User talk:Narraburra

August 2023

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Thomas Wedgwood (photographer), but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 07:23, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt intervention. In extreme old age (89) I am a new contributor to Wikipedia; fault has been remedied. Narraburra (talk) 07:46, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

September 2023

Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Buruli ulcer, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. I personally appreciate the historical information, however, per Wikipedia rules, those assumptions would have to be cited by a reliable source before they are accepted in the article, especially since it's a Featured Article. The author's own book can only be a source to his own personal experience, not to the connetion with Buruli ulcer. Happy editing, thank you. Sto0pinismo^0_o 10:51, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for that. I posted the the material before completion. I have now reduced the extract from the book and added references, together with the print of Grant leaving Karague. A complete article has been published: Hayman J.  The discovery of the Bairnsdale ulcer and the source of the Nile.  In: Attwood H, Kenny G, eds.  Reflections on medical history and health in Australia. Melbourne, Medical History Unit, University of Melbourne, 1987: 71- 7., but this reference is not readily available. The extract was also part of my MD by thesis (UniMelb) but this has still to be placed on the internet.

One reason for my proposed addition is that I feel that James Augustus deserves better posthumous recognition; his book makes fascinating reading.

I note that the references I added look grossly untidy in the reference list. Advice as to present suitability of my additions and instruction as to how to tidy up the references (if they are to remain) would be appreciated.

With best wishes,

John Hayman (aka 'Narraburra' – Aust aboriginal = 'stoney ground') Narraburra (talk) 01:18, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, Narraburra, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Many thanks for your guidance; much appreciated. I will do my best to comply. I do not see myself as an expert in anything but I do enjoy putting up ideas and having them knocked down; this has happened frequently back in my professional days (vide Mycobacterium ulcerans: an infection from Jurassic time?). However I will now refrain from directly citing my own papers.

WBW Narraburra (talk) 22:34, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Great! Since I "pinged" them with my post in the section below, you might hear from both Ajpolino and Dave souza-- two very good editors who will probably offer ideas about your papers in the areas of Buruli ulcer and Darwin's health. Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:26, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

COI welcome

Hi John Hayman (aka 'Narraburra'); thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It's an honor to have an expert among us!

It is important that you read and digest the information I posted just above this, as Wikipedia's COI policy means you should not really be citing yourself in articles. The better thing to do is to make a post to the talk page of the article, inquiring whether another editor would add content from the sources authored by you.

It may be helpful for you to become familiar with Wikipedia's manual of style for medical content (which includes mention of notable individuals with conditions), as well as Wikipedia's guidelines for sourcing medical content.

Separately, you may be interested in making the acquaintance of Ajpolino, the editor who brought the Buruli ulcer article to featured status, or Dave souza, who brought Charles Darwin to featured article status; both of them may be interested in the research you cited at Health of Charles Darwin. Happy editing, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:36, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi Narraburra, like you, I've got a longstanding interest in tropical diseases (broadly construed; though recently my time on Wikipedia has been pulled to more mundane articles like lung cancer and now prostate cancer). I've been around long enough to know my way around Wikipedia's sometimes byzantine (sometimes bizarre) rules, norms, etc. If there's anything I can help you with as you get started, or if there's ever an article you'd like to work together on, just let me know. Happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 20:20, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Dear Ajpolino, Thank you for your contact. I am now much more aware of Wikipedia rules; I can see the need for them and will try always to abide with them. However I do have an overwhelming desire to show that Charles Darwin had a 'real' inherited mitochondrial illness rather than all the psychological/psychogenic, arsenical poisoning, 'systemic' lactose intolerance ideas that has been proposed for his multi system disorder. I certainly have been guilty of pushing this proposal but to me it is so obvious that this is the correct diagnosis, explaining all of his symptoms together with the strange illnesses that afflicted his Wedgwood maternal forebears and Darwin's siblings. And the psychological theories are still being promulgated by evolution deniers/ flat earth people. Enough! I do appreciate the immense value of Wikipedia and would like to add to this resource rather than in any way diminishing its value.

I do have some more controversial papers in production but I promise to send them to you or to others rather than any direct editing. How about: 'Sexual Orientation in Twins: Evidence that Human Sexual Identity may be determined five days following Fertilisation', written with a senior, also retired gynaecological pathologist. Would you be prepared to read the draft?

With best wishes,

John Hayman (aka "Narraburra") Narraburra (talk) 22:47, 11 September 2023 (UTC)