User talk:Mileslong123

Welcome![edit]

Hello, Mileslong123, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Symbiant software, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Symbiant Company (January 25)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Symbiant Company and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

KylieTastic (talk) 14:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kylie Tastic, i took onboard your comments and supplied more evidence and information. I did this about 4 months ago but i can't find it on your review lists. Will you be the editor to re-review or does it go into a general pool? Mileslong123 (talk) 14:59, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Mileslong123! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! KylieTastic (talk) 14:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Symbiant Company (June 20)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Theroadislong were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Also see WP:SOLUTIONS.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Symbiant Company and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 14:56, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June 2023[edit]

Hello Mileslong123. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Mileslong123. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Mileslong123|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 15:00, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have no financial stake in this whatsoever, I am an ex employee of the firm, i retired a few years ago. Just trying my hand at wiki writing so any experience is useful. Mileslong123 (talk) 15:05, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(if you havent seen my response to your help desk post, please do) You uploaded the logo and claimed it as your own work, but you are not affiliated with the company currently? 331dot (talk) 15:08, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So for clarity, when you have articles about companies Microsoft, Apple, Oracle etc, which i note has the company logos. How are these different? Have you got permission to use these logos or are these articles written by people in the company? Mileslong123 (talk) 15:19, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Logos are typically used under what is called "fair use" or "non-free content"- see WP:FAIRUSE. This comes with certain restrictions, such as not being in drafts, and non-free images cannot be hosted on Commons. For example, the Microsoft logo was probably not posted by a Microsoft representative(I haven't examined its contribution history) but by an independent editor under "fair use" for the purpose of illustrating their logo.

As I said in my other reply, by claiming the logo as your own work and uploading it to Commons, you have made it available for use and sale by others(as long as they say they got it from Wikipedia). It has been nominated for deletion on Commons- you may upload the logo per the non-free content policy(WP:FAIRUSE) to this version of Wikipedia locally, see WP:UPIMAGE. Logos are not relevant to the draft approval process so you don't need to do this until and if the draft is accepted and placed in the encyclopedia.

Articles in general are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the topic. You say you are an ex-employee. If your work with the company was recent, or you still work in the same field as your former employer, it would still be a conflict of interest that you should disclose. 331dot (talk) 16:52, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As I now see that you are retired, that is absolutely a conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 16:54, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Symbiant Company[edit]

Hello, Mileslong123. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Symbiant Company".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 03:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]