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I don't understand the reference you added [1] to List of comics publishing companies. It said: <ref>Apprise Media L.L.C.</ref>

Is the reference a book? A magazine article? A newspaper article? Something else? I'd be glad to help you learn how to format references but a company name by itself can't be a reference. So just let me know what your source is and we'll figure out how to fix it together. Cloveapple (talk) 03:37, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, should've been this link. I just fixed the ref [[2]].
Thanks for your help, --Mottengott (talk) 03:58, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Slight correction[edit]

I doubt you'll be using this info on your German page for About Comics, but I made a small error in fact when I said that Schulz's Youth was released for the Kindle in February 2008. It was actually released at some point in 2007. --Nat Gertler (talk) 01:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On the Pulse of Morning[edit]

Mottengott, I removed your inclusion of the poem in On the Pulse of Morning because it isn't necessary. If users want to read the poem, they can visit the offsite link provided in "External links". It also makes the article over-long. Please see this for the policy in question: [3]. Thanks. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 05:27, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Cologne Cathedral[edit]

Look harder for what has been described. The brick section is quite large, and is distinguished by the lack of carved Gothic details. Amandajm (talk) 03:46, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Right, my bad. Sorry, --Gott (talk) 14:56, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Zinn Beck[edit]

Hi there. I couldn't help but notice you've added "Zinn Beck" as a notable person in 7 different cities. In one city, Portsmouth, all that was entered was that he managed a baseball team there for a year, with no reference. I'm not sure these are helpful edits. Thanks. Richard Apple (talk) 22:54, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, since the "Notable person" sections are for people either born or otherwise connected to a ciy; it doesn't matter what his connection to said city is, or if he is notable for 2 or 20 cities. About the references, i only add them to "Notable"-sections when the person is notable, but has no own article yet. Every Bluelink will have the ref in its own article, or else i'll add it there. Or am i wrong here? Thanks for feedback, regards, --Gott (talk) 12:20, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for getting back to me, and sorry if I seemed sharp. Like you, I do this because I like to share interesting information with others, and one of my favourite topics is small American towns. When I edit some towns, I sometimes notice that the "notable people" section is filled with names of those who are either not really notable, or have a passing connection to the town. Sometimes these lists are enormous, and don't really add to the article. I suspect these names get added because editors are proud of those people and the huge impact they have had on the community. I'm not a veteran editor or a fanatical follower of rules, but I've found Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline to be a useful guide. It suggests that "notable" means born there, or lived there for a significant amount of time. I've also found that a great way around this is to write that person into the article. In the Portsmouth article, for example, there is a one-paragraph section about its sports teams. A line or two about Zinn Beck, with a reference, would be great. As for adding references, an administrator recently convinced me to add references to everything added to Wikipedia. I had previously just assumed that since the person or topic already had a Wiki article, then what was on that blue-link page was correct. In fact, it often isn't. Relying on other Wiki articles as a reference leads to WP:CIRCULAR, and would require a reader to go to another article for verifiability. Again, thanks for your edits, and sorry to have jumped on you. Richard Apple (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No harm done. I know exactly what you mean, having had the same thoughts myself. To shed some light on what i'm doing why - in my opinion, proper linking and categorizing is essential for a encyclopedia this size and still growing. I often come across said "Notable"-sections in articles filled with people that don't show up in the corresponding category (if existing), or vice versa. Thus i try to synchronize both. I check all people already there and distinguish them between "born" and "lived/worked/died" with bold text, add the persons already categorized, add cats the other way round and add born- and died-years. Wile i'm at it, i go through the other cats, and make minor adjustments, spelling corrections and the like, to the article while "passing by". Needless to say that i add proper refs to the main article, if missing.
Who to add is an entirely different question. Take New York City for example. There is a plethora of people, musicians, artists and so on, moving there. I'm not sure NYians would like to see every notable person taken off their list and just left those actually born there. Adding only people in some way important to a city would also raise another question: where to draw the line? How to decide which non-native is to add to notable sections, and who not? As i see it, every person born, grew up, moved to, worked at, lived or died in a given city, should be added to their notable people section. If getting too long, it can and should always be forked to it's own article. I see absolutly no problem with that as long as everything is ref'd properly and it is apparent who is a native, and who is not.
Thanks for the feedback, and again, no harm done. We both share the same goal, and your work on small towns is very appreciated. Regards, Gott (talk) 17:14, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you take requests?[edit]

Saw you had translated an article at the German-speaking notice board, do you still do that? Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:59, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not recently, but if i can be of any help, i'll be glad to. Gott (talk) 19:56, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If/when you have time, I would like Deutscher Pfadfinderbund (1911–1933) - could be extracted from de:Deutscher Pfadfinderbund (1911–1933), and thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:45, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't mean to make you quiet.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:25, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah damn, i totally forgot your request! I've had too much to do the last weeks ... I'll see to the article asap, it should be in order in one, or two days, tops. Regards, Gott (talk) 21:13, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:28, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As you probably noticed, i havn't been all that active the last few weeks because of some personal problems i had to take care of. I REALLY am sorry for promising something i don't keep in the end ... first thing today, i finally finished the article. Yes, i rushed to complete it, but i'll continue polishing it the next days. If wished, i'll also see to create Deutscher Pfadfinderbund (1945) to complete the topic. Again, i apologize for the delay, normally i'm more reliable. Thanks for your patience, regards, Gott (talk) 01:26, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, sorry, are you okay? Take your time, there is no rush. I've been sick all winter so I understand. Yes, please create Deutscher Pfadfinderbund (1945), but only when you have time.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:31, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah i am now, thanks for asking. You could see by the fact that it took so long, and i even totally forgot about it, that something was going on. I hope you overcame your sickness completly? I'll see to Deutscher Pfadfinderbund (1945) as per de.wiki shortly. Question: Would it make sense, to combine both articles into one (thats why i left the years out of the title for the moment)? Regards, Gott (talk) 02:48, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Good question. I should ask our resident expert on Germanic Scouting to answer best. Hang on.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:33, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Mottengott:They are separate. I've started a stub.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:23, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Ebon degree[edit]

Disambiguation pages are for disambiguating topics in the Wikipedia, not every conceivable topic. See WP:Disambiguation. But the problem is two-fold. I don't disagree that the Ebon degree exists, I've even seen the outside of a Demolay pamphelet about it, but pretty obviously it is either not very important or is part of the insider knowledge that is not shared, hence the lack of sources. The second problem is that even if it were important in the Demolay context, the IP editor here is not content with an ordinary dab entry, but keeps placing a promotional entry on the Ebon page. If you go back in the history, you'll see that I am not the only one to have removed it, nor the first. The IP editor has been inserting this or similar language on the dab page periodically since February 2012 and been consistently reverted by other editors such as Mean as custard and Eluchil404 (see edit), I did not address this issue until December 2013. I did initiate discussion at both Talk:DeMolay International and Talk:Ebon. --Bejnar (talk) 17:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see. As mentioned, i won't look into this, since i know nothing about that. Anyway, i'd still support mentioning Ebon in the dab page, even if not featured prominently in the article about demolay, but i'll leave it as is. I will still change the dab a bit, being that the reason i came across this "edit war" in the first place. Thanks for the answer, regards, Gott (talk) 21:21, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

O'Neill comedies[edit]

No, that's a great edit. Nothing to dicker with there. Thanks. Monkeyzpop (talk) 02:42, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I noticed you removed a 'prod ' from Zhang Jingzhe but did not add any actual refs. Although you added an external link, 'Transfermarkt' is not considered a reliable source by the Wiki football project. Also, the player does not pass WP:NFOOTY as he has not made an appearance in a fully professional league. It is debatable in these circumstances whether the prod can or should be restored, but the page may well be deleted via 'XFD' in the long run. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 13:40, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I was under the impression, the external link provided was enough to at least prove what the article states.

But, I hadn't checked WP:NFOOTY. If the second Chinese league doesn't meet the notability criteria, please feel free to re-insert the prod tag.

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One of my 'colleagues at NFOOTY has added a reliable link (Soccerway). (That and Soccerbase are both considered OK). However he has also restored the 'prod'. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 14:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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