User talk:Metu Impact
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Amalthea 20:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Re: George Perez[edit]
If you want to make the change yourself, it's not hard. Just use the Move tab (should be up at the top of the page) and you can "move" an article to a new name. As long as you leave the "leave behind a redirect" box checked, the old page will redirect to this new one. I can do it for you if you prefer, but you might want to give it a try, just to see how it works. It might not hurt to ask others' opinions on the article's talk page first, but this isn't a huge change and probably wouldn't be very contentious. Plus it's not hard to change back if people object. - Vianello (Talk) 20:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, my mistake! I didn't even think about that. I'll take care of it in just a moment. - Vianello (Talk) 20:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Metu, and welcome to Wikipedia!
Let me say first that I am very impressed with the technical side of your first article, it's not often that I see a new user start an article with infobox, filmography table, and refererences.
However, the content needs some work I'm afraid. Most importantly, the text seems to come from http://www.actnowstudios.com/About_Me_.html and can't just be reused here. You have adapted it a little of course, but it's still so close that it has to be considered a copyright violation. That is, unless you actually own copyright of that text since you are George Perez? It would be possible to reuse the text in that case, but that would require a few additional steps. It would probably be easier to rewrite the text from scratch anyway due to some other issues: The text is not really written from a neutral point of view (small wonder, considering the source), and none of the facts from the article are actually sourced to a reliable source, only to the primary source of the topic's web page.
I see that Vianello has already taken care about the disambiguation and the hatnote, next time please try to only contact one editor, or otherwise centralize your questions.
Kind regards, Amalthea 20:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- George Perez is my friend. I'am from America but I live in Turkey. I started a page about George on tr.wikipedia.org and then, I decided to start a page about him on en.wikipedia.org. The article is the English version of Turkish Vikipedia's George Perez page. George let me to use his photos by sending an e-mail to info-tr@wikimedia.org . Can I upload and use that photos on this page? Thanks for your time and consideration. Metu Impact (talk) 20:54, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- I see. Concerning the text, the English article was so close to the text on his website that I can only conclude that the Turkish version was a translation to begin with. Compare
- "That same year he also appeared in his first break out role as the lead in Elton John’s music video, A Word in Spanish2, [1]
- with
- "That same year he also appeared in his first break out role as the lead in Elton John’s music video, “A Word in Spanish."", [2]
- Since you don't own copyright of the original text, and without the release under a compatible free license by the copyright owner it's imply impossible to keep that text on Wikipedia, I'm afraid, and I had to remove it. Considering the other issues that I mentioned above a rewrite would be good anyway, but I must say that I have problems finding reliable sources to build an article from. In fact, after some searching, I'm not quite sure he passes our inclusion guideline for actors at this point, WP:ENTERTAINER. That's not for me to decide though.
Concerning the images, the best way to display them here is to have someone copy them to Wikimedia commons, the central media repository, since that way the license issues should already be done with, with the prior OTRS approval. I would suggest that you approach someone on tr.wikipedia to do that, it will be easier for you than for me. Process to do this here is detailed at Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons, maybe you can mention that over there.
I must also urge you to rewrite the text on tr.wikipedia: A direct translation from a copyrighted source may not be used on Wikipedia. The basic rule is that you may take information from copyrighted sources, but not whole sentences, not even if you translate them. Can you do that?
Sorry that this is turning out a bit more difficult than you probably thought. We take copyright very serious on Wikipedia, and it's really in the interest of your friend and all creative professionals that we do.
Kind regards, Amalthea 21:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- I see. Concerning the text, the English article was so close to the text on his website that I can only conclude that the Turkish version was a translation to begin with. Compare
- Yes, as you said, it is hard for me to find reliable sources for George. Then I used some information that I know and also from his website actnowstudios. It was really hard for me to do the page that you deleted. I saw that you had deleted everything that I write. I did not copy all the text and paste it. I write the whole text on the noteped then I opened that page. I hardly find the reference links with some other information. There are too many pages on Wikipedia that they have no references. I do not like that kind of pages. I tried to do the best I think. I tried to rewrite many of the texts. There are almost no information about him on Internet that I can rewrite. I live in Turkey and I think, I am forgetting English. Sometimes I do not know what to say and how to rewrite texts. I just want to do a good think. Your behaviour is not good, I think. I do not want to focus on English Wikipedia after your behaviour. Sorry about this. Take care. Metu Impact (talk) 22:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well, as I said, I'm sorry about the result, but there is very little I can do with copyright issues. The one sentence I quoted above was just an example, but it affected pretty much the whole text. Amalthea 22:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, as you said, it is hard for me to find reliable sources for George. Then I used some information that I know and also from his website actnowstudios. It was really hard for me to do the page that you deleted. I saw that you had deleted everything that I write. I did not copy all the text and paste it. I write the whole text on the noteped then I opened that page. I hardly find the reference links with some other information. There are too many pages on Wikipedia that they have no references. I do not like that kind of pages. I tried to do the best I think. I tried to rewrite many of the texts. There are almost no information about him on Internet that I can rewrite. I live in Turkey and I think, I am forgetting English. Sometimes I do not know what to say and how to rewrite texts. I just want to do a good think. Your behaviour is not good, I think. I do not want to focus on English Wikipedia after your behaviour. Sorry about this. Take care. Metu Impact (talk) 22:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Nomination of George Perez (actor) for deletion[edit]
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