User talk:Mecanismo/Archive 1

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August 2009

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at user talk:NawlinWiki. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. →javért ^chat 19:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

What is all that about...? Prodego ^talk 19:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Uh, yeah. I'd hate to think that you were a 4chan lemming and deliberately participated in an attack campaign. I'd rather think that someone compromised your account. Please let me know. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Samsung SGH-F250

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Speedy deletion nomination of Attention Deficit (band)

A tag has been placed on Attention Deficit (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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Removing Speedy at The Sugarman 3

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Speedy deletion nomination of The Sugarman 3

A tag has been placed on The Sugarman 3 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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Having tagged dozens, if not hundreds of articles about non-notable bands for speedy deletion, I am very familiar with notability requirements, thank you very much. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:24, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I repeat: I am very familiar with the notability requirements, and you have given us absolutely no evidence whatsoever that this band meets them. You've given us no more than an Allmusic reference, and that is by no means sufficient. You'd better start finding some reliable sources really quick, instead of spending your time trying to discredit me. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:30, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Sir: You are trying to evade the requirements that you supply references from independent, reliable sources to back up your assertion that this band is notable. Instead, you are engaging in personal attacks. If you continue, not only will your article be deleted, but you may face being blocked. Quit whining and get to work on the sources! - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:42, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

You have completely blown this out of proportion, and have evidently refused to provide any references to back up what you say. I am now reporting you to admins for further action, since nothing else seems to work. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 17:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

My reply is on the article talk page. I will confine any further discussion of this to that page, and request you do the same. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 21:24, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of The Sugarman 3

I have nominated The Sugarman 3, an article that you created, for deletion. It is doubtful if this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Sugarman 3. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. DGG ( talk ) 00:18, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I have also nominated their two records: Sugar's Boogaloo and Soul Donkey (at the same AfD discussion) This is not my usual subject, but I think they could best be discussed together. DGG ( talk ) 00:36, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Refs for Sugarman 3

You can thank User:Gongshow for finding the references to support the band's notability and posting them to the article. If you had done this yourself instead of getting so mad, this whole matter would have never gotten to this point, and I would've gladly removed the deletion notice. Next time, when someone tells you to come up with some references, do it and you'll save everyone a lot of trouble, including yourself. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 01:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Homeopathy

Hi. I've reverted your addition of the term "pseudoscience" in the first sentence of the lead. The presence of this word in the lead has been a highly contentious issue even within what is a highly contentious article; there has already been extensive discussion of this and the rest of the wording of the lead on the talk page (see the archives). The current wording already mentions the mainstream view of homoeopathy as pseudoscience or quackery, and while I don't necessarily disagree with this assessment a second use of the word seems a little excessive in the context of a lead. If you think it can be justified please discuss it on the talk page. Regards, Brunton (talk) 22:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

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July 2011

This is your only warning; if you move a page maliciously again, as you did at M39 cannon, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Discuss this but don't revert. But if you don't want to and you revert it again, be forewarned that a BLOCK is just around the corner. Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 18:32, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

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Pilatus PC-21

• This is about an edit of yours, which I've reverted on the abovementioned article page. Please be informed that DefenceTalk.Com is a forum and is considered as a self-published source, as such, any information extracted from it are usually not permissible for citations on Wikipedia. Also, the information you've added has cited the price of the deal with UAE Air Force, please do not misconstrue it to be the true unit price for the other two customers of Swiss Air Force and Republic of Singapore Air Force. Try to remember that different customers has different set of requirement for avionics/communications suite, these affect the unit prices directly. If you think that I've made an honest mistake, please tell me here so I can make any correction(s), thank you. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 13:32, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Regarding your comment about quoting DefenceTalk.Com, I agree that it was an oversight and that, with that under consideration, it wouldn't be a good idea to quote from it. Regarding quoting the price of the deal with UAE Air Force, your criticism isn't reasonable. Military equipment sales such as this one are always negotiated, and therefore don't correspond to a single fixed price nor fixed requirements. As the article fails to mention any vague reference to an approximate price which these planes go for, I don't believe that quoting a deal which did happen and is widely covered represents, as you've put it, a misinterpretation of the plane's price. In fact, it is quite the opposite: it's the most objective price which can be quoted, as it was the price which someone actually paid to get them -- Mecanismo | Talk 11:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

• Firstly, please try to keep our discussion in a single place so that it is easy to follow for the both of us. Secondly, whatever you have quoted above is your own interpretation, and not those of the Wikipedia (per WP:No original research#Synthesis of published material that advances a position). What say you bring this to the discussion page instead, so that you can get more inputs from other editors who can enlighten you further on that topic which I've tried to explained to you. Best. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 11:35, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Regarding where to post replies, posting them in your talk page, which is the standard way users communicate in wikipedia, ensures that you receive and follow the discussion. If I reply to myself by posting a reply on my own talk page then it can be a waste of time, as there is no guarantee that you will be notified.

Regarding your accusation of original research, I believe we can agree that a simple algebra operation doesn't count as original research or made up facts. If we can agree on this, we can also agree that if a source claims that someone purchased 25 planes for 500 million CHF then stating that the average unit price can be around 20 million CHF, which is a simple algebra operation, is also not original research.

Finally, wikipedia is not a monolithic entity nor a single person, only a loose association of users. As a consequence, wikipedia does not and cannot agree on anything. Adding to this, I'm sure you are aware of Wikipedia:Be bold, which doesn't list the implied the alleged authority of an abstract entity over a simple user as a deterrent. -- Mecanismo | Talk 13:16, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

• To be fair, you have all the right to argue all that you want but Wikipedia is not a democracy. Another thing, since I've started a conversation here so it is only logical that I've watchlisted your page in order to better reply you; hence, if you reply on my talk page you're making this discussion process scattered/fragmented, serves no real purpose at all. Finally, I'm done talking to you... it is fine if you want to be bold but please, the policy also says that you can be bold BUT NOT RECKLESS. As a sidenote, I've gotten an Admin to talk to you instead. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 23:57, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello Mecanismo I have been asked by Dave1185 to have a look at the issue around your PC-21 edit and his reversion. First thanks for not edit warring over it that always helps. His concern is that the figure of 20 million CHF each was made up (or original research) is valid, you said 500 divided by 25 gives around 20, true but the 500 figure is for a complete training system not just aircraft. The original source [1] says over 500 million so it is not an accurate figure to start with as for simulators it doesnt say how many or what type - a typical suite of military training simulators can be the same as one aircraft. It also mentions it included logistics support - not cheap either but doesnt say what kind of support, a full contractor logistic support package can be very expensive. So it would be reasonable to say that the UAE aircraft, training and support was bought for over 500 million the rest is just guess work. Also note it is best to keep discussions in one place although in this case it may have been better to use the article talk page. Unless you have any questions can we all move on now, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 09:27, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

LNP

Widely What? --BjKa (talk) 13:25, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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Disappearing information

Hi Mecanismo. Your last four edits of List of finite element software packages comprise only removal of items you seem to deem uncyclopaedic, but unfortunately they also seem to have caused the disappearing of otherwise very useful information, as several of the software packages mentioned there before, are not there anymore :/. Please edit items to meet standards instead of completely deleting them. 80.232.11.13 (talk) 17:11, 3 January 2012 (UTC) (ovikholt at gmail dot com)

How do I edit images uploaded to Wikipedia?

I've stumbled on File:Prestressed concrete en.svg, and the picture has some incorrections which I would like to fix. Yet, I don't know how to commit those changes to wikipedia's version. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks in advance --Mecanismo | Talk 18:43, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

The file is in Scalable Vector Graphics format, so first you will need the proper software to edit that file type. You'll also note that the file is not stored on the English Wikipedia - it is actually stored on Commons at commons:File:Prestressed concrete en.svg. Before attempting to update the file, though, you will need an account on commons and you should familiarize yourself with their unique rules and practices - see commons:Welcome. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 21:26, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

January 2012

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Removal of related information about the Coppersmith–Winograd algorithm from Feb 2012

Mecanismo,

First of all, I agree with the invisible reformatting of the page, a change which mediates visually convenient revision-comparisons. Based on the way you rephrased sentences, I sense that you have your own refined "canonical narrative style" when describing math-related topics. However, I feel that you have removed useful information regarding the technique used in Virginia William's proof. It so happens that I was at her job talk for Stanford, and that I read her paper.

I felt that my description of her approach (regarding optimization and tensor powers) is succinct and accurate, and provides the right intuition. I am very disappointed that you removed the material, in part because I spent much time choosing my words and omissions.

Please add some appropriate information about Williams' approach back to the page; I felt that her approach was non-traditional and warrants some description. It is also especially relevant to the approach taken by Coppersmith-Winograd. The information about Virginia Williams' approach does not have to be my original wording: I recognize that perhaps you are very committed to how you narrate.

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Multiplication in LaTeX

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Newton–Cotes formulas

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Proposed deletion of Schöneiche bei Berlin tramway

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