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Help me![edit]

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Someone keeps deleting my edit. I added a "controversy" section to the Art of Fielding (book) page. This seems fairly standard on Wikipedia. Several people reviewed it and made minor tweaks to it, then someone deleted it. I sent them a message and waited 2 weeks. They didn't respond, so I 'und[id]' the deletion. The same person then deleted the section again.

I suspect they work for the publisher of this book or the author. I don't care that much about this, so happy to drop it, but it is sort of becoming a matter of principle.

Macdad7123 (talk) 18:28, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The reference you added is not a reliable third-party source, but rather what amounts to a self-published pamphlet not subject to meaningful editorial oversight. That's not a sufficient basis to declare there's a "controversy". Have newspapers or reputable magazines reported on the issue? Then summarize what those sources report, and cite those independent sources, not just Green himself. Huon (talk) 19:43, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 2020[edit]

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or promotion. From your contributions, this seems to be your only purpose.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  MER-C 14:56, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Macdad7123 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I am absolutely not being paid to promote anyone. I am a CFO at a tech company. Totally ridiculous. (1) I am a huge soccer fan. I added Tim Ream's salary to his wiki. Someone keeps deleting my comments. I think it is newsworthy that Americans can get rich playing soccer now - in the past MLS was the only opportunity and it was shitty pay. (2) I have had friends that have wiki pages that got rejected. I have "cleaned up" their pages as a favor by eliminating "puffery" and adding citations. (3) I added something to Rick Sylvester's profile because I saw his stunt in a James Bond movie and read up on him. I don't know Mr. Sylvester, Mr. Ream, etc. I don't know anyone that knows them or works with them. I never got paid anything by, nor asked for anything from anyone for writing on wiki or anywhere else. In my "day job" I get paid way, way more than a publicist :) I do this for fun.

Decline reason:

Being unblocked will involve you agreeing to comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID once unblocked, you agreeing to not edit about your company or anything related to your conflict of interest, and telling what topics you will edit about instead. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 23:16, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


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What is your connection to TenantBase? Is that the company you are the CFO for? 331dot (talk) 19:37, 2 May 2020 (UTC) Yes! I joined there at the end of March. I was told the wiki page had been taken down. I tried to rewrite it without any press / puffery. What is wrong with the contribution? I would like some clear criticism. I am definitely not a publicist or paid to do this; just trying to be helpful. I checked my contributions. In addition to Tim Ream and Rick Sylvester, I added some news about Rima Khalaf. She was an UN official. This was just something I was watching on CNN about a conflict between the USGov and UN. I really don't think I should have to justify all this. What is wrong with any of these posts? Please be specific on each one. The Tim Ream one seems particularly contentious. I honestly don't get what is wrong with it.Macdad7123[reply]

Please read WP:COI and WP:PAID. As an employee of the company you have to comply with WP:PAID even if you are not being paid directly to edit the page about the company you work for. Tknifton (talk) 21:39, 2 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

I am asking for the third time. Please give me specific criticisms of these posts. Sending flippant links is just rude. Re: TenantBase. I am a senior person at this company. In no sense is someone paying me to edit their wiki page. There was an existing post that I cleaned up / improved. There are many, many tech niches not covered on wiki. Here are several fairly new niches that ARE covered (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_(software), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZipRecruiter, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesity). Are you saying these posts came into being without anyone with inside knowledge posting them?

You're an employee of the company you need to comply with WP:PAID and WP:COI (both of which are policies) regardless of whether you are being paid directly to edit the wikipedia article. Tknifton (talk) 22:03, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And to answer your question about the other articles, they were not created or edited by employees of the company, even if they were it wouldn't help you as they would also be in violation of wiki policies and thus would be deleted if they were. Tknifton (talk) 22:06, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy to flag the article as WP:PAID, COI or both, but Mer-C still has me blocked. Also, if you really want to go down this path of banning tech contributions, go to TechCrunch, choose some random tech company, then check it's WIKI. Outside the very large public companies, most WIKIs have inside knowledge.

Most company wiki articles don't have inside knowledge they may have references to the company website but all statements are referenced not "inside knowledge". If you find any not referenced please remove it for violating wiki policies. Tknifton (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Further, the company website may be cited but it does not contribute to notability, so any article heavily relying on primary sources does not meet wiki guidelines. Tknifton (talk) 22:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I already stated I am happy to comply w WP:COI and WP:PAID and not edit company pages. See my edits on sports (Tim Ream, Ben Wilson), politics (Rima Khalaf) for other interests. I don't have time to do pages from scratch; I thought I was improving a page here. Macdad7123

If you make another request, someone else will review it. 331dot (talk) 23:28, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Have read all rules and happy to comply. Please unblock. I have made many edits unrelated to my work

Decline reason:

Procedural decline only. This unblock request has been open for more than two weeks but has not proven sufficient for any reviewing administrator to take action. You are welcome to request a new block review if you substantially reword your request. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

  • the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
  • the block is no longer necessary because you
    1. understand what you have been blocked for,
    2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
    3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]


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Your draft article, Draft:TenantBase[edit]

Hello, Macdad7123. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "TenantBase".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:58, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]