User talk:Mr.Vanker

Demonology and exorcism

Yeah, I'd like to see the demonology articles focus on demonology instead of exorcism as well. (Sociology and psychology are not the study of how to repel people, after all). I'm a bit busy IRL right now, but I'm planning on lumping together most of the individual articles on a number of demons (like Malthus), as has been done with their mentions in popular culture, and then combining that (or linking it) with Classification of demons and then combining that with the Christian demonology page. If I finish that before the Christian demonology section of Demonology is rewritten, then I'll rewrite it then (or perhaps while working on the other stuff). If you want to do anything to that section right now, though, provided you bring in sources, you should have carte-blanche. If anyone reverts your work back to the mess that's there, just put all over the article, leave it for a day, and then change it back.

Well, I'm not sure that I agree with lumping in articles that source Alleister Crowley, and the like (which the Malthus article does). Occult specific things like that don't really, as far as I'm concerned, belong in a Christian specific article or section. I am friends with a priest who has done a lot of work in this field, I'll ask him to see what he thinks about it. [[User:Mr.Vanker| Mr.Vanker]] (talk) 02:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Crowley didn't author the Lemegeton, some medieval individual who would have claimed to be a Christian made that mistake. Most of western occultism is based on mistakes made by people who considered themselves Christians, it was only within the past 150 years that they've really started to realize it was something different. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure where the Lemegeton comes into this, because the article you linked to on Malthus does not mention it. Rather the only citation in the article is:

• S. L. MacGregor Mathers, A. Crowley, The Goetia: The Lesser Key of Solomon the King (1904). 1995 reprint: ISBN 0-87728-847-X.

I'm not trying to be a douche or anything, I'm just trying to sort this out.

The Lemegeton is another name for the The Lesser Key of Solomon. Mathers was a later translator and Crowley an editor, the original text was written some time in the 1600s. All that I've seen, you've only been a good editor and internet-occupant so far, some folks would have decided I was working for Satan by now. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

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