User talk:Maudslay II

January 2021

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Thank you for creating Jean Talouzian.

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Bennv3771 (talk) 16:13, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Tony Frangieh Jr.

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Page moves

Hello, please stop moving pages without discussion. nableezy - 16:48, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

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Nomination of Zrarieh massacre for deletion

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Shrike (talk) 10:03, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

1RR

You have broken 1RR please revert yourself also calling WP:AGF edit as vandalism is violation of WP:NPA don't do it again --Shrike (talk) 13:12, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Free1Soul (talk) 11:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Also I reported you and the IP to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Maudslay II.Free1Soul (talk) 11:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Creating stubs that will be deleted

In creating Nabatieh Fawka massacre and the Maarakeh massacre, you are inviting editors to speedy delete them. One incident, poorly reported, cannot survive scrutiny in terms of wiki policies. They will be deleted eventually , so your only option to conserve these valid annotations of indiscriminate Israeli aggression is to create a list (i.e. along t5he lines of List of massacres in the Palestinian territories), namely ( List of Israeli massacres in Lebanon and include them there. Nishidani (talk) 12:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)‎

@Nishidani: I'm sure that they can be expanded, same as the Zrarieh article, which I was not expecting that it would get this big. There is a lot of details that covered in other sources. Even if it's now a stub, that dosen't mean it would be deleted. -- Maudslay II (talk) 12:07, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

The Zrarieh article survived because one editor fixed it. No editors other than yourself are going to work the other two articles. If you know of a dozen sources for each of these articles, the majority in English, the default source for enwiki, by all means rapidly show they can be significantly expanded. I've examined sources for both and they are extremely limited, and I certainly haven't time to do others. There is a mass of information that is never used for this period: things like the economic war Israel waged to flood the Lebanese market with Israeli and Gazan agricultural produce and by price cutting cause the Lebanese sector it competed with to collapse. Much of the bombing hit industrial plants that were also competitive with Israel. And editors rarely note or know or add this kind of important detail, because it isn't sexy. Yet you can find lots of academic studies in English on the topics. Rather than test wiki's capacities to support the memorializing of the dead, the really important information for readers wanting to know what happened lies in those other areas. I haven't a source for it, but I am fairly certain that a good deal of the Shiite hostility was enflamed by such deflationary economic disturbances, as much as by the systematic barbarity of Israeli military operations. Zrarieh was an important centre for such produce.Nishidani (talk) 12:40, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

@Nishidani: I'm willing to work the other two, and I tried to expand Nabatieh Fawka massacre, there's still room for more. -- Maudslay II (talk) 14:29, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

This is why FOARP has created the Iron Fist page, to include all those incidents that incurred in that period, do you see? It's OK to drill down but not if you lose focus. So if you start at here that's where Iron Fist also starts (officially) and Zrarieh is mentioned but not Maarakeh. I would look at expanding that section there at a higher level of detail first and only then consider what is worth a separate article. Same thing mention Qana but not Nabatieh Fawka.Selfstudier (talk) 13:16, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Maudslay (that handle sounds like an English/Arabic portmanteau by the way). Selfstudier and FOARP are correct: these incidents will inevitably be registered on the Iron Fist page. If then, you find an abundance of material to expand them, they can then become independent main pages. You are approaching this from the wrong end.Nishidani (talk) 15:10, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

@Nishidani: Check Maarakeh massacre. Now maybe a general part of it will be covered in iron fist, and could be mentioned in South Lebanon conflict, there are other details such as (First raid-Hospital raid-Berri reaction-Israel statement-Berri interview link-Imgae) which has no place in both these articles. -- Maudslay II (talk) 15:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

That is a big improvement. It needs more details, but certainly is more stable than the stub.Nishidani (talk) 16:08, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Beit Hanan

Your del refers to the bus attack, I think in the wrong place?Selfstudier (talk) 13:55, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

@Selfstudier: I think per WP:AFD you can do multiple proposed deletions in one discussion if they're related? -- Maudslay II (talk) 14:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Idk, you seem to have two separate discussions saying the same thing.Selfstudier (talk) 14:19, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Recent moves

I have noticed that you moved a number of "x of the Arab League" articles to "x of the Arab World". The undiscussed moves are not a problem per se (though others may disagree and I haven't checked properly), but from what I can tell, you haven't adjusted the content accordingly. So now we have articles, such as this, whose titles do not match the content. This is obviously a problem that needs to be addressed asap. M.Bitton (talk) 17:31, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Deir Yassin pictures

I have seen for years pictures circulating on the net, allegedly of the Deir Yassin massacre, but clearly taken of another massacre, years lates. The only genuine pictures of the aftermath are, AFAIK, are of the orphans (like this), taken of them after they came under the care of ms Hind Husseini. That is, there were pictures taken, but they are still being censored by Israel. The commons-category of Deir Yussein needs to be cleaned up, cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

"Maarakeh bombing" listed at Redirects for discussion

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1RR AGAIN

Please revert 1 Revert :[1] revert of [2]

2 Revert:[3] revert of [4] Its your second violation if you not revert yourself shortly you will be reported at WP:AE --Shrike (talk) 19:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

The first was pure vandalism, where he removed parts and moved the page without any discussion. The second was adding a template about a "hoax" because of a lack of sources, I added five sources. -- Maudslay II (talk) 19:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

As you wish we will ask admins if they agree with you.--Shrike (talk) 06:30, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

see [5] Shrike (talk) 07:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not discussing the merits of this Maudslay, but when in doubt, ask an expert or just revert. The essence of good editing is patience. As a token of good will you can still self-revert.Nishidani (talk) 09:13, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Fine. I did. -- Maudslay II (talk) 09:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

I reverted myself but the bot removed it here -- Maudslay II (talk)

Don't worry about the bot. All admins (and editors want is to see a readiness to play by the rules, admit error when one slips; don't argue with admins; try to avoid any sign of self-defensiveness; considerations of honour etc., and above all, exercise patience. In this area of Wikipedia you will encounter any number of editors who make 'moves' not to improve the text, but to test the other 'player', as if it were chess, rather than an encyclopedia. The aim if to checkmate the adversary, not to improve factual reportage. So it's a moral test, and the best solution is to embrace stringent standards for oneself, whatever the other editors may do.Nishidani (talk) 11:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

What Nishidani said- aka don't let the bastards grind you down.Selfstudier (talk) 12:11, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

By the way Maudslay, just as a matter of form (I see you are getting the 'treatment' today), I think you should just drop a note at the AE page, and briefly apologize for the revert. Pro forma. Otherwise it might appear that you are ignoring the matter. Nishidani (talk) 13:36, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Nabatieh Fawka massacre for deletion

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Hi Maudslay II, please use this topic ban as an opportunity to edit in less controversial topic areas. The policy on verifiability, policy against edit warring, and guideline on canvassing outline some of the expectations for editing on Wikipedia. You are welcome to file an appeal after making constructive contributions in other topic areas for a recommended minimum time period of six months. — Newslinger talk 12:14, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

• @Maudslay II: Your topic ban appeal has been declined, so the topic ban still applies, permalink. Johnuniq (talk) 03:37, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

User:Maudslayer

Hi, is there any reason why you have a new account? Did you forget the password of your previous account? Nehme₁₄₉₉ 15:09, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

yes -- Maudslay II (talk) 16:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Got it. I think it would be a good idea to show it in your userpage (just for clarity). Nehme₁₄₉₉ 14:42, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

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