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American University of Antigua page

Hi Leuko, user ZQPM2941 is vandalizing the American University of Antigua page again. This time he is posting information that is completely not about the school. He has been engaged on the discussion page but he is still making edits. Is it possible to ban him from the page? Your help will be appreciated in resolving this dispute. BedTimeForBonzo (talk) 15:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

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There's been a mistake

Well, I just received this message:

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit that you made to the page Parthen Rasithen has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Please use the sandbox for testing any edits; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing for further information. Thank you. Leuko Talk/Contribs 18:31, 29 November 2009 (UTC).

Fact is, I never did any editing and to tell you the truth, I don't even know a Parthen Rasithen. Neither was I aware of, till now, that messaging is possible with Wikipedia. And if ever I am to edit something, it will be constructive, because I'm a scientist and not a spammer running amok to mess with such an informative and helpful website. Obviously there's been some mistake. Please take the necessary steps to rectify that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.73.120 (talk) 12:26, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

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My name is Greg Miller and I'm the director of the wiki healthcare movement called "OurMed". I saw that you have a background in healthcare and I wanted to tell you about our wiki project.

At OurMed, we're building an exciting interactive healthcare website that's based on MediaWiki, like Wikipedia. But we're taking this awesome global, collaborative tool an important step further--we verify all content by healthcare professionals like yourself.

We launched the Wikipedia version last year (OurMed.org), and this year we’re adding a host of important features that will make OurMed an extensive site for unbiased and user driven clinical research/tools for physicians as well as user friendly resources for patients and consumers. You can have a peek at our new design here: bluelinerdev.com/ourmed

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Nomination of Zhe Zeng for deletion

The article Zhe Zeng is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zhe Zeng until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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Caribbean Medical University

Im a student of CMU and dont bash my school by providing false information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.167.7 (talk) 20:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Exactly why you shouldn't be editing the article - you are a single purpose account that is violating WP policies by engaging in an edit war to remove cited negative facts about the school in violation of WP:NPOV. Leuko Talk/Contribs 21:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi - I have blocked the IP and put the article on my watchlist; next time it might be a good idea not to revert five times before reporting it though ;) Black Kite (t) (c) 21:11, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, was Huggling, lost track. :-) Thanks! Leuko Talk/Contribs 21:12, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

BJJpix.com

I would like to know if you looked at my website before you deleted its link. It only has Brazilian Jiu jitsu pictures and they are awesome. It's pure content. I'm not selling anything on my website. Would you please consider it again? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamBKH (talk • contribs) 21:49, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

The fact that it is your site means it is a Conflict of Interest and self-promotion. I would suggest discussing it on the article's talk page to see what the consensus is. Leuko Talk/Contribs 21:53, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

disruptive editing???

You removed a page that was there for a long time and put false information to bash our school. Based on your contributes, you must be a graduate of one of the schools that you had previously edited so remove their pages as well if you think its advertisement like AUA, Windsor or St. Mathew. We have our page looking similar to other medical school pages so be objective.

Adding verifiable facts from reliable sources is objective. I am only here to get the facts out, not forward a partisan agenda as a member of the school. Leuko Talk/Contribs 00:29, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Verifiability, WP:UNDUE, and CMU

Please be careful to maintain balance in your edits and to ensure that any controversial statements you make are fully verifiable by reliable sources. A neutral observer likely would see undue emphasis on negative information in the CMU article, as you edited it. The term "diploma mill" gets extreme reactions from the entities thus labeled, so Wikipedia needs to be very sure that when we say an entity has been labeled this way, we have a very solid basis for that allegation. Also, although the murder of a student (apparently off-campus) is a serious event, it's not generally the sort of thing that belongs in a short encyclopedia article about a university-level -- unless there is some documented indication that it has large and long-term significance with respect to the school. Regarding verifiability, please note that lack of evidence for something does not prove is non-existence. Specifically, absence of documentation that CMU has government approval or accreditation is not verification that it lacks approval or accreditation. Additionally, please be sure that the sources you cite are reliable. Web pages like this one, which is created to promote a commercial business and appears to be derived from Wikipedia content, are not reliable sources for encyclopedic content. --Orlady (talk) 14:52, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but all of the information on this "school" comes to the same conclusion - that it is an unaccredited diploma mill which is not acceptable for licensure in numerous states. The only dissenting opinion comes from the school's administration - hardly neutral or verifiable. Per WP:UNDUE, the majority viewpoint was presented. We had the same discussion regarding St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine, and came to the conclusion that just because there isn't any positive WP:RS coverage, doesn't mean that negative coverage has to be suppressed to meet WP:NPOV. As far as the murder, this institution is hardly a university. The school cites an average class size of 16l so there are maybe 40-50 students on the island at the school. In addition, the cited article notes that the murder occurred in a dorm room, so given the proximity to such a small campus community, it seemed significant. As far as WP:RS, that list looks like it was derived from Oregon's list, which is reliable. Finally, as far as accreditation - there are only a handful of accrediting agencies - such as CAAM-HP, and if they are not listed as accredited (as other schools are), that is evidence that the school is not accredited. Leuko Talk/Contribs 04:11, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I've worked on many articles about unaccredited and/or allegedly fraudulent educational institutions, and I have plenty of scars to show for the experience. The deal is that Wikipedia cannot publish potentially controversial or defamatory information without verification through reliable sources. We can't say that a school is unaccredited or unapproved unless a reliable source has affirmatively stated that it lacks accreditation or approval -- saying that it's not on the lists of accredited/approved institutions does not provide verifiable evidence that it isn't accredited. We can't say it's been called a "diploma mill" or a "scam" or a "substandard institution," or given some other negative label unless we can say who called it that and cite a reliable source. If the Oregon ODA list identified it as "unaccredited" or "diploma mill," Wikipedia can say that and cite the ODA, but Wikipedia can't cite somebody's website that probably was scraped off Wikipedia and might have been based on Oregon ODA at one time. And to avoid issues of WP:UNDUE, potentially peripheral negative events (such as the murder of a student, allegedly by another student) should not be the main focus of an article -- particularly when the event is fresh news and the facts may still be in question. If a reliable source documents that someone has made allegations against the school in connection with this murder (for example, that the school's negligence was a contributor), then it would start to belong in the article. --Orlady (talk) 12:23, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Avalon University School of Medicine

Hi Leuko,

I hope you are doing great. I have a small question about Avalon University page on wikipedia. Can you please explain me that why you modified the information as this school is unaccredited? As far as I know this school has all the required accreditation. Need you guidance and help to keep this page error less and authentic.

Regards, Asfateh (talk) 01:29, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

The school is recognized by the local government (as evidenced by the IMED listing), but it is not accredited. Accreditation is done by an outside review organization, such as CAAM-HP or ACCM - this school is accredited by no one, hence "unaccredited." Leuko Talk/Contribs 02:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
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