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Wow =)[edit]

Ahahaha i loved the work you did on Jeopardy (BBC TV series)!!! I loved that show when they screened it in our australian summer christmas holidays lol

Loved Loved Loved your articles =] --- Bitbitz.xx 06:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Calusari episode / UK rating[edit]

Hi Midnightblueowl. I just saw your note about the X-Files episode The Calusari. Do you have a cite for that? Frankly I'd be surprised if The Calusari was rated more severely than, say, "Home", which was (I think) one of the few "adult content warning" episodes in the US. --lquilter 21:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. Since it seems like the rating comes from the DVD, and it's not clearly listed which episode, then I think you shouldn't include the information. "Our Town", for instance, includes cannibalism, and that might be considered "mature" according to the English ratings board. --lquilter 21:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be very curious to see what you find out! If you can include a link to some official British DVD ratings board that would be an EXCELLENT source for similar such material & would be much appreciated. --lquilter 21:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moomin template[edit]

Hi. Thanks for creating the Moomin template. It is far more comprehensive than I would have been able to make it. -*Ulla* 13:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paganism template (thanks)[edit]

Thank you Midnight! =) I've restored the section about indigenous spiritualities. ---- Esimal (talk) 20:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some Eastern religions are similar to the Western historical Pagan and modern Neopagan faiths. Nevertheless, the trend to include them into the Western umbrella word "Paganism" is quite recent and opposed by the scholars. This kind of categorization was popularized by Isaac Bonewits (a Druidist), who's not such an "academic" scholar. Some of his theories are rejected also by many Neopagans. I think it's also an identity issue: Indian Hindus or Japanese Shintoists don't label themselves as "Pagan" or "Neopagan". =) ---- Esimal (talk) 21:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beowulf template[edit]

Hi Midnightblueowl! Well done with the template!--Berig (talk) 15:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neopaganism template[edit]

While this one avoids some of the problems of the Paganism template, in that the article names are mostly accurate, there are still many of the same problems with this one (POV and OR in the categories and articles chosen, etc). It's not ready to be added wholesale to any article with "Neopagan" or "Neo-" in the title. Also, on some of the cultural articles, I think it's best to let those more familiar with the article subject decide if they want to be included in a "Neopaganism" template and have symbols of other faiths, such as pentacles, put on their pages. Please see the discussion at the talk page of the Paganism template, as well as at Use talk:Esimal for more on this. - Kathryn NicDhàna 18:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page for templates relating to pagan topics[edit]

Hello there Midnightblueowl, I'm aware that at least five different templates have recently been produced and added to pages within this general area. I'm a bit concerned that this profusion has taken place without much discussion from editors who work on these articles, and I'd suggest that this should be discussed centrally so that there is a degree of uniformity in articles within the same family. I'm writing to you because I know you have been involved with these articles quite closely. If you would like to join this discussion, please do not reply here, but go instead to the talk page I have set up for this purpose. Of course if you want to have a 1:1 discussion about this, then please do reply here or on my own talk page. PS: I realise that several of these templates are due to your creativity and hard work, and I mean no criticism of them! I just think that they are so important that there needs to be some consensus among interested editors in this subject area. Many thanks! Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 00:08, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would encourage those than know a lot about these subjects to add to the templates instead of deleting them :) Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That does assume that they are desirable and necessary in the first place: I can envisage situations in which the most comprehensive template would still be an unnecessary and distracting addition to an article. That's why this discussion about their desirability in principle is overdue, and should precede technical discussions about how they could be improved. I will copy this exchange here so we can add it to the discussion of templates in general in these articles. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 20:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On further thought...[edit]

...I just wanted to add something more encouraging here. It must be very demoralising working hard on templates which look good and work well, then getting them criticised or deleted by other editors. I don't want to discourage you with this discussion, and I'm reminding myself that new editors who actually want to improve the encyclopaedia are (a) rarer than the "John Doe smells of poo" type of editor and (b) therefore to be encouraged, not slapped down!

I think the suggestion I'd make for the future is that templates, images and similar 'architectural' contributions that change the whole look and shape of a page are significant and need careful handling. Rather than develop a template in isolation, then launch it on an unsuspecting article, it might be better to canvass opinion at an article's talk page along the lines of "Hi folks, I think this article needs a template, here's a first draft, what do you think?'" This would be more likely to get people onside, improve the quality of the template, and avoid wasted work if the consensus is that the template is not needed.

So once again, keep up the good work on contributing, and I hope we'll see you discussing your templates at: WikiProject Neopaganism/Templates Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 22:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Religious Traditions[edit]

I'd like to thank you for fixing that page. It certainly made it much more specific than somebody else changed it too, and it's actually something like a likst of religious traditions, now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.164.235 (talk) 00:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks[edit]

Hello Midnightblueowl. I was just looking at the crptozoology template that you added to the jackalope article and I wanted to pass along my thanks for all of the work that you put in to create it. I know that I am going to be spending some time in the next few days using this template to read a batch of wikiarticles that I might not otherwise have ever encountered. It looks like you put in some time and effort to make this template and I wanted to let you know that I very much appreciate it. Cheers and continued happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 20:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Watch what you write there. Putinistas abound.([1])Trysty (talk) 20:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination[edit]

Hi. I've nominated Celtic animism, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on October 9, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks, --Bruce1eetalk 14:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Celtic animism[edit]

Updated DYK query On 15 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Celtic animism, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 14:35, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! --Bruce1eetalk 14:47, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for revamping the Odinani page! Ukabia (talk)

Trads and eclectics[edit]

Hi Midnightblueowl. I just re-read my post at Talk:Wicca regarding trads and eclectics, and I wonder whether it's a bit strong, talking about "cousin Rex" and all that. I really do believe that there are competent priesthood amongst Eclectic Wiccans, it's just that I'm used to using the term "Wicca" to mean something quite different, since here (NZ) it does mean something quite different. And I want to again let you know that I really appreciate all the editing you're doing here, putting in what's obviously an awful lot of work. The Horned God article, for instance: you've done plenty there, and in the face of some pretty fierce opposition. Full respect and appreciation for that. If I sometimes come and alter things you've just written, please don't read any malice into it; I guess I'm not spending enough time explaining myself or trying to wear my gentle face. Like now, this message is really rushed because I've got to shoot out and catch a train home to dinner with my partner. I look forward to seeing plenty more of you at WP. Cheers, Fuzzypeg 05:05, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just thought I'd drop a line to congratulate you on the great work you're doing at Gerald Gardner (and other articles). Transferring large quantities of information into Wikipedia like that is the kind of work that hardly gets done here amongst the bickering, deleting and petty rewordings, and it's so valuable! It's what the encyclopedia relies on! I just looked at the WP:WIP essay yesterday, and I was reminded of how important that work you're doing right now is. All the best! Fuzzypeg 21:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello![edit]

I just wanted to say that I really like your user name. I'm not sure what it is... --Midnightdreary (talk) 14:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In this article you quoted Fifty Years of Wicca (page 9). There is a typo in the quote. Please check if the book actually spelled "appearance" incorrectly or if you made the typo. I have added (sic) notation after the spelling error, so you can leave that if the book was in error. Otherwise please change the spelling from "appearEnce" --> "appearance". Thanks. Clerks. (talk) 21:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wiccan pendant[edit]

I have a quick question, just wondering if you found the picture of the Wiccan Pendant Wicca on the internet or if you know where to buy it. I saw it and now I'd really like to have it. Thanks so much! Sarahhbear (talk) 08:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank You![edit]

Hey, Midnightblueowl. Just thought I'd pop by and just say "thanks" for all the work you're doing to the Wicca article and just general Pagan articles :) Keep up the good edits :D Xxglennxx (talk) 23:18, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Neo-druidism[edit]

Your recent addition of references from Emma Restall Orr I think have skewed the article too much toward her direction. The beliefs she ascribes describes as "generally" observed do not correspond with those of any of the Druids of my acquaintance. Elphion (talk) 23:06, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping for something somewhat more proactive. Your editing gives the impression that Restall and Carr-Gomm speak for all (or even most) Druids. You need to make it clearer that this is but one view of Druidism. Elphion (talk) 23:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think at minimum you need to identify the views quoted from Orr and Carr-Gomm as representative of their organizations only. I'm not familiar with Orr's book; I don't know whether she belongs to a particular Druidic organization. If so, it might be best to introduce this material to the article about that organization.

The key sentence is the very first under "Beliefs": "Beliefs vary widely, and there is no set dogma or belief system by which all adherents follow." But you undercut this by saying later in the paragraph that most Druids believe in "honouring of the ancestors and honouring of the land". Few with would quibble with honoring the land; "ancestor worship" is more problematical. Likewise farther down where you talk about connecting with Earth-ancestor traditions, or about reincarnation, or "ancestor veneration". I have no problem with these things being in the article; I just want it to be clear that different groups have different ideas about the importance of any one of them.

We've been over "Druidry" before; I think you leave too sanguine an impression about how "commonly" it is used.

The beliefs of American Druids run the gamut, from the air of philosophical inquiry among the RDNA, through Bonewits's idiosyncratic notions, to views not too distant from Carr-Gomm's. The article needs to keep this breadth of belief (and non-belief) well visible. It's hard to point to specific references, since the non-doctrinaire and the people not in it to earn a living tend not to leave much in the way of writing behind. I would recommend the brief discussion in Margot Adler's Drawing Down the Moon and perhaps the largely uncharted (but amazingly varied) RDNA collection at http://www.geocities.com/mikerdna/arda.html . There are links at http://www.geocities.com/mikerdna to other American groups as well. (Be forewarned, though: sorting through all that stuff will take a lot of patience.) I don't think it's important in the article that all of these be represented; what's important is that the views of some Druids not be represented as generally applicable. There is more variation of belief across Druidism than there is across Christianity!

Elphion (talk) 00:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've made a few changes to address this. Elphion (talk) 17:56, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aleister Crowley[edit]

I see you're doing a full sweep of the Crowley article. I haven't taken the time to see if the edits work well, remove data, etc. Please let the editors who work on the page know when you are finished so they can take a look at the overall work. A concern I have is that you recently have shown a bias against Crowley's teachings regarding one of his work's central cores, Sex magick, in relationship to adding a very related (imho) tiny link to the page to Wiccan-related articles under their "See also" sections. As we've had that discussion recently, and I want to pick it up again in the near future, I must point out to you and to xxglennxx that I have not added the link to any page since our discussion (even though glenn left a seemingly threatening note on my talk page weeks after that discussion implying I was still adding the links and talking of action to be taken!?). So, in relationship to all of that, you can probably understand why I am wary of your full edit-sweep on a page I enjoy working on. That said, I hope your edits are very good ones and that you improve the Crowley page. Good luck with that work, and maybe we can discuss sexual practices, their use, and their symbolism within Wicca and related topics in more depth soon. Thanks again, Aleister Wilson (talk) 22:34, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. I took a look at the Alan Moore page, what fun! I've heard of his work but have never really studied his life and who he is. In reference to Crowley, you put Moore's name into the lead on the AC page, but I don't see any mention of Crowley on his page. Missing, edited out, etc? Thanks again, Aleister Wilson (talk) 22:47, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon me, but you've stated many claims by Symonds as fact. Why? You must know he has a major bias. Dan (talk) 02:54, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cocranesimo[edit]

I'm a big fan of Midnightblueowl =) Too bad English doesn't have a way of rendering something fetching like "Cocranesimo". I think "Cochranianism" somehow picked up an x–"ian" with an "ism" (rather than an "ity"). "Cochranism" would be shorter, but I don't know that any of these really caught on.—Machine Elf 1735 (talk) 16:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you say, its consistent with Prof. Hutton and, come to think of it, its consistent with Gardnerianism etc etc etc. So fair enough, serves RC right if he started that trend.—Machine Elf 1735 (talk) 10:45, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wicca book addition[edit]

Hey MBO, would you offer a third-party opinion for me? An IP(s) and now a registered user continue to add the book "The Truth About Wicca And Witchcraft-Finding Your True Power" to Wicca. The IPs were acting in a very advertisy way, and the book itself appears to be self-published (which basically breaks our inclusion guidelines). Would you consider it appropriate to keep or get rid of? I don't really care if it's there or not, if it seems like a legit resource for us, but I strongly dislike attempts to advertise or promote. Here's the most recent diff for it being re-added. Thanks :) Huntster (t @ c) 03:36, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks MBO. If you see it re-added to the page, please remove it. Huntster (t @ c) 09:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Anger[edit]

Greetings, Midnightblueowl. I have done some writing on and copyediting to Kenneth Anger's article, which you have contributed a significantly fundamental amount on yourself. You are the best person I see to consult, and will with others interested, to collaborate in making the necessary edits for this great A-class article to become a featured article in the foreseeable future. Regards! Sir Richardson (talk) 15:28, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Drop me a line?[edit]

If no, that's cool too but any chance I could ask you to email me? Special:EmailUser/Machine Elf 1735 Thanks!—Machine Elf 1735 (talk) 18:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a link: Special:EmailUser/Machine_Elf_1735, thx!—Machine Elf 1735 (talk) 00:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, if it's easier, you can go to Special:Preferences and tick ☑ Enable e-mail from other users at the bottom of the page. Then I could just send you an message using Special:EmailUser/Midnightblueowl without seeing your email addy.
I wouldn't mind posting an email for all the panopticon except talk pages get copied to lots of junk urls as Google Spam...—Machine Elf 1735 (talk) 05:53, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Midnightblueowl. German article Viereckschanze contains an interwiki link leading to English Nemeton. Is it the same topic? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

... see also Viereckschanze. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks for the explanation, I'm not an expert. This sculpture was found near to a viereckshanze in my country. Best regards :) --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your useful addition to the introduction. Could you please expand this point in the body of the article? It desperately needs well-referenced material of this kind. Marshall46 (talk) 10:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seahenge[edit]

Hi

Can you take a look at the page please.

I think you may have inadvertently created a problem with the page structure. If I click on edit next to the References section it oipens up the External links section. To open up references for editing I have to click on the Holme II edit link.

Please can you fix this as well as the references section.

thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 16:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm must have been a firefox problem then. Ill try it in a bit
Thx for the quick response :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 11:43, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stupid internet lol - it works fine now, must have been the full moon or the Java gremlins but problem has gone without any explanation lol
Chaosdruid (talk) 23:48, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 2010 student protest in London[edit]

Gatoclass (talk) 12:06, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cites[edit]

When reusing a cite you do not have to keep repeating the entire cite, the "name" part is enough. I've had to remove about 20 occurrences of you doing this in the 2010 student protests in London article. If you read this it will explain. Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you also note for any future additions; "protester" is spelt with two Es. Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 23:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

David Lynch[edit]

Excellent work on revamping and expanding his article! Lugnuts (talk) 08:35, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Centuries[edit]

I don't think there's a right way or a wrong way to go about describing centuries (ie: twelfth century or 12th century), but articles need to be consistent and so I've undone your edit to Maiden Castle and King Arthur. It would probably be a good idea to discuss why one form is preferred on an article's talk page; I can't think of any particular reason why one would be preferred, but also don't see the point in wholesale changes for the sake of it. Nev1 (talk) 20:14, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits[edit]

Just a note: I don't have time to review your edits [2] at Hugo Chavez properly (looks good at a glance), but I note that you seem to be adding material that isn't in the subarticle (in this case, Military career of...). The info should be either in both articles or just in the subarticle; the sections at Hugo Chavez should summarise the subarticle in appropriate detail (see WP:SUMMARY). cheers, Rd232 talk 20:51, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hugo Chavez[edit]

Just wanted to thank you for all of the work you've been doing at Hugo Chavez. Looks good so far. -- Jrtayloriv (talk) 09:14, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to also extend congratulations for your continuing (as of right now!) efforts to expand this article, with interesting, well written and even handed additions. Well done. ValenShephard (talk) 21:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chavez[edit]

It is disheartening that you appear to have become (or been convinced) dissolusioned with your own work and additions on the Chavez article. Its surprising and sad to see you become attracted to the idea of basically starting the article again by one other editor. Your work is good, useful, well sourced and generally well written. Yeah, like anything here it could do with some collaboration and copy editing, removing a few small instances of unintentional POV (language-use from your sources) but that is about it. I say keep going on your track, your hard work has been appreciated and has improved the article, and we look forward to working with you to build on it. I would recommend we get on with expanding the sections of the article which have been left in the dust because of these exact kinds of disputes. Whaddaya say? ValenShephard (talk) 00:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your swift reply. I would say that you should not be overly taken over by the rhetoric of one or a couple of editors. I am sure that others will support your edits and have already shown a desire NOT to revert or 'start again'. Only an article which is complete trash should any of us contemplate a complete rewrite. The article is flawed but informative and well written. I sincerely suggest that you continue on your course and hopefully some others will get involved to help with your editing (and you with theirs). ValenShephard (talk) 16:36, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Chinese New Left POV pushing[edit]

Midnightblueowl, are you pushing Chinese New Left POV here in wikipedia? Looking at talkpages of Cultural Revolution, Great Leap Forward, and Mao: The Unknown Story, there seems to have some sort of pattern. http://www.wyzxsx.com/ 乌有之乡 would be a good place for your contributions. Arilang talk 22:04, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tintin in the Land of the Soviets note[edit]

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Citation style[edit]

Per our guidelines, editors should not arbitrarily change the citation style without discussion. I will be reverting your changes to Wicca. Feel free to add additional references without changing the citation style. Yworo (talk) 17:05, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just a friendly note that some editors view tagging every paragraph with a fact tag to be disruptive. It's generally better to put an {{unreferenced|section}} tag at the beginning of each unreferenced section than a fact tag on every paragraph in the section. This is in reference to your edits at Reformed Druids of North America. Yworo (talk) 23:41, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do have to disagree that Tyson is a less reliable source. While I wasn't "there", I was "in the loop" shortly later, and the version of the story in Clifton is a whitewashed revisionist version. Tyson is accurate, at the time, it was completely a tongue-in-cheek joke that was never expected to be taken seriously except as a protest and a way of getting out of going to church. You seem to be intent on glossing over that. Yworo (talk) 23:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
While Tyson is brief but accurate, Bonewits dedicates 22 pages to the RDNA and is probably a better source than Tyson. Yworo (talk) 00:07, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, ha! I knew Isaac, but I'd completely forgotten about the HDNA (The Hasidic Druids of North America) and The Mishmash of Hasidic Druidism. Do read the chapter in Bonewits, it will give you a feel for the whole tone of the period. It were the sixties after all. :-) Yworo (talk) 00:16, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I wonder whether the church at Carleton was the sort of Protestant church that uses wine or grape juice for communion. I wish the articles on the various denominations would specify things like that. Perhaps Nason didn't say anything because the regular services did use wine? I think you dropped a word from that sentence by the way. Yworo (talk) 00:22, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know if you're watching my talk page or not, here's the Google Books link, should work if you are in the US and haven't used up whatever page limit Google sets for browsing books online. Not sure what happens if you are in the UK or Australia, I've heard complaints that not all people are able to browse books to the same extent. Yworo (talk) 01:22, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not remove links to nonexisting articles like you did here. Red links serve a valuable purpose, and removing them lessens the chances of new article creation. Thanks for your clean up efforts! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:14, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another copyediting request[edit]

Again, thanks for your c/e at KM. Regarding [3]; I think shortening is fine, but can you preserve Google Books page links? Two click verification is helpful to retain, I think. With your edits, even the generic Google Book link has been removed (not to mention that for me the "Wheen 2000" links are broken anyway, not even taking me to the bibliographical entry underneath...). PS. This is what I mean - I hope you'll agree with me it is an improvement. It can be easily replicated at other Wheen's citations, all that is needed is to change the number in the html (PAX is page number x). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:08, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Revert explanation[edit]

I hope you will be ok with my revert, I justified it in the edit summary. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:28, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I could be mistaken as well, some sources give 1844 for some works, hard to say at this point if this is a "written" vs "published". My reading of the refs indicates 1843, and he left Cologne only in October, so for now I prefer 1843. But if we find better data... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Scorpion and Felix[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:33, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored the redirect. We can't have two articles on the same subject. Dougweller (talk) 18:12, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tintin[edit]

Thanks for the great work You are doing on the articles about tintin-albums!! I hope I'll see much more of your wonderful, and much needed, work in the future! Are You planning to do any work on The Crab with the Golden Claws/The Secret of the Unicorn/Red Rackham's Treasure, since they will probably attract some readers in December? Iusethis (talk) 13:23, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Midnightblueowl, I also have been working on improving the synopsis of several Tintin albums, including The Secret of the Unicorn, which I finished improving last month. I am surprised to see nearly ALL of my recent hard work is now gone, almost completely replaced by a new synopsis by you. Was that really necessary? Did you notice in the article's history that the synopsis had a major copy-edit improvement? I realize it was a lengthy synopsis before, but I still thought it read just fine. When I improved it, I respected the edits of previous editors. Your edit was disrespectful—it contains almost nothing of several years of previous editor's work; nearly all of it was discarded and re-written by you. Why?
You are a good writer, as I believe I am also: Would you mind if we work together to revert your work and put back the work that was there before, and then you can trim it and improve it as you see best? —Prhartcom (talk) 14:26, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I got your note, and thanks. I didn't realize a short synopsis was Wikipedia policy. I haven't brought a Tintin article to FA (that sounds great). Oh well. Say, I have been working my way through the albums (I started at Shoorting Star and Black Gold is next) and I will work harder to keep them short, and go back and reduce the size of those I have already done. —Prhartcom (talk) 20:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will help, especially since the movie is coming out, that is precisely why I improved the Unicorn article (check out the article before my first improvement; it was not in good shape). I would like to trim your introduction to Unicorn; it is too long; i.e. we do not need any plot elements at all there. I have also already improved the Red Rackham's Treasure article since it is also part of the movie, and next we need to do the Cigars article for the same reason. I should trim the Red Rackham's Treasure article synopsis. Your skills are good and I'm glad to work with you Midnightblueowl; my only suggestion to you is to please remember to respect previous editor's work whenever possible. Glad to know we can work together on this; it can be our project; stay in touch. —Prhartcom (talk) 11:59, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have reviewed Tintin in the Congo and placed it on hold for up to seven days with several concerns. You can see my review here: Talk:Tintin in the Congo/GA1. Canadian Paul 20:28, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The seven-day hold is almost up. Is there any progress being made/plan for the near future? Canadian Paul 01:03, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An edit to the Cultural Revolution page[edit]

This is not acceptable; the article would be losing important language information in an article where such information would be highly pertinent. "Too many sidebars" is not a valid excuse. I may not know much about you, but you don't seem to edit many articles that use Template:Chinese. --HXL's Roundtable and Record 04:04, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

-- Eraserhead1 <talk> 09:51, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bath, Somerset, hillforts etc[edit]

Hi, I see you have been doing some tidying at Bath and improving my non expert terminology. Would you be kind enough to take a look at History of Somerset, List of hill forts and ancient settlements in Somerset and their linked articles and see if I've made the same mistakes elsewhere?— Rod talk 18:21, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient astronauts[edit]

If you're interested, one of the editors I described to you at Pseudoarchaeology who frequently show up to push their fringe POV, is currently active at Ancient astronauts. They are seeking to cite everyone from IMDB to Legendary Times to wikipedia itself. Wanna take a look and offer advise? Heiro 22:44, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Netley Abbey[edit]

Thanks for your note on Netley Abbey and the issue of dating terminology. It's a very interesting question. Personally, I'd call the reign of Henry III, when the abbey was founded and (mostly) constructed, the High Middle Ages, a term that I know is unfashionable these days. To me, in the context of English monastic sites, 'late mediaeval' would imply dates after around 1300 and going on to the eve of the Dissolution. Netley is contemporary with the currently standing version of Westminster Abbey and, to me, it doesn't seem right to me to call that 'late mediaeval'. On the other hand, Netley is very late for an English monastic foundation, and especially so for a Cistercian one. I'd be interested in your views. Best wishes, Soph (talk) 14:54, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks so much for your kind words and explanation of the reasons. Yep, the term 'late mediaeval' is used differently by historians, particularly art and architectural historians (which is my background, rather than archaeology, as you can probably tell from the article), but it's an archaeological site so I think we should go with the terms currently used in the profession, so it's best doing it as you've suggested. In my experience these terms go in and out of fashion, in 20 years we'll all have to call things something different again!
Sadly, Netley Abbey has not been excavated in modern times, which is a shame because there are lots of mysteries to clear up, such as where the missing infirmary complex was. The 1860s excavation reports are an example of the 19th century gentleman antiquarian in full flight, full of interesting details of now lost evidence, but also a horror story of terrible things they did to the site. Best wishes Soph (talk) 16:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

you are wasting time[edit]

Do not let these beastly computers consume you. They will destroy you from the inside out. Get rid of them, if possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indigochild777 (talkcontribs) 04:20, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Midnight Blue Owl![edit]

Dear Midnight Blue Owl!

I'm reaching out to researchers and writers interested in the emerging, or re-emerging, movements inspired by ancient culture in the areas of religion/theology/mythology/culture...I spare-headed an artistic collaboration between a music professor, rock-vocalist and poet to create a modern multi-media experience of the cathardic journey inspired by ancient pagan poetic traditions; A romance to nature seen as a beautiful, divine and omnipotent woman.

It has singularly been my goal to respect tradition while allowing a free and spontaneous interpretation...I believe the utility of a quasi-rebirth of some aspects of the ancient religious tendancies would be achieved in an increase of tolerance, sympathy, and freedom of expression in our modern discoures on religion...so much needed. Until we have a cultural revolution tantamount to the politcal revolutions of the 18th and 19th centuries [aiding the rebirth of a government of, by and for the people] in the area of religion, I will not rest. Until the rebirth of religions which are of, by and for the people, as fluid as art, as deep as mythology and theology and as powerful as culture, I do not believe we will be truly free no matter what economic or political conditions surround us. Democracy without a democratic cultural is as frustrating as it is ineffectual.

If you have a moment could you peruse the poetry project site. http://www.misbeliever.net As you are a worker in these areas, having ebhanced the Wikipedia, the world's greatest encyclopedia, I would be very honored with any remarks or critisms you could offer either me or my collaborators.

thanks much,

sincerely

Pdiffenderfer (talk) 01:06, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

paul m. diffenderfer

düsseldorf germany +49 (0) 178 178 2117 http://www.misbeliever.net pdiffenderfer@yahoo.com

Barnstar award[edit]

The Original Barnstar
For your contributions to Aradia (goddess) and contemporary Pagan subjects. Folklore1 (talk) 02:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hugo Chavez article[edit]

Greetings.

Please add the following to the "Presidency" section of the Hugo Chavez article. Thank you:

Since 2003, Chavez has been setting strict price controls on food, and these price controls have been causing shortages and hoarding.[1] In January 2008, Chavez ordered the military to seize 750 tons of food that sellers were illegally trying to smuggle across the border to sell for higher prices than what was legal in Venezuela.[2] In February 2009, Chavez ordered the military to temporarily seize control of all the rice processing plants in the country and force them to produce at full capacity, which he claimed they had been avoiding in response to the price caps.[3] In May 2010, Chavez ordered the military to seize 120 tons of food from Empresas Polar.[4] In March 2009, Chavez set minimum production quotas for 12 basic foods that were subject to price controls, including white rice, cooking oil, coffee, sugar, powdered milk, cheese, and tomato sauce. Business leaders and food producers claimed that the government was forcing them to produce this food at a loss.[5] Chávez has nationalized many large farms. Chávez said of the farmland, "The land is not private. It is the property of the state." Some of the farmland that had been productive while under private ownership is now idle under government ownership, and some of the farm equipment sits gathering dust. As a result, food production has fallen substantially. One farmer, referring to the government officials overseeing the land redistribution, stated, "These people know nothing about agriculture."[6] Chávez has seized many supermarkets from their owners. Under government ownership, the shelves in these supermarkets are often empty.[7] In 2010, after the government nationalized the port at Puerto Cabello, more than 120,000 tons of food sat rotting at the port.[8] In May 2010, after price controls caused shortages of beef, at least 40 butchers were arrested, and some of them were held at a military base and later strip searched by police.[9]

Chavez's price controls have caused shortages of materials used in the construction industry.[10] Chavez has nationalized key industries, including telephone and electric,[11] steel,[12] and cement.[13] As a result of Chavez's nationalizations of the steel and cement industries, production has fallen substantially. Nationwide production of steel rods declined 20 percent in September 2010 compared with a year earlier. Cement output fell 40 percent in the second half of 2009. These shortages have caused new housing construction in 2010 to fall to less than half that of the previous year.[14] In 2010, the government's mismanagement of the nationalized oil industry was so severe that the country actually had to import gasoline, despite having some of the hugest oil reserves in the world. Also in 2010, the government's mismanagement of the nationalized electricity industry was causing shortages of electricity.[15] In December 2006, the Venezuelan government instituted a 15% tax on imported toilet paper, which it described as being a "luxury."[16] The 2010 Index of Economic Freedom ranked Venezuela 174th out of 179 countries.[17]

Because of Chavez's criticsm and legal attacks against the productive members of his country, the country has been experienceing a substantial brain drain. Doctors, teachers, entrepreneurs, business owners, software developers, advertising account executives, scientists, classical musicians, and lawyers have been fleeing the country. Of this brain drain, an editorial in Investor's Business Daily declared, "Chavez talks a lot about Venezuela being a rich country, and extols its vast oil wealth. But the human capital he is throwing out is far more valuable... He's throwing away his country's biggest treasure."[18]

74.98.45.196 (talk) 13:26, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Writer's Barnstar
Thanks for expanding and giving Fidel Castro a thorough overhaul . Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 01:27, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
NP, just do me one favour, spread the love. Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 23:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please outline on the article's talk page the recent research you believe to be missing. Malleus Fatuorum 15:59, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm finding Froome's book quite fascinating, and I've added a tiny bit about pins and love magic. But I'd love to know what else you think ought to be added. Malleus Fatuorum 01:09, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Heathenism[edit]

Hi! Can you take part to this discussion? --Bhlegkorbh (talk) 20:09, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Stele of Revealing[edit]

The Stele of Revealing in Social-Imperialist filth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaoMaoBowman (talkcontribs) 18:42, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Garner[edit]

Your major overhaul of the Alan Garner article is much appreciated. I've made two nitpicking little corrections to the Elidor section. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 01:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for creating this article. In the future, please add categories ([4]) and talk page assessment templates (Talk:Pagan studies). You may also want to nominate your work for front page exposure at T:TDYK. Let me know if you have any questions. PS. I noticed you added both to A Community of Witches. I added more WikiProjects; and it would make an excellent two article hook for DYK with the previous entry. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 23:16, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of A Community of Witches[edit]

The article A Community of Witches you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:A Community of Witches for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making the contemporary paganism template[edit]

Thanks for making the contemporary paganism template 2. I have not seen it in many articles and am wondering if it was removed or if you need people to put it into articles.--Dchmelik (talk) 10:07, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see you made another one which is probably version 1. How do I know which to use? Why not make one that has everything from both?--Dchmelik (talk) 11:00, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]