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Your submission at Articles for creation: Mural of Sant Víctor de Saurí (April 15)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chaotic Enby was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Pretty close to being article-quality, however:

Many of the sources you use are primary or connected, and do not necessarily establish notability. The article should be less about Moix's intentions specifically, but should be a presentation built on secondary sources.
Unlike an essay, an encyclopedia doesn't have a conclusion-like section like your last one, which is close to synthesis/WP:OR and not necessarily relevant to the specific mural. If sources don't explicitly connect it to the topic, it generally shouldn't be there.
Conversely, there should be a lead describing what the mural is, and summarizing the key points of the article.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Maxpeiron! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have some questions about the reasoning for the rejection of my article. I feel like the sources I use are not just passing matters of the subject. They are articles or pages that talk explicitly about the mural in the church. Additionally, I am confused as to why they wouldn't be considered reliable sources.

You also made a comment on the sources not being independent of the subject, but reject the use of the scholarly articles because they are independent of the subject.

I would be very appreciative of your clarification. Maxpeiron (talk) 17:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did not reject the scholarly articles because they are independent, but because they don't talk about the subject. Ideally, we'd want sources that talk about the subject, but are independent of it, so their presentation of it would be neutral. A source that is connected to the subject (not independent) has an incentive in showcasing it in a particular way (e.g. promotion, subjective view, etc.), and is thus not considered reliable for this purpose. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Role Exchange (artwork) has been accepted[edit]

Role Exchange (artwork), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Stuartyeates (talk) 05:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]