User talk:Mayariebel

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Mayariebel (talk · contribs) has been paid by Brainsonic agency on behalf of Imerys. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mayariebel

MayaVR (talk) 12:38, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Mayariebel/sandbox[edit]

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A tag has been placed on User:Mayariebel/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:56, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure quite what you are trying to do since I deleted your sandbox which appeared to be on the same topic. Theoretically, you should seek approval for every edit, but if your changes are minor or uncontroversial, you will probably be OK. Some comments on Imerys, which I'm now watchlising

Not a good idea to list the board members etc by name, unless they have their own articles here, otherwise will soon be out of date. You give financials in the infobox, should be in the text with their refs too. Employee numbers are unsourced

the product use section is unsourced and promotional in tone eg contribute essential properties to customers’ products and their performance

A separate awards section is a sure sign of paid editing

Use more wikilinks

The tone is promotional, I'm going to go through and remove opinions and promo shortly Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I made these edits, some formatting, but mainly toning down. Not sure what you are asking abut formatting and referencing. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

December 2020[edit]

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Template:reflist-talk[edit]

On talk pages, you can use {{reflist-talk}} to show references since the most recent use of <references />, {{reflist}}, {{reflist-talk}}, or any similar "reference-listing" template. I have done this for you on Talk:Imerys.[1] davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 23:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you get the "notification"?[edit]

Wikipedia has a notification mechanism. If your preferences are set right, you should have received a notification when I made this edit to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Companies § Imerys because I included a template, {{U}}, that triggered a notification. Did you get the notification?

On an unrelated matter, when I rolled back the financials to the 2018 levels because there wasn't a reference for 2019's numbers, I deliberately didn't go back and use the 2019 financial report to update them.[2] Assuming someone else doesn't do it first, this would be a good chance make a simple, non-controversial {{requested edit}} that is almost certain to be honored. On the other hand, if the 2020 numbers are due out in the next few months, there's no real harm leaving the 2018 numbers there since they are clearly labeled with the year. Assuming nobody else makes the edit first, it's your call. I did see that some quarterly reports for 2020 are out, that kind of thing generally falls under the "too much detail, leave it out of the article entirely" category unless it's "notable in and of itself" or it related to or reflects a huge change to the company's structure or finances. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 19:06, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello (ETA) I did get the notification - then I went to look.

You're right in assuming there will be more asks, as I won't be the only COI on this project and others will take on the project in the future.

I'll resubmit the sections asap for cleaner sections. MayaVR (talk) 20:33, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah thanks for the heads-up on additional people - each with their own account - editing with the same employer and conflict of interest. When I said "there will be more asks" I was referring to edit requests by you over the next few days or weeks.

I want to commend you on your professionalism so far. Most of the "paid editors" we have either ignore the rules, or they comply at first but never "get" that Wikipedia is not a marketing tool and they wind up having their suggestions declined or, if they are so bold as to edit directly, have the edits reverted and, if this is repeated, have their account blocked. I can only imagine how frustrating this must be for them.

If you stick to just asking for out of date technical information like financials to be updated and pointing out things that are either unfair AND unreferenced or which are unfair AND whose references have been either officially retracted or superseded by equal- or better-quality references, and you understand that you will need to "live with" referenced but unflattering information, you will save yourself a lot of frustration.

You are also in a position to highlight some corporate history but only if it is actually encyclopedic and of general interest outside of the company. Someone in the company knows the major events in the company's history and which of those events 1) affected the world enough to be "encyclopedic" and 2) where the external, reliable sources such as newspaper accounts can be found. For example, did the company's mining efforts turn the tide in a major war effort? That would be encyclopedic. Did a major mineral find or technological innovation make a mineral much more available to industry in a way that changed the world in a huge way, like the technological changes to aluminum did in the 19th century? That is also encyclopedic. Was a former CEO awarded a very-high-level national award for work directly related to this company, such as an award war efforts during WWII that was given to only a handful of individuals? That's not as clear-cut but it might be worthy of bringing up and discussing. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 21:49, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Davidwr:, I also called upon the community in this page and piggybacked on your section Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Companies § Imerys to get help about the "promotional content" templates on the Imerys page. No luck yet. Are there other ways I can get these removed by asking peers to review the text? Thanks, I'm not well versed in all the practices yet. MayaVR (talk) 15:45, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I probably got the ping. I'm stepping back my Wikipedia activity somewhat. A note or {{requested edit}} template on the article's talk page is the first, best option. Asking on relevant WikiProject talk pages is a back-stop. For general questions, like the one you just asked me, using the {{Help}} template on your own talk page or the talk page of the article in question might work. Asking general questions at WP:TEAHOUSE also works. Only pick one method at a time though, and don't ask a question repeatedly once you get an answer, WP:Forum shopping is strongly discouraged. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]