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January 2024[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, please note that there is a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Deviating from this style, as you did in Wanli Emperor, disturbs uniformity among articles and may cause readability or accessibility problems. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. MOS:LEAD Remsense留 07:07, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with above. @Min968 I have shorten your lead, please work with other editors and discussing how to improve the page. Danial Bass (talk) 14:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started[edit]

Hello, Min968. Thank you for your work on Xuanfu Garrison. North8000, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Good start

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I have sent you a note about a page you started[edit]

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Thanks for your work

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North8000 (talk) 22:02, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started[edit]

Hello, Min968. Thank you for your work on Zhu Zaizhen. North8000, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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North8000 (talk) 22:12, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started[edit]

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North8000 (talk) 14:51, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 2024[edit]

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Hello, Min968,

Please leave an edit summary for every edit but especially page moves. If you don't leave an explanation of why you are moving an article to a different page title, your move is likely to be reverted. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:57, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked as a sockpuppet[edit]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts as a sockpuppet of User:Ylogm per the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ylogm. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 03:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March 2024[edit]

@Remsense @Underbar dk How can I possibly negotiate with people who are always trying to block me? Has anyone ever bothered to listen to my explanations? I have put a lot of effort into my work, but everyone seems to view it as illegal. I have been waiting for almost 5 years, but no one has improved the articles about the Ming dynasty. Will anyone care in another 5 years? I want to continue this projects, how can I do it, who can tell me, in a legal way. I am also quite tired of having to work like a thief. Min968 (talk) 11:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To make my stance perfectly clear: I really, truly value your contributions to Wikipedia. My ideal outcome would be you being able to resume contributing normally. However, it is even more important that one is able to work collaboratively and communicate with their fellow editors. From what I understand, the issue remains two-fold:

Historically, you've had a track record of disruptive behavior when others edit articles you're working on. This includes you not adequately communicating your reasons when reverting the work of others, and not working to establish consensus with others regarding specific details. The ANI thread that resulted in your original block seemed really short, to a degree that I think even years later further discussion is likely worthwhile. The original thread and block cited WP:NOTHERE—while I understand what was meant by this, I think I disagree that you are not here to build an encyclopedia. Instead, you really needed to communicate with other editors and try harder to establish consensus for aspects of articles.
The chronic pattern of sockpuppetry following your initial block seems to be the bigger problem, unfortunately. It's difficult to re-establish trust with someone following a single incident of sockpuppetry, even more so when it has been an intractable habit of theirs.

Blocks are not punitive. I am not an administrator, but my understanding of site norms is that this could be resolved if you can convince an admin that you will contribute non-disruptively going forward, according to our behavioral guidelines; this includes convincing them that you will communicate more effectively with your fellow editors, and that you will not continue abusing multiple accounts. I think it is possible that an admin would be receptive to your case, but you do have to convince them.

I am willing to vouch for your merits in good faith, because I do think you are engaging in good faith and could contribute non-disruptively. However, there's only so much I can say based on future promises: again, the history of sockpuppetry makes it much more difficult to trust that someone will make good when given another chance. I spent an hour writing all this because I think it's worth a shot. I hope I've adequately communicated the issues here in a helpful and constructive way.

In case there any comments they'd like to make, I'm boldly pinging:

LlywelynII, who made the original ANI report.
The Blade of the Northern Lights, who made the original block.
Pppery, The Wordsmith, and Spicy, who have contributed to the subsequent SPI.

Apologies in advance—I'm pinging so many in part because I know people are often very busy, so there may be less pressure on any one individual to respond if they lack the time or inclination to do so. Remsense诉 12:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time to respond. It is disheartening that my attempts to correct my mistakes often result in them becoming worse. When reading articles about British, French, or European history, one can see that they are written with great skill. However, when it comes to articles about Chinese history, especially the Ming dynasty, the quality is often disappointing. I have considered giving up, but my passion for the subject is difficult to let go of. I understand that this may be a challenging task, but I am sincerely hopeful for the opportunity to rectify my errors and collaborate with others to improve Wikipedia. Best regards. Min968 (talk) 16:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also care deeply about this subject area; it is an unfortunate situation if one of the big contributors we do have for it is on the outs like this if the situation can be rectified. That's what I'm hoping for too. Remsense诉 16:27, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an admin but I'm game for additional moral support if this editor can point to three specific instances where they actually improved anything. [I know we're discussing a block: Three examples of what they would improve if they could works too.]

At the time of the block, regardless of how passionate they may be about Chinese history and regardless of how much work there is to do adding info from Chinese sources and properly handling such sources, literally everything they were doing that I saw was disruptive and entirely incorrect nonsense. I was literally just asking for an admin intervention in that one instance; apparently, the mess they saw when they looked closer prompted a quick strong ban. People grow up and improve but, y'know, show a few examples and ping me to come look.

Similarly, even if the quality of the edits has gone up, they should be mindful that the way they edit—particularly large disruptive edits on major highly-visible pages—needs to be handled better this time around or they're just going to end up right back out in the penalty box. Goes double if they're still trying to force the admins to play whack-a-mole, which is never much appreciated. — LlywelynII 21:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LlywelynII, thank you very much for replying. They have written the majority of the following articles, among others—for some of them basically every meaningful part of the article:

It is obvious to me that the issue is not editing competence as such. This is vital work in my mind. Stretches of my own contribution history look pretty inane also, I'm guessing. Of course, I agree that you were reporting genuinely disruptive behavior, and that's what I'm looking to rectify here. One can learn to use draftspace more tactfully.

—and yes to make it crystal clear: @Min968, you need to never touch another sockpuppet account ever again. That is essential to your case, and to my support for it. Please only make edits from this account on this page pending further developments, ideally. Remsense诉 22:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if you're a sockpuppet as well or not, but no I don't want to waste a day going through their contribution links or trying to do comparisons of what pages look like before and after they show up and which other editors are their sockpuppets or not.

I was asking Min (not you) to just provide three specific single edits that specifically improved anything about any article. It's not like I'm a great catch: I'm not an admin or anyone with a lot of pull with the WikiMeFound Politburo. But that's what I was asking for. — LlywelynII 22:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My bad, I didn't see any indication that you were only asking Min, given that you were replying to me. Remsense诉 22:35, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After discussing with you here, I have stopped making edits on Wikipedia outside of this account. Regards. Min968 (talk) 03:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LlywelynII Thank you for responding. I am currently working on a project to improve the articles about the Ming dynasty, such as the three examples below.

Remsense's response closely matches my thoughts on the matter. If there is one thing I should add, Min968, it is that you must cease creating new sockpuppets to add or remove edits on Wikipedia to WP:GAME the system, as you were doing whilst you were talking to us! Doing this does not help your case at all, and that you keep getting caught is not evidence of people "trying to ban you", but you refusing to get the hint and negotiate in good faith. The proper way to get yourself unblocked is literally above your first message in this thread: use the {{unblock}} template and demonstrate that you understand why you are banned in the first place. _dk (talk) 23:54, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for responding. Currently, I have stopped making edits using any other accounts besides this one. Min968 (talk) 03:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Min968 what I would do now is follow the steps stated in the block notice about how to start an appeal. Remsense诉 00:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Remsense My case was quite difficult to appeal, but nevertheless, I am grateful for the time you have taken to support me. Min968 (talk) 12:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you going to file an appeal? That is the step required to unblock you, I wrote all this with that in mind in order to potentially help your case. Remsense诉 12:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Remsense I am not very good at this, so I am currently considering how to write an appeal. Min968 (talk) 13:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you need help or support, I can help you write it, but I think enough has been written here already so that the process could start and an admin would have something to work with. Remsense诉 13:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Remsense I think I need your help to write it. Regards. Min968 (talk) 13:15, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I suppose you just need to emphasize that you want to contribute constructively, that you were not sure how to handle the situation upon getting blocked, but now you understand that it's important to both actively collaborate with other edits on articles, and also that the sockpuppetry was unacceptable and will not happen again. Remsense诉 13:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Remsense I have written a request for the block to be lifted; however, I feel that it is not very good and my case is quite difficult, but anyway, I appreciate your time for my issue. I think I cannot continue working on Wikipedia anymore; hopefully, when you have time, you can consider GA for the articles Wanli, Xuande, etc. Thank you my friend! Min968 (talk) 14:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No! You simply have to wait. These things take a while, I think what you wrote is sufficient to start things, and is quite good actually. Please do not quit Wikipedia, I'm helping you because I feel it's working out! Could I ask that you please trust me here until there's a decision on your appeal? Remsense诉 14:58, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Remsense Of course, I trust you, no matter the outcome of the appeal. Min968 (talk) 10:58, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla @331dot I apologize for bothering you, but I would like to know if my case can be reviewed. Regards.Min968 (talk) 04:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It may take a while: I have no control whatsoever on when that is, but I can only promise that an admin will review it, likely before May though that is only a guess on my part, and the best thing you can do is remain patient. Remsense诉 11:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should probably try to control my hot temper and impatience even more. Min968 (talk) 08:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I posted a notice at ANI in case an admin who would like to answer your unblock request might see it. I figure it couldn't hurt. Remsense诉 06:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The latest unblock request[edit]

This user is asking that their block be reviewed:

Min968 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I, Min968 (Ylogm), would like to request a reconsideration of my block. I now understand the importance of collaborating with other members and how crucial it is to work together to develop Wikipedia. I am an introverted person and not good at handling conflicts, which unfortunately led to a heated argument with @LlywelynII and subsequently being banned without being able to defend myself. I then used a sock account to continue editing, which was a sign of my helplessness and lack of knowledge on how to handle the situation. I acknowledge that it was wrong, and I am committed to permanently stopping using sock accounts and contributing positively, while also respecting the opinions of other members and collaborating with them to further develop Wikipedia. Blocks are not punitive. I believe I need to be given an opportunity to correct my mistakes, a chance to contribute to the community.

My 5-year plan if the ban is lifted:

Rewrite articles about the Ming emperors
Improve and write new articles related to the Ming dynasty (my main area of interest)
Enhance some content related to the history of Vietnam and Korea
Correct mistakes and develop projects related to Chinese eras (a project I have started and also where I have made mistakes and stumbled)

My behavior on Wikipedia:

Adhere to maintaining neutrality and not obstructing the project.
Interact with members in a polite and respectful manner. We are all anonymous, somewhere in this world, and we are all here with the common goal of developing Wikipedia. Sometimes there may be mistakes, but we need to maintain good intentions, keep a cool head, and respect each other. All members are human, even those who have made mistakes.
Follow all of Wikipedia's rules. However, I do not believe that all rules are useful. Instead, I will lean towards resolving issues through discussion.

Why I chose English Wikipedia and requested to be unblocked: I chose English Wikipedia simply because it is a large project, widely popular globally, and accessed and used by many people for information. I want to contribute and improve content related to Chinese history, specifically the Ming dynasty, and bring it to a wider readership around the world. Unfortunately, the content related to Chinese history is not well developed and lacks information. I myself have waited for almost 5 years to read articles about Ming emperors, but they have not improved during that time. Therefore, instead of waiting, I want to take action.

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My 5-year plan if the ban is lifted:
# Rewrite articles about the Ming emperors 
# Improve and write new articles related to the Ming dynasty (my main area of interest) 
# Enhance some content related to the history of Vietnam and Korea 
# Correct mistakes and develop projects related to Chinese eras (a project I have started and also where I have made mistakes and stumbled)

My behavior on Wikipedia:
# Adhere to maintaining neutrality and not obstructing the project. 
# Interact with members in a polite and respectful manner. We are all anonymous, somewhere in this world, and we are all here with the common goal of developing Wikipedia. Sometimes there may be mistakes, but we need to maintain good intentions, keep a cool head, and respect each other. All members are human, even those who have made mistakes. 
# Follow all of Wikipedia's rules. However, I do not believe that all rules are useful. Instead, I will lean towards resolving issues through discussion.

Why I chose English Wikipedia and requested to be unblocked: I chose English Wikipedia simply because it is a large project, widely popular globally, and accessed and used by many people for information. I want to contribute and improve content related to Chinese history, specifically the Ming dynasty, and bring it to a wider readership around the world. Unfortunately, the content related to Chinese history is not well developed and lacks information. I myself have waited for almost 5 years to read articles about Ming emperors, but they have not improved during that time. Therefore, instead of waiting, I want to take action. |3 = ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=I, Min968 (Ylogm), would like to request a reconsideration of my block. I now understand the importance of collaborating with other members and how crucial it is to work together to develop Wikipedia. I am an introverted person and not good at handling conflicts, which unfortunately led to a heated argument with @[[User:LlywelynII|LlywelynII]] and subsequently being banned without being able to defend myself. I then used a sock account to continue editing, which was a sign of my helplessness and lack of knowledge on how to handle the situation. I acknowledge that it was wrong, and I am committed to permanently stopping using sock accounts and contributing positively, while also respecting the opinions of other members and collaborating with them to further develop Wikipedia. Blocks are not punitive. I believe I need to be given an opportunity to correct my mistakes, a chance to contribute to the community. 

My 5-year plan if the ban is lifted:
# Rewrite articles about the Ming emperors 
# Improve and write new articles related to the Ming dynasty (my main area of interest) 
# Enhance some content related to the history of Vietnam and Korea 
# Correct mistakes and develop projects related to Chinese eras (a project I have started and also where I have made mistakes and stumbled)

My behavior on Wikipedia:
# Adhere to maintaining neutrality and not obstructing the project. 
# Interact with members in a polite and respectful manner. We are all anonymous, somewhere in this world, and we are all here with the common goal of developing Wikipedia. Sometimes there may be mistakes, but we need to maintain good intentions, keep a cool head, and respect each other. All members are human, even those who have made mistakes. 
# Follow all of Wikipedia's rules. However, I do not believe that all rules are useful. Instead, I will lean towards resolving issues through discussion.

Why I chose English Wikipedia and requested to be unblocked: I chose English Wikipedia simply because it is a large project, widely popular globally, and accessed and used by many people for information. I want to contribute and improve content related to Chinese history, specifically the Ming dynasty, and bring it to a wider readership around the world. Unfortunately, the content related to Chinese history is not well developed and lacks information. I myself have waited for almost 5 years to read articles about Ming emperors, but they have not improved during that time. Therefore, instead of waiting, I want to take action. |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=I, Min968 (Ylogm), would like to request a reconsideration of my block. I now understand the importance of collaborating with other members and how crucial it is to work together to develop Wikipedia. I am an introverted person and not good at handling conflicts, which unfortunately led to a heated argument with @[[User:LlywelynII|LlywelynII]] and subsequently being banned without being able to defend myself. I then used a sock account to continue editing, which was a sign of my helplessness and lack of knowledge on how to handle the situation. I acknowledge that it was wrong, and I am committed to permanently stopping using sock accounts and contributing positively, while also respecting the opinions of other members and collaborating with them to further develop Wikipedia. Blocks are not punitive. I believe I need to be given an opportunity to correct my mistakes, a chance to contribute to the community. 

My 5-year plan if the ban is lifted:
# Rewrite articles about the Ming emperors 
# Improve and write new articles related to the Ming dynasty (my main area of interest) 
# Enhance some content related to the history of Vietnam and Korea 
# Correct mistakes and develop projects related to Chinese eras (a project I have started and also where I have made mistakes and stumbled)

My behavior on Wikipedia:
# Adhere to maintaining neutrality and not obstructing the project. 
# Interact with members in a polite and respectful manner. We are all anonymous, somewhere in this world, and we are all here with the common goal of developing Wikipedia. Sometimes there may be mistakes, but we need to maintain good intentions, keep a cool head, and respect each other. All members are human, even those who have made mistakes. 
# Follow all of Wikipedia's rules. However, I do not believe that all rules are useful. Instead, I will lean towards resolving issues through discussion.

Why I chose English Wikipedia and requested to be unblocked: I chose English Wikipedia simply because it is a large project, widely popular globally, and accessed and used by many people for information. I want to contribute and improve content related to Chinese history, specifically the Ming dynasty, and bring it to a wider readership around the world. Unfortunately, the content related to Chinese history is not well developed and lacks information. I myself have waited for almost 5 years to read articles about Ming emperors, but they have not improved during that time. Therefore, instead of waiting, I want to take action. |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

Min968 (talk) 10:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: For what it's worth, this editor is obviously trying to be better and did jump through the hoop above, attempting to show improvements they're making to our articles. There are still issues: From the three 'best example' edits provided, one was adding unused and slightly misformatted citation bloat to the bottom of an article. Looking at the next few edits, however, showed that Min then did use them. The formatting issues are all normal (especially for mobile editing) and only an issue given the expected volume of edits to major articles on the topics. Details commented out here for Min to look at if the lift comes through:

Assuming Min is willing to make a good faith effort on playing well with others, not blanking content (particularly without discussion), improving on their formatting bits, and neeeever forcing the admins to play whack-a-mole with sockpuppet accounts, I do add my non-admin moral support to giving them easier access to a single known account to edit and discuss from. — LlywelynII 10:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for this. Remsense诉 04:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notifying @The Wordsmith and @The Blade of the Northern Lights for comment. These were the blocking admins of Min968 and Ylogm respectively — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]