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Deletion discussion about Cowboy Songs, Volume 2 (Bing Crosby album)

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Help me!

Please help me with an incorrect page title I have just set up. It's Bing Crosby Sings the Songs Hits from Broadway Shows and it should read Song not Songs. How can I correct this?

MACWILMSLO (talk) 16:26, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi MACWILMSLO, I've moved the page accordingly. You can now find it at Bing Crosby Sings the Song Hits from Broadway Shows. Cheers! /wia /tlk 16:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

When the Blue of Your Links Meets the Gold of Your Edits

Thank you so much for your exemplary contributions to Bing's recorded legacy. He has been neglected for too many years on here! Gareth E Kegg (talk) 20:55, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Kind of you Gareth. It's a labour of love for me. I wrote a book about Bing some years ago. Malcolm Macfarlane MACWILMSLO (talk) 08:12, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

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Judd Conlon

Was the text you added to the Judd Conlon article taken from Bing Magazine? 32.218.34.136 (talk) 20:26, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes. I am the Editor of BING magazine but I could re-write it in my own words if this is preferable. please advise.MACWILMSLO (talk) 23:22, 2 December 2015 (UTC)MACWILMSLO

It's not only preferable, it's mandatory. Wikipedia does not accept copyrighted text cut and pasted from other sources. You can learn more about WP's copyright policy here, here, here, and here. If you have written any of the material you've copied from BING, you can donate it to Wikipedia by following the procedures here.

It looks like other material you've added to Wikipedia (e.g., [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]) may also have been lifted from other sources. If so, all must be rewritten in your own words.

It's great that you're interested in contributing to Wikipedia, but cut and paste jobs are totally unacceptable. 32.218.34.136 (talk) 00:20, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your guidance. I'll get re-writing asap.MACWILMSLO (talk) 07:18, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

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Suggestions for possible additional resources

After reading about your interest in Bing Crosby, I'm suggesting some resources that might be useful.

If you go to User:Teblick/Online Resources for Old-Time Radio Research and scroll to the "Searches of old publications related to radio" heading, you'll find links to three sites that contain archives of many publications related to radio, TV, and recordings. I use them often to find information about people and programs. You might want to search for Bing Crosby just to see what turns up.

By the way, I also posted a suggested source on Talk:Bing Crosby on Armed Forces Radio in World War II. Eddie Blick (talk) 14:51, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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I've been writing and editing on Wikipedia for two years, and I'm still learning about it. I'm glad to help if I can. Eddie Blick (talk) 19:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Really grateful for your guidance.

Do you have interests on Wikipedia other than Bing Crosby? Most of my work on Wikipedia relates to old-time radio and, to a lesser extent, old-time TV and film. Eddie Blick (talk) 19:38, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes. I have written books on Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney as well as Crosby. The research for these has taken me into other fields too. I am very interested in OTR. Will you be writing an article about GI Journal?

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I created Wikipedia's articles on GI Jive and Mail Call, but I'm not familiar with GI Journal. I don't know how much documentation is available on the program, but it's worth investigating, at least. Eddie Blick (talk) 14:49, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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Crosby, Columbo, and Vallee

I have removed the plot section from the above article, as it appears to have been copied from IMDb, a copyright website. — Diannaa (talk) 22:57, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Bing Crosby filmography

Similar to the previous comment, I have removed a section from Bing Crosby filmography which you appear to have copypasted from a fan website. Please see the guidelines on using text from other sources. Nick Number (talk) 15:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Nick. However I have been the Editor of BING magazine for 23 years and thought I was fairly safe in using my own material. The writer of the article - Keith Parkinson - was delighted to see it on Wikipedia. Please advise the best way forward.

Sure. Please take a look at the heading If I own the source, or work for the owner of the source, can I copy it to Wikipedia? on that guideline page. If you can release the material under a Wikipedia-compatible license, I would be glad to assist with incorporating it. Some minor style changes would be necessary, such as to the text size and capitalization, and minor adjustments to the tone, e.g. changing first-person language such as "we hear" to something more neutral. Nick Number (talk) 13:55, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks. I've read the guidance and would be happy to give Wikipedia a licence although I'm still not sure how to go about doing this. Would I be better off to re-write it?

I'm not a licensing expert, but it looks like the simplest method would be to post a copyleft notice on the page hosting the text. If you have further questions, there is a noticeboard for media copyright issues which should be helpful.

Regarding rewriting it, that would probably run afoul of close paraphrasing guidelines. Nick Number (talk) 18:52, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks again. Nick. I've put a copyleft notice below the section on the BING magazine web site and hope this will be ok. Can you reinstate the text please?

Sorry, I'm not seeing the notice. Should it be visible on the A-Z page? Or is it on another page of that site? Nick Number (talk) 14:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

It's below the entry for Crosby Voice in the A-Z. Is that OK?

Ah, ok, I see it now. That looks good. I will make some style changes to the text and restore it.

Incidentally, and this isn't a huge deal but makes things easier on other editors, it's customary to sign Talk page messages by putting four tildes (~~~~) after your comment. This automatically adds your username and a timestamp. Nick Number (talk) 14:55, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Nick. I'm still learning.MACWILMSLO (talk) 15:00, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok, done. I added links to the films and excised a lot of material which does not pertain to the songs. Even so this is a large amount of text for an encyclopedia article. I can't guarantee that another editor won't come along and want to shorten it further, but I think it has a reasonable chance of staying. Nick Number (talk) 19:29, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks, Nick. You've done a great job. I might change some of the "Bing's" to "Crosby's" and there may be a link or two I can add.MACWILMSLO (talk) 06:09, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Cowboy Songs, Vol. Two (Bing Crosby album)

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http://www.stevenlewis.info/crosby/diaryintro.htm

Bit confused Doc. I am Malcolm Macfarlane and I allowed Steven Lewis to use my material.MACWILMSLO (talk) 05:40, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Have now sent required email to Permissions. MACWILMSLO (talk) 06:38, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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It was my own original text. I have now given Wikipedia permission to use it.

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Procedural decline. Already unblocked by Doc James. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:17, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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Need an explanation regarding what is going on. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:57, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Some of the songs I edited yesterday did not have details of Bing Crosby's chart successes so I added them.MACWILMSLO (talk) 05:44, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Doc James: What exactly is going on here? Can you provide diffs of copyright violations so that I can review them? Vanjagenije (talk) 20:27, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
  • User talk:Vanjagenije The concerning url that was copied from was linked in the section above [8]. Appears this user is the copyright holder of that text. They are now sending permissions to OTRS. So likely problem solved and I have unblocked. Would need to look further to pull the exact diff. Currently travelling. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:48, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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Many thanks for that. I was not aware of this. However I have to say that I find imdb to be very accurate most of the time nowadays. Does the policy need updating? (MACWILMSLO)

Many aspects of it are accurate...unfortunately, many aspects of it also fall under WP:SPS. Best to provide another source wherever possible, especially if the information isn't particularly basic (principal actors in a film, for instance). In this particular case though, IMDb isn't a third-party source that can be used to establish that the usage of the song you cited is particularly significant, as discussed at WP:IPCV. We need a source that not only establishes that the song is used in the film, but that someone took note of it. Or, as I like to think of it, we not only need to prove that the tree fell in the woods, but that somebody heard it fall. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 15:44, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

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Bit confused by you saying that the Crosby version is uncited. Desn't the link provide the citation.(talk) 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Ah, you don't know about that. Right then: this is important, as you can't safely edit Wikipedia without understanding it. Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source, because like many wikis, anyone can edit it. We rely instead on verifiable published sources which we trust - not blogs generally, not wikis or forums or social media; but textbooks, peer-reviewed papers, major newspapers and journals. The text at the other end of a wikilink may be right one minute, wrong the next: and crucially, nobody could know without checking, against reliable sources – much easier if the references are in place, but essential whether they are or aren't. A wikilink offers further reading, possibly reliable; a citation to a reliable and verifiable source is something different altogether. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:53, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks for that. I've re-entered it with a citation. This is the same citation on the linked page. Is this OK?

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	Love the links you are adding for old music. I hope you might link to the 78's on archive.org. -brewster (brewster@archive.org) Brewsterkahle (talk) 18:06, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

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Sent an email introducting the Great78Project.org and wondered if you might link to the recordings on archive.org ( https://archive.org/details/georgeblood )

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Hi MACWILMSLO, I'm glad to see that you are still active on Wikipedia! In your edit of 10:30, 30 July 2015 of Fancy Meeting You Here, you inserted two references that used the magazine names (Variety and Billboard) as the article titles also. I changed the article titles to "unknown" to spotlight the issue. Kindly insert the actual article titles. —Anomalocaris (talk) 07:07, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing Fancy Meeting You Here. Would you please fix the similar problems with Phillip Crosby, which you introduced in one or more of your edits of 18 July 2015‎? This time I changed the article titles to "unk". —Anomalocaris (talk) 20:24, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Duly fixed. MACWILMSLO (talk) 07:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Good work. URLs would be helpful if they are available. At some point, you might want to make a project of reviewing your edits from the time when you were using magazine names instead of article titles in the title parameter and systematically fixing them. In any case, thank you for your prompt attention to Phillip Crosby. —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:47, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

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