Bhadani 13:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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*THANKS*

Hi, LRBurdak,

I really appreciate your’s & Shyamsunder’s efforts. We tried our best to save article regarding Justice Kan Singh Parihar. Don’t worry, Sun always shines, immature cloud comes and goes. That is very little thing.

I would like to bring it to your attention that Ambuj.Saxena has altered “List of notable people from Jodhpur”. I think without having knowledge of the notable people from Jodhpur he is deliberately vandalizing the list. He has removed titles from the names of people listed. In my opinion that is totally wrong because these people are well known with their titles. It may be confusing because many other people may have similar name. For example Major Shaitan Singh (Param Veer Chakra) is popularly known as Major Shaitan Singh not just Shaitan Singh.

PS:- I really appreciate you and Mr. Shyamsunder for creative writings.

Thanks. (Jodmar 02:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC))

Suicides by farmers

Please consider to write an article/stub about suicides by farmers in India . Shyamsunder 15:03, 05 August 2006 (UTC)

15 AUGUST

A DAY TO REMEMBER OUR PATRIOTIC HEROES.GREETINGS.

BobClive

Parasram Maderna

I have tried to edit/add more information on Parsram Maderna's page, pls see bhagirathasingh@yahoo.com

Thanks

Thank you for the portrait of Maulana Barakatullah.--BobClive 05:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Will you help me in uploading portraits for a few other articles ? I can send you the pictures by e-mail.--BobClive 06:00, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi BobClive, tell me the pages/articles you want to link with Barkatullah image. Thanks. --burdak 10:25, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Dear Burdak, what I wanted was your help to insert portraits to the following articles: Jatindranath Mukherjee alias Bagha Jatin (to be inserted in the body of the article, instead of leaving in the Picture gallery), Jadugopal Mukherjee, Bhupendra Kumar Datta, Taraknath Das, Guran Ditt Kumar, Atulkrishna Ghosh, Panchanan Chakraborty, Shashibhushan Raychaudhury, Yogendra Vidyabhushan, Virendranath Chattopadhyay, Dilipkumar Roy. I have their portraits but do not know how to inload.Can you drop me an e-mail at prithwin@vjf.cnrs.fr with your e-mail id ? Thanks a lot.--BobClive 14:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Keep up

I have been noticing your contribution for sometime. Congratulations. Please keep up your good work. -- P.K.Niyogi 02:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Niyogi, Thanks for encouragement and praise for my contributions. burdak 04:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Bakasura

I appreciate you linking your Bakasura page with my Koka and Vikoka page. However, I am still unclear on which Bakasura is the father of these two demons. I won't kill the thread, but if I find out that it is a different Bakasure, I will have to. Thanks for your contribution. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 18:01, 17 September 2006 (UTC))

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Query on historical accuracy of dates for Jats

Dear Shri L R Burdak:

I just noticed your recent comments on the Discussion page of Jats. First, I have added a marker to your note which allows all the references you gave to be easily readable - I hope this is O.K. with you?

I was very surprised to find your statement: "On the basis of historical facts the Jats are reported to be present in India from 3102 BC." You give Dr Natthan Singh's book: Jat - Itihas (Hindi), as a reference for this. I have been studying Indian history for more than 25 years and I have never come across any historical information which can be accurately dated earlier than about the middle of the first millenium BCE. If Dr. Natthan Singh's claims can be verified, this would indeed be a landmark in the study of Indian history. Perhaps you would be kind enough to outline the evidence for this very early and remarkably precise dating? Thank you. John Hill 23:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC) PS: I will include a copy of this note on the Jat Discussion page.

Year 3102 BC

Hi John Hill, There are two references cited above with 3102 BC. One is Dr Natthan Singh who is a reputed author of 'History of Jats'. Another reference is that of CV Vaidya who is an authority on Indian history. After your note above I tried to find more references. I found in Sister Nivedita book on Myths of The Hindus and Buddhists in which she has given calculations about Hindu cosmology. She has mentioned that commencement of Kali yuga coincides with the day of the death of Krishna. This way this year coincides with death of Krishna. We have this on wikipedia as well. This year is mentioned on its link page of 3102 BC that:

• 3102 BC – Astrological evidence places this date to be the death of Krishna at the age of 125
• 3102 BC — Year 0 of the Kali Yuga begins

Regards,

More on 3102 BC

Dear Shri Burdak, What you are saying, I gather, is that according to Hindu cosmology certain events took place in 3102 BC. While this may be accepted as fact by some Hindus, this sort of calculation is usually not accepted by people of other faiths as "historical fact." Many religious traditions have made calculations of this sort based on their scriptures and traditions. For example, the Anglican Archbishop James Ussher calculated on the basis of comparing information in the Christian scriptures with established historical dates that the world was created in 4004 BC. Nowadays most Christians, including most Anglicans (not to mention people of other faiths), no longer accept this date as worthy of serious consideration. It would be better in a general encyclopedia such as this, I suggest, to present such information in terms as such "calculations based on Hindu cosmology or tradition." Cheers, John Hill 22:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Jat in Mahavamsa

Dear John Hill, Thanks for the suggestions. There is a need to find some solid historical fact. That is why I put it for discussion. I found that you have done a good work in Buddhist literature. Most of the Jats had adopted Buddhism when it was at peak. There is a need to research the Buddhist literature about origin and history of Jats. Mahavansha, provides a continuous historical record of over two millennia. At one point I find a comment about Chandragupta Maurya as under-

"Mahavamsa describes Chandragupta as coming of Kshatriya clan of Maurya: Mauryanam Khattyanam vamsha jata. (Geiger Trans p 27)."

The meaning of this shloka in sanskrit is that Mauryas are Jat of kshatriya clan. Can you suggest further approach about this and links which provide material on Jats in Buddhist literature or traditions. burdak 04:07, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

More on Jat in Mahavamsa

Dear Shree Burdak: Thank you very much for your last note which is, indeed, of great interest and importance as it seems to firmly establish that the Mauryas were of Jat lineage.

Unfortunately, I do not have a copy of the Mahavamsa available other than the on-line in the two internet links given in the Wikipedia article on the Mahavamsa. I haven't been able to find the passage you mention in either of these on-line versions of the Geiger translation but, perhaps, they are not complete or the English translation is faulty. I would be very grateful if you could send me the full quote and reference and any other details you can find. Many thanks, John Hill 23:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

I saw your message while asking Shyamsunder for help on something. You my want to check this discussion out . Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics#Caste_lists_vs._Caste_cats - Bakaman _Bakatalk 08:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation

Maybe you could help add the scripts to some of the Hinduism articles. I have listed them here: Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation.--D-Boy 08:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for adding the Devanagari script on the Kandariya Mahadeva page. :) Antorjal 14:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

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Ram Swarup Joon

Hi. Do you know whether or not that particular history book from Joon has reached the age in India to become public domain. Maybe we can upload it to Wikisource if it is old enough to become public domain. --LBMixPro ^{<Speak|on|it!>} 07:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Ram swarup Joon had written this book "History of the Jats" in Hindi in 1938 which was translated to English in by Lt. Col. Dal Singh in 1967. It has become more than 60 years and already it is on Jat History group. It has reached the age in India to become public domain. There is no copyright tag on Jat History group. We can think of making it a Wikisource. Thanks burdak 08:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

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Temples in Rajasthan

Hi, I have recently created stubs/articles on some well known temples of Rajasthan .Can you please copyedit them and add/improve them.Thanks Also I have doubt about the notabilty of Raghuvendra Mirdhaas the article does not mention any ministership or membership of parliament .Please look into. Shyamsunder 14:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Karni Singh Rathore

Please help save the above article -Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karni Singh Rathore. Shyamsunder 22:25, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Bawdi and stepwell

Hi. Please see the discussion at Talk: Step well. Following this, I would like to merge Bawdi into Stepwell. Do you have any comments or objections? Imc 16:38, 23 December 2006 (UTC)