User talk:Mokhov/2005

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Modular Audio Recognition Framework[edit]

Are you planning to expand Modular Audio Recognition Framework (minding NPOV), otherwise it might get deleted because of Wikipedia:vanity. You should also try to avoid listing an article under too generic categories such as artificial intelligence an computational linguistics. Listing it under * in natural language processing is also very bad style. Cheers, --R.Koot 20:13, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hello R.Koot. Yes, I am planning on expanding on Modular Audio Recognition Framework once I get my history document sorted out in a presentable and NPOV form.
I listed in under the categories you mention because similar or related works were listed there already as MARF falls down into these categories as a sample implementation or an example. If you consider this a bad style then the other similar links shall be removed. Please advise on how to proceed in this case as I don't think a bad style argument applies here (if it does it should be applied fairly and uniformly).
BTW, thanks for your feedback and sorry for the delay in answering you. --Mokhov 04:22, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Natural language processing is a direct subcategory of both Category:Artificial intelligence and Category:Computational linguistics so it's not necessary to list them under those as well. For example, a week a go another editor created some articles about a few pubs in a small suburb of Dublin called Rathfarnham but categorized them under Category:Rathfarnham, Category:Dublin and Category:Ireland. Unfortunatly this would means that as Wikiepdia keeps growing it would be exteremly difficult to browse Category:Dublin, and you can forget about Category:Ireland. It's the same here. I quickly skimmed over some articles in Category:Natural language processing but I couldn't find any that were 'overcategorized' (except for ELIZA, but that would be an acceptable exception). In relation to the bad style. I was talking about the '*' you added, which causes an acticle to be listed a the top. This should only be done for the most important articles in an overcrowded category. Cheers, --R.Koot 04:58, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Some things about wikipolitics[edit]

I noticed you added a link from Java to MARF, I removed it. The reason is that there are thousands if not a million libraries for Java out there and it simply impossible, nor wanted to list all of them.

One of the problems of Wikipedia is that there are a lot of people who try to promote or sell their products and software by creating articles about and links to them. This would undermine our goal of creating an encyclopaedia. Therefore there are some rules to prevent this. You're not allowed to link to your own web site, not allowed to create articles about yourself... Articles like Modular Audio Recognition Framework are a bit of of a borderline case. A small majority of Wikipedians called delitionist would likely try do delete it if they happen to stumble upon it ( because of non-notability (only 72 Google hits), the fact that it's only one paragraph long and created by one of the members of the project, written more in a promotional than encyclopaedial style...). The other group, which includes me, called inclusionist, althoug I prefer the term categorizationalist, believe there's a place for any NPOV article, as long as it doesn't distrupt the infrastructure (e.g. is correctly categorized, not linked too from 1001 places). I think you understand how all of this relates to you :) Cheers, --R.Koot 05:33, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The philosophy is that if you truly are notable, someone else will create an article about you, for example William M. Connolley and User:William M. Connolley (although it should be noted that there was some controversy about this). The same goes for websites. If your website is really that good, someone else will link to it. Article about software are in the grey zone. Well written articles will usually be kept, poorly written ones not. --R.Koot 23:39, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User Categorisation[edit]

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Wikimedia Canada[edit]

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