User talk:Mrs rockefeller

Welcome!

Hello Mrs rockefeller, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! — Graibeard 01:41, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image uploads[edit]

Regarding Image:TiffanyPitcher.jpg and other images that you have uploaded, you'll need to add a licence entry for these images otherwise they run the risk of being rapidly deleted. Clearly stating the licence goes a long way to removing any doubt about their copyright status as well as clarifying their usage terms. For example, as the Image:British_hallmarks.jpg description reads at the moment, it sounds as though it's only for the one article. I assume that is not your intention, but without a clear statement (licence) to the contrary one has to accept the implied message.

Uploading the images to the commons is worth considering if you want the images to have the widest available usage, ie: amongst all the wikis.

And do keep up the good work, the article is coming along nicely! — Graibeard 09:13, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bartolozzi[edit]

Dear Mrs rockerfeller, thanks for the message. If you take a photograph of the print it will not be copyrighted under US law. If you add a tag {{PD-old}} when uploading the picture it will appear on the page with this statement "The two-dimensional work of art depicted in this image is in the public domain in the United States and in those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years. Under American copyright law, originality of expression is necessary for copyright protection, and a mere photograph of an out-of-copyright work may not be protected under American copyright law". Then you can add it to whatever article you wish that might seem appropriate.

Yes, 'pinx' is an abbreviation for the Latin term 'pinxit', meaning that she was the original artist. 'Sculp' stands for 'sculpsit' meaning 'engraved'. I'm intrigued that you refer to the print as a lithograph. I am not aware of any lithographs by Bartolozzi. The technique was only invented late in his life. Are you sure it is a lithograph? If it is, it could be a nineteenth century lithographic reproduction of a Bartolozzi stipple-engraving.

No, engravings were not commonly exhibited at the RA, though there were a few engravers who were members, including of course, Bartolozzi himself. I don't know if the Cosway original was exhibited, or Bartolozzi's print, but it should be easy enough to find out. All RA exhibits are listed in the book Royal Academy Exhibitors by Algernon Graves. The size of the print run could vary considerably, depending on how popular a print was. Engravers would sometimes have to re-engrave the plate because it had become worn by printing too many copies (the different versions because of this are known as the "first state", the "second state" etc of the print).

I hope this helps,

Paul B (talk) 18:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I second Paul's note, above, and would wish you to know that we would welcome a photo of the engraving. I think, initially, it would be appropriate to use it on the Maria Cosway page. In order to produce a self-standing article on The Hours, we'd need to have something to say about the engraving (beyond our own commentary on what we can all see (which in wikipedia terms would be "original research".) Detail photos would still be welcome, however, since we can organise a link to a page showing the set of images.

PD-old is the appropriate tag.

You say "A photo of a Tiffany sterling pitcher from my private collection that I put up in Wiki was apparently deleted and moved to the Wikipedia Commons area." That's fine. The commons is another image repository. Images placed on it are accessible from all language wikipedias, whereas images placed on the English wikipedia can only be used on the English wikipedia. So it being moved to the commons - assuming this is what happened - is a good thing. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you recall the filename of the image you uploaded? --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. Answered my own question: TiffanyPitcher.jpg. It is still being used on the Sterling silver article, and I've added it to the (not very good) Tiffany & Co. article. So, very much not deleted, merely moved. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know of any way that photos can be posted temporarily, but if you upload a picture you can replace the file with another one if you are unsatisfied with it. The title appears to be a reference to the opening lines of Gray's poem:

Lo! where the rosy-bosomed Hours,
Fair Venus' train, appear,
Disclose the long-expecting flowers,
And wake the purple year!
The Attic warbler pours her throat,
Responsive to the cuckoo's note,
The untaught harmony of spring:
While, whisp'ring pleasure as they fly,
Cool Zephyrs thro' the clear blue sky
Their gathered fragrance fling.

It could be placed on the Thomas Gray page. Alternatively, the poem itself could be put on Wikisource, along with the image, just as Gray's poem Ode on the Death of a Favourite Cat, Drowned in a Tub of Gold Fishes has been added with Blake's illustrations. Paul B (talk) 00:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mrs rockefeller, you may be interested in this article Jacques-Louis David's Anglophilia on the Eve of the French Revolution, by Philippe Bordes, in The Burlington Magazine, 1992. It reproduces the engraving of The Hours on p. 485 and says that Cosway sent Bartolozzi's print to David, who replied "on ne peut pas faire une poesie plus ingenieuse et plus naturelle". Paul B (talk) 11:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scioto Company[edit]

Please see Scioto Company and Talk:Scioto Company for solution to your problem. Roseohioresident (talk) 22:30, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]