User talk:LilHelpa/Archive 4

Archive Number 3 – Feb. 27, 2010 through May 5, 2010

For my archived awards see: User talk:LilHelpa/awards

Fixes of "the the"

There is a very high occurrence of this error. Perhaps on the order of thirty per day.

I can see it coming now, so in order to preempt some interruptions, let me ask that you review the situation with this in mind:

• Would you say, "His article in the Newsweek was well written."? So why then: "His article in the The New York Times was well written."?
• Would you say, "His performance on the American Idol was well received"? So why then: "His performance on the The News Hour was..."?
• Similarly: He was a member of the Aerosmith. vs He was a member of the The Beatles.

--LilHelpa (talk) 15:22, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I notice your fixes have included changing the rendering of band names, even where there was no duplication of the word. Please note that our Manual of Style now deprecates capitalized "The" for band names in running prose (see the relevant guideline). You may therefore wish to correct edits such as this and make an appropriate adjustment to your scripts. PL290 (talk) 20:53, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks much for bringing this to my attention. It is not a script edit and I don't recall making it often. Though I don't agree with the guideline I will comply in the future. --LilHelpa (talk) 22:01, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

"the the"

From your userpage:

Chipping away at the huge number of "the the" and "the The" errors.

Do you want a bot to help with that? I'm surprised there isn't one taking care of it already.

69.228.170.24 (talk) 03:36, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Well WP:AWB does have the capacity to fix "the the" (which is almost always an error), but it will not do a wiki text search, returning, "Unable to generate lists using Wiki search (text). Removing from the list of providers during this session." I'm guessing that's because there are so many instances of it (though why that would matter is beyond me). I'm been doing a Google search and working from Google and sorting by date to chop down new errors.

A bot would be great, or if you can get liaison with the AWB guys to figure out how to make it pursue the search, that'd be great. I should probably be doing the latter, but hey... I just like fixing sand castles as the tide rushes on :) LilHelpa (talk) 10:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Have you tried using AWBs database search feature. You can download download a copy of Wikipedia and search through that. The AWB database search has the advantage of searching with a regular expression etc so that at least some of those false positives can be eliminated. Keep up the good work. PS. I will be on a wikibreak for a couple of weeks. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 13:30, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I've been thinking about that and actually started on it at one point and backed off. Didn't find that link. Will look at that. Thanks much. LilHelpa (talk) 13:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I was figuring it simplest to just use wikipedia search (special:search, help:search, API). Using a database dump is another possibility. Or a regularly running bot (like one of the existing vandal revert bots) could notice new edits with "the the" when they are made. 69.228.170.24 (talk) 01:17, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, I took a whack at the database dump and regular expressions. Thought I could get a handle on that, but I guess I'm not geek enough... or just might be getting too old and unflexible. Whatever, I'm probably done wasting time on it. LilHelpa (talk) 22:07, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Fritz Werner

Are you ready for more music? Fritz Werner was also a composer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Bah.. having a bad day... botched the summary line. LilHelpa (talk) 22:22, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me not understanding "botch" and what summary line means here. Thank you for your changes! I thought "since" could be used - as the German "seit" - only if it's still true. Seems to be different in English.

New: his tenor (one of them) Kurt Huber (tenor) singing the Evangelist (Bach) in the Ascension Oratorio. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I should better consider my phrasing (botch is slang for mess up or make an error). Since works OK, but it is a bit awkward and rarely heard used in that way (at least in America). Typically one says, "He has been director of the academy since 1950." or "He became director of the academy in 1950." rather than, "Since 1950 he was director of the academy." On to the next...

I saw one possible comma after a date in Huber, but would not make so small a change. Some changes in Evangelist. Pretty clean work. LilHelpa (talk) 15:41, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Huber on DYK now - Ascension Day. Thank you! Werner waiting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Magnetar Capital

Thanks for fixing the the typo. Decora (talk) 01:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Isabella of France

Thanks as ever for your tireless work! Hchc2009 (talk) 16:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

It's a pleasure to be of service to those noble souls who build it. LilHelpa (talk) 16:12, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Musical artist name

I reverted part of this change as it's spelled "Pavillion" on the album. Whether the band actually spells their name this way, or it's a typo in the album notes, is not known. Another editor questioned another spelling on the article's talk page, and I double-checked, as I did here; see prior discussions on the article's talk page for an explanation of this decision. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 12:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate the notification. Thanks. LilHelpa (talk) 14:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

follow up inquiry.

I just wanted to follow up on a recent edit of your for my own education.

Recently you changed the following list entry: James Belushi, actor, current star of the ABC sitcom 'According to Jim'.

You changed it to: James Belushi, actor, current star of ABC sitcom According to Jim.

I am just inquiring to the grammar rule regarding the removal of the. Thanks in advance for feeding my curiosity.Dkriegls (talk) 23:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

The specific instance you reference really has no grammar rule making it mandatory. It is more a preference than anything else and easily could have been left alone, which is probably what I should have done. LilHelpa (talk) 21:27, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

;)

Thanks

For some fixes on Battle of Dornock. Here, have a cookie:

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Thanks! Yummy baking! LilHelpa (talk) 21:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Two sopranos

If you are in the mood, Adele Stolte and Dorothee Mields going for DYK, hopefully on Pentecost. Remember Werner? finally ok. smiling twice --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Will have a look at the ladies soon ;) LilHelpa (talk) 20:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, the ladies looked nice on DYK! next two gentlemen - equal opportunity - Ludger Rémy and Harry van der Kamp, if you like. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Very clean. Not enough to make an edit. Could improve your references in some ways (e.g. by adding "retrieved" date), but I don't have the energy right now. LilHelpa (talk) 00:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Harry vdK was on today, now a lady again, Ingeborg Reichelt, with retrieved date, smile, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Inge looks good, wink. LilHelpa (talk) 17:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, wink back, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your contribution to the article Osman Aga of Timişoara. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:56, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

And thanks for the many corrections you've made for to my poor spelling in various articles. FeydHuxtable (talk) 10:53, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Glad to assist. All the thanks I need is to keep proofreading! LilHelpa (talk) 11:13, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Nureongi

Hi Lilhelpa! I need some help with this new article, Nureongi. Could you take a look at it for me please? Thanks, yer a pal! Chrisrus (talk) 23:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Wow, thanks Lilhelpa! You're awesome!!!Chrisrus (talk) 04:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

More singing

Hi lilHelpa, tenor sounds available of Jan Kobow, if you like. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh my, soon you won't need me at all :( Nice work!

I redated one ref from 2010-03 to 2010-03-01 because AWB wanted to change it to an October date, so this will avoid any errors by future checkers. Hope you are enjoying the springtime. LilHelpa (talk) 10:55, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, walking, hiking, gardening. But here is also a new one: Andreas Schmidt (baritone). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! (btw: Kobow on DYK on Sunday. I heard him on radio: beautiful singing. I hadn't heard him when I wrote the article.) - Here is a soprano for whom I didn't find the slightest bit of bio. But uncountable students who write about having studied with her: Edith Selig, what a name, Edith Blessed, sort of. She may still live, some obituaries about a lady of that name don't match her. Feeling like a detective, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

One more question: I wonder which teaching category would fit, she may be German or Swiss, but teaching in France? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Article looks good. I added one category, not sure what better ones you might have found. I did not see any by nationality, but must admit... categories are not my forte. LilHelpa (talk) 17:35, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Prestissimo response! I didn't find any cat, not knowing if the teachers of that notable school are academics. I don't speak French which might help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:46, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree that it is hard to find a category according to nationality. I have some French, but it doesn't seem to help much. LilHelpa (talk) 18:06, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks very much for your assistance with my recent article. I'm impressed with your promptness, and I fully support your efforts to eradicate the egregious "the the"! Rudi Seitz (talk) 01:55, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help. LilHelpa (talk) 11:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

women's / womens

Hi there! Is there any way you can stop LilHelpa "correcting" the Apostrophe article? In the context of that article, "womens" is not a mistake, it is being used deliberately as an example, so I keep having to "uncorrect" LilHelpa's changes. Sorry about this, I imagine it isn't easy. Thanks, Awien (talk) 22:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Yipes! Will do. LilHelpa (talk) 13:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! And thanks also for fixing a "the the" I perpretrated recently . . . oops! Awien (talk) 16:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Btw, I apologise for confusing the person and the bot - hi, person! Awien (talk) 16:15, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi :) LilHelpa (talk) 18:04, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Revision to Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire and Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri articles

I noticed that you have revised either Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri or Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire. I intend to revise those articles following the Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines. There are more details on the discussion pages of those articles. I'd be interested in any comments you have. It would be best if your comments were on the discussion pages of the two articles. Thank you. Vyeh (talk) 16:10, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Italics in the cite web template

Hi. Regarding this edit to Saw VI yesterday. The italics are used within the "work=" parameter of {{cite web}} so that the website will not be italicized, since the template automatically italicized the contents in the "work" parameter. So using the italic marks will not render them italicized. Most of the websites shouldn't be italicized, unless they are magazines, etc. Just thought I'll let you know. :-) Mike Allen 07:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Well...both cite news and cite web templates. Hmmm... it was an AWB suggestion. Will refer to there. Thanks. LilHelpa (talk) 17:35, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Windmills in Leeuwarden

Thanks for the cleanup. However, the piped link to Old Mill was intentional. The reason is to stop Wildbot tagging the talk page as having a dablink. Mjroots (talk) 12:46, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Noted. Sorry and thanks. LilHelpa (talk) 17:35, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Mjroots (talk) 18:38, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Nina Boyle

Thanks for spotting the "the the" problem. Cheers, --Graham Lippiatt (talk) 14:32, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Cheers! LilHelpa (talk) 17:35, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Ben Bridwell

Hi - thanks for helping with the article. I notice you added the cat "1977 births" - do you have the exact DOB? Regards, IAN. Iangurteen (talk) 13:59, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

I do not have it and shouldn't have made that edit suggested by AWB: I reverted the change. LilHelpa (talk) 14:05, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Growth factors vs growth factor-s

Hi, regarding [| this edit] I am wondering if it was intentional to move the plural ending out of the brackets and what the rationale is? I would sure love to save some typing work but thought it looks nicer the other way and also there are other instances that were not changed, so it should be at last done uniformly. Thanks Richiez (talk) 21:59, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

The edit to which you refer is suggested by AWB and one I typically go along with. It doesn't result in any visible change to the article, but saves file space, makes source code easier to read, and, as you point out, is easier to type. See Wikipedia:Wikilink#piped_links. -- LilHelpa (talk) 22:14, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Smile!

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Set Sail For The Seven Seas 351° 31' 0" NET 23:26, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Please stop mangling references

You just mangled a bunch of refs in the Singapore article, with <ref>http://foo/bar</ref> turning into <ref name="foo"/>. See [1]. Jpatokal (talk) 01:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry, misread the diff -- I didn't realize the refs were dupes. Jpatokal (talk) 12:23, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Do your AWB voodoo

Could you do your AWB voodoo on the Jordan River (Utah) page. You did it awhile back, but it has undergone alot of revisions. I'm going to be submitting it for FA soon. Thank You. Bgwhite (talk) 06:11, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Pretty clean. I think I found more than AWB did. Nice work. LilHelpa (talk) 13:30, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

thanks!

Hi, thank you for cleaning up my recent additions to the Natural Law article; I appreciate it! --Other Choices (talk) 11:55, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help. LilHelpa (talk) 12:55, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Undo edit to Arkansas Army National Guard

Please undo the edits to Arkansas Army National Guard where you replaced inch with (8 in), For some reason AWB seems to do this a lot. The reference to 8 in or 8 inch is a description of the caliber of artillery issued to a particular unit. All your other revisions are greatly appreciated, but this one needs to be corrected. Thanks. Damon.cluck (talk) 15:33, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

I made the change you requested and threw in a bonus copy edit. I appreciate your educating me on this. It's still a bit confusing to me with some guns seemingly 9mm, not 9 mm and what seems like it should be 8-inch at 8 inch. - LilHelpa (talk) 17:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, your right, we are not consistant in the we refer to various howitzers, but the british are worse, they still refer to "pounds" Damon.cluck (talk) 04:19, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

LilHelpa Day

(see award archive: User talk:LilHelpa/awards For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations on this one, and enjoy your day. MarmadukePercy (talk) 02:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. I was away, thus the late response. --LilHelpa (talk) 23:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Trackers Task Force

I hope to be of further help, but will not be joining the task force. Thanks for the invitation. LilHelpa (talk) 23:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Bach cantatas

Hi lilHelpa, two cantatas are ok for DYK this week, + a singer: Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben, BWV 147 + [Ursula Buckel]] and a new one: Wer nur den lieben Gott läßt walten, BWV 93. More to come, planning one a week, - Bach's pace, smile, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Next: Julia Hamari in Vergnügte Ruh, beliebte Seelenlust, BWV 170, wishing you what the title says, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Gerda, I was Internetless without leave. It is going to take me a few more days to get back to things here. LilHelpa (talk) 23:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem, take your time. Ursula Buckel was "on" last Sunday, Friday will be ensemble amarcord, Sunday Julia Hamari, nominated Camilla Tilling (don't miss pics) and Ärgre dich, o Seele, nicht, BWV 186. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the soprano (almost simultaneously with her approval)! Next Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht, BWV 134a, then a Reger composition, but that needs more work. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Great edit on the Mega Drive

Thank you very much for that help! : )--SexyKick 07:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Spelling errors in 2006 Zoufftgen train collision‎

Thanks for fixing the spelling errors ("occured") in 2006 Zoufftgen train collision‎. (And others elsewhere). I'm quite a good speller, but this is one that I always get wrong.

It's a pity, though, that AWB doesn't distinguish between a typo and a spelling error on its edit summaries. (Or perhaps just some users of that tool don't; I don't use it). This was a spelling error, but I personally find it a bit finger-pointy when a silly typo is marked as a spelling error. Si Trew (talk) 11:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

AWB doesn't make judgements as to the summary line. Users choose one of the standard ones or customize it whenever they feel necessary. I try to keep mine general so I don't have to spend time changing it. Usually I am chasing the same error, but other corrections are made in addition. LilHelpa (talk) 11:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

By the way, this is clearly one of the most common spelling errors. LilHelpa (talk) 11:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I need your help =)

Hey, I see that you seem to be the spelling master ;) ! I was wondering if you could look at some articles I ave rewrite to makes sure all the spelling is in order?! Let me know if you can and then I'll get back to you Monsieur le Duc --LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 14:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

If you promise not to overload me, I'd be pleased to help. LilHelpa (talk) 14:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for your help with the article Canis lupus dingo!Chrisrus (talk) 05:53, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Proposed change to "Minor edits" preference

This change is going to make your life more difficult, I'm afraid. You may want to leave a comment there.

I made a thousand "the the" corrections recently, but that was with AWB, which will not be affected by this change to the preferences. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm very interested to know about the "the the" corrections. Glad someone else is on it. -LilHelpa (talk) 22:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Reger Requiem

Please - but only if you feel strong, this is serious, smile: Requiem (Reger) for DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Serious indeed. :) --LilHelpa (talk) 11:21, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I reviewed the above requests that I had "neglected". Most were clean. Stay cool. --LilHelpa (talk) 11:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you again! Two hills after the mountain: Patrick Van Goethem and BWV 136, if you like, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Too clean for me! --LilHelpa (talk) 11:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

How about Marcus Ullmann then? (approved already - the Requiem really look nice on the Main Page. Will sing it in August.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Gave it the once-over. Are you a soprano? --LilHelpa (talk) 01:12, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! No, I'm an alto, singing soprano only if soprano is divided and alto not, a matter of math, smile, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Leonardo da Vinci

When you do your much welcomed li'l helps, could you make a point of checking the edits prior to your own, in protected articles. If you don't remove the vandalism or whatever, it becomes set in cement and may not be found unless someone rigorous checks every edit since their own last edit.

Some twit without a name has well-meaningly added a little tag to the sentence that says that there has been speculation over Leonardo's sexuality since the 16th century. They added "although there is no hard evidence that he was a sodomite". OK.... there is absolutely no "hard evidence" that he wasn't a sodomite, either. In other words, the addition is, in encyclopedic terms, a total "non-fact".

However, it is a "non-fact" that opens a huge can of worms. When I first started editting this article it was swamped by a huge section, all with multiple references, on Leonardo's suspected pederasty. ....and as this editor has pointed out, with "no hard evidence". The article, at that time, included nothing about his paintings, except mentioning the Mona Lisa and Last Supper.

The aim within the article, as it stand, is to acknowledge that his sexuality is indeed a matter of speculation. (That there is speculation is a "hard fact".) The convolutions of speculation have been removed to the page on his private life. Other stuffs that goes on the "Personal life" page are speculative Arab ancestory, fingerprint reconstructions, vegetarianism, left-handedness, speculated alchemy, speculated heresy, possible author of Voynich manuscript etc etc. There is a separate page for SCience and another page for popular representation (Dan Brown, Ninja Turtles etc etc). I created them all to separate what we really know from what we don't.

Meanwhile, any mindless addition needs deleting, rather than sanctioning. Amandajm (talk) 04:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Though I think I understand your point regarding "cementing" and sanctioning of prior edits, of course neither is strictly true. Thanks for bringing this matter to my attention. --LilHelpa (talk) 10:58, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The reason why is because

This is my pet peeve. Is it ever better to say "the reason why is" instead of :"the reason is" or just "because"? Just a thought. Keep up the great work!Chrisrus (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Heh. Pretty good peeve in my opinion. I might just go correcting that. --LilHelpa (talk) 13:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Vernon Dobson

Thanks for fixing the citations! Lotta help from LilHelpa! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.192.250.17 (talk) 16:18, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks. My pleasure. --LilHelpa (talk) 16:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Fixativeness

Thanks for the correction! Also, I would be remiss in my idiotic duties not to mention The The! :p Billkwando (talk) 20:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Arrggh... that group makes my wikilife a little tougher. --LilHelpa (talk) 20:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I had a feeling!! LOL :) Billkwando (talk) 20:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Do you have any idea how many times, and on how many articles you have corrected my "the thes"? You know you are hopeless when you stammer while writing. --Ishtar456 (talk) 00:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

No idea as I generally do not trace them to a contributor. I've noticed what seems like a lot in math articles. Is that you? --LilHelpa (talk) 01:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

No, I don't do math. I mostly do bios, but lately I'm doing Steamtown. You caught a lot of them there. Thanks.--Ishtar456 (talk) 04:10, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

When "the the" isn't a mistake

I remember somewhere seeing you comment that "the the" is almost always a mistake. I'm curious what exceptions have you found? I know that there's a band called The The, but is that all? I was thinking there might be something like "the The Hulk...", but I don't think that'd ever be correct, would it? Because if you could say "the The Rolling Stones concert was great...", wouldn't you therefore be able to say "the The The concert was great..."Chrisrus (talk) 04:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you could say that. What I meant was "the the" (as opposed to "the The") is almost always a mistake. Unless you are referring to the word "the" as in, "The "the" in Sonic the Hedgehog first appeared in..." Usage of "the The" is found frequently (and is frequently wrong) and can be correct in the case of things like "They published the The Rolling Stones DVD box set". Often those can be reworded to sound less awkward – perhaps "They published a DVD box set of songs by The Rolling Stones.

To test whether it is correct I substitute (in this case) a group without the "the" at the start of its name. Thus, "They published the Aerosmith DVD box set" or "they published the Coldplay DVD box set" both are fine.

There are probably other less common times, but they are mostly constructed. I planned on writing this all in a subpage, but as usual, I would rather do corrections :) --LilHelpa (talk) 11:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanx for correcting "the the" on the Traiger page.Mwinog2777 (talk) 01:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

analog or analogue

Hi lilHelpa,

I am not a native speaker of English and I sometimes make spelling mistakes. Thanks for your contribution. Can you please help me in one word from technology ? Which is more appropriate; analog or analogue ? Have a nice day. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:58, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi. The "analog" spelling is American English and the "analogue" is British. Either is OK, but you should be consistent with the type of spelling you use. --LilHelpa (talk) 10:50, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

wp:fix

hi there! Speaking of corrections, could you 'come back' for a bit on the WP:FIX? I typically only do it once a month, so that would be great! Thank you! :) Sct72 (talk) 03:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually I've been on it pretty much non-stop doing "the the" for the last four months (except for a two-week break). I estimate at least 75 corrections per day just on that error alone. --LilHelpa (talk) 10:51, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you very much for the work on this project! Sct72 (talk) 02:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Nordwestdeutsche Philharmonie conductors

Just in case you want music between the the thes, Nordwestdeutsche Philharmonie conductors Rolf Agop, Wilhelm Schüchter, Erich Bergel, János Kulka, Alun Francis and Toshiyuki Kamioka. I wrote them in haste, the other way round, Kamioka first, I mean. The famous Andris Nelsons was there before me, of course. All to be improved later, but I will be off for some days. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Hope to get to it tonite. If not, then tomorrow or Monday. --LilHelpa (talk) 11:12, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for all these men! Schüchter nom for DYK, it was too late for the others after the trip, the orchestra was on yesterday. (My brother is one of their players, and in addition to Nelsons I included my favourite concerts since you looked, smile.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure as always. LilHelpa (talk) 16:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

General strike against Leopold III of Belgium (spelling)

Simply thank you for your help! José Fontaine (talk) 11:53, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks. LilHelpa (talk) 18:09, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks very much for your help with the Blackadder Goes Forth article, amongst the thousands of other contributions spellchecking articles. They're very much appreciated. Bob talk 16:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Nice to know. Thanks. LilHelpa (talk) 18:09, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Another thanks for your help with the references at Srebrenica Genocide. I'm pretty inconsistent - I lose track of what I'm doing with the references just get out of control while I'm concentrating on trying to integrate the content, too little brain space to fit the two operations in together. I really appreciate your tidying up my mess. Opbeith (talk) 10:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I have that problem, too. It's difficult to juggle it all. Keep up the good work. --LilHelpa (talk) 10:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

good work!

Hello, I came here via the "the the" correction you made on Austrian School. I am charmed by your objectives. This is now my top example for "improving the world one step at a time"! N6n (talk) 14:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Heh heh. Well, I like to think it's better than tilting at windmills ;) _LilHelpa (talk) 16:06, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit to Hyperion cruiser (Babylon 5)

Hi, About the changes you recently made to the article for the Hyperion heavy cruiser. I don’t understand your reasoning for requesting a citation on some fans thinking the bridge is exposed. Let alone naming one of them!! A bit difficult as folks don’t tend to use their actual names on such things.

A simple google will provide any interested reader with an example of fans discussing the design and expressing what the article states. For example “Babylon 5, Hyperion, exposed bridge;” brings up this discussion. (more detailed searches will, of course, bring up many more) http://www.firstones.com/forums/showthread.php?p=68929

I was under the impression that using discussion forums in such ways is, if not frowned upon, at least not encouraged within wikipedia.

I will remove your request for a name and citation as it seems unreasonable. But, if you feel that such additions are valid and germane, now that I have provided you with a relevant example you can, rather than reinstating the request, provide a link to the above forum discussion yourself and name any of those involved. Though personally I feel it’s a bit of overkill and will most likely be removed by another editor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.116.61 (talk) 21:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Uh yeah. Those requests for citation were not mine. I merely reformatted one of them. I do think it's a little weak to say, "some fans think" such and such. There's always some fans thinking something or other isn't there? Anyhow, that's something for you and whoever else cares to dispute. --LilHelpa (talk) 01:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah. That’s what happens when you don’t read both sides of the edit isn’t it. My apologies. ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.116.61 (talk) 11:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Another Thanks

...for fixing a typo on my recent article! It's much appreciated. Keep up the great work! JonnyNYC90 (talk) 18:06, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the acknowledgement! --LilHelpa (talk) 18:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Burl Ives#Hit Singles and <small>

Your recent change removed the <small...</small> tags in the table entry for "On Top of Old Smokey", for no apparent reason. I would have put them back, but if this is an AWB glitch, you might want to be aware of it. --LCE(LCE talk contribs) 10:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

AWB goes after this in all cases I think. I will have to check and see if it is in the Manual of Style. HTML is discouraged in general, but I'm not sure if there is a specific guideline on this. --LilHelpa (talk) 10:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

IIRC, <small> and <big> are recommended (somewhere) over the "font-size" commands. I'm interested to know what you find. Note that if you select Advanced on the editing controls, the A- button generates <small> --LCE(LCE talk contribs) 13:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm.. OK... I think what is happening is that the revision here operates by removing the <small...</small> tags when it finds an unmatched pair between two other pairs, removing one every time AWB passes by. (I don't have AWB available right now, so can't test that.) Will throw it up for discussion. Glad you noted this to me, thanks! ... wish I knew where else I'd done it. --LilHelpa (talk) 15:01, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, nice catch! (x2!) Based on the explanation at your ref, the tags in Ives would have been "inside" the tag with the missing close-tag (your finding that one was the second nice catch). But AWB is not doing what the display logic does: assume a missing close-tag at the end of something (table cell, line, paragraph). Consequently, AWB is diagnosing (and mal-fixing!) the wrong error. If your later checking bears this out, it is definitely complaint-worthy. Error-fixing tools should not be creating errors.

There may be another subtle error in AWB, or it might be deliberate. It seems that the scan for enclosed tags stops after finding an enclosed end-tag, but that tag is removed. I would expect that either (a) only an enclosed start-tag is removed, or (b) the scan would continue to an unmatched end-tag — in this case, removing every start-end pair to the end of the article. --LCE(LCE talk contribs) 18:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

I suspect it looks to find only one and that the script needs refinement. "Discussion" is ongoing here. --LilHelpa (talk) 18:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Music in Dortmund

If you like, visit Theater Dortmund. Also new: BWV 179 with a long name. And Walter Fink, birthday child of August 16. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Birthday was celebrated well (my greatest hit so far). Next: Ignace Michiels, if you like to travel to Bruges - worth a trip any time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Glad for your success! Will move to Ignace. Still working on my first trip to Europe - perhaps will never make it--LilHelpa (talk) 10:28, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

More success: Theater Dortmund was my first DYK with a picture. Would you like to visit Opernhaus Dortmund? Listen to In convertendo Dominus by Jules Van Nuffel? Powerful piece, will sing it in Wiesbaden next Sunday and in Bruges a week later! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Connie Smith

I really appreciate your help in fixing the typos I made in the Connie Smith article. You're really helping me a lot. ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 14:48, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Good to hear! --LilHelpa (talk) 10:28, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Copy edit...

Thanks for the St Briavels Castle help! Hchc2009 (talk) 16:33, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. LilHelpa (talk) 10:28, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

oh, ok, thanks for the improvements regulation s-k

Reg C Handford (talk) 08:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

love the enthusiasm! thanks! --LilHelpa (talk) 10:28, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Kalevala#History

Hello sir (or are you a madam?) Well that is neither here nor there. ANYWAY. In this particular part of the section you made the following change:

Väinämöisestä (Concerning Väinämöinen) -> Väinämöisestä (concerning Väinämöinen)

If the article Väinämöisestä was in fact an English one, it would be called Concerning Väinämöinen. As it's an article title (albeit translated) wouldn't the 1st c in concerning be a capital?

Sorry to disturb you. Cheers. --Lakkasuo (talk) 16:35, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

BTW, I would like to thank you for the numerous corrections you made. I don't want you to think I'm not grateful for that. --Lakkasuo (talk) 16:36, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

ooh.. you are certainly correct. I had not understood it that way. LilHelpa (talk) 16:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

No worries, a 'pedian like yourself is certainly allowed a couple of slips. Take it easy and keep fighting the the good fight ... ;)

--Lakkasuo (talk) 20:30, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I enjoyed the article very much. LilHelpa (talk) 13:33, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Please be careful

Please be careful and triple check what you do with AWB throughly as you recently edited: List of historic tropical cyclone names and in good faith caused a bit of sub vandalism by changing several names that were correctly spelt. I have fixed the parts you changed that were it now but thought id best bring this to your attention. Thanks.Jason Rees (talk) 21:47, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Ack. So that article finally got me. Thanks for the notice. I included some warnings to wake me up for the next time through.

LilHelpa (talk) 22:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Bhurshut

Why did editor Moonriddengirl ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Moonriddengirl#Bhurshut ) delete the rewritten post which had no copyright problem? Elsewhere you say there is no issues if the article was rewritten and so was it done to avoid any possible copyright violation. Till it was deleted by Moonriddengirl and so you are requested to restore the latest rewritten version ignoring any personal issues which Moonriddengirl seems to have regarding this article! 117.254.79.182 (talk) 07:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I've replied to this at User talk:Moonriddengirl#Bhurshut (moved from your user page). --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)