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Enabling Java script[edit]

How I can enable java script on my account. Sinner (talk) 04:26, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not javascript will work for you is a function of your browser and its settings. If you can edit WP pages at all, it's because of javascript code running in your browser. It's possible to browse Wikipedia without working javascript (though I'm pretty sure it would look strange).

So maybe you need to explain a bit more about what you would like to do and what's not working about it. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:00, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@jmcgnh, when I go to see current pages, I get a notice that this function needs java script enabled, that's why I want to enable java script. I can edit pages at all, but my browser or account do not have java script enabled. I want to ask how I can enable java script on my account/browser to be enable to see current pages. Sinner (talk) 06:21, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I remember you said at one point that you had an internet connection that only allowed you to view Wikipedia and not the rest of the internet. I wonder if that could have something to do with it.

And I'm unclear on what you mean by "current pages". — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:56, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@jmcgnh, That's right, I've such internet connection, "Current pages" means newly created pages in en.wikipedia that you can see in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges in 'utilities' section. I am unable to see these newly created pages even in wikipedia without java script. This option requires java script. I need java script to browse this option to see current pages. Sinner (talk) 07:11, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I'm a bit stumped. I'm working on a Chromebook at the moment and even setting a block for js from Wikipedia.com, i'm still getting full functionality and can't reproduce your problem. I'm away tomorrow, but if someone else has not come along to help you out, I can try on a different computer to see if I can block js for real, then maybe I can get some ideas. Sorry. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:38, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

sup> @Cordless Larry, Theroadislong, and 331dot: may be able to help. Sinner (talk) 09:36, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, that's outside my areas of knowledge. 331dot (talk) 09:38, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am using Chrome 60.0.3112.101 now with JavaScript disabled. No problem with seeing my Watched pages, no problem with seeing Recent changes, no problem with seeing and editing your Talk page. --CiaPan (talk) 10:30, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@CiaPan: I also can do all of them with Opera, when I go to see "New pages" in utilities section, it says I need java script to visit that page. Please tell me how you enable and disable java script on your computer? Sinner (talk) 11:33, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I have no idea what you're talking about. I have no 'Utilities' section in the side menu, but I have 'tools'. And its contents depends on what kind of Wikipedia page I'm looking at – whether it's a main page, an article, my own watchlist, someone else's talk page... Anyway it never shows any 'New pages' link. However, I have 'Recent changes' link – but that's in the 'interaction' section.:(
Moreover, you asked about Special:RecentChanges first, now you ask about some 'New pages'. Do you mean Special:NewPages? I can access that, too. But that is a dynamic list created on the fly, and is is not editable, either with Javascript or without it.
What concerns turning Javascript on or off, I click a three-dots button at the right end of the address bar, then invoke 'Settings', which opens a chrome://settings/ page. I scroll down to 'Advanced' and find the 'Contents settings' in the 'Privacy and security' section. Once I'm there I click 'JavaScript' and choose an off/on switch.
But I doubt the above description applies to your browser if it's not Chrome... --CiaPan (talk) 12:11, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I'm not sure if all captions above are correct, I do not know their original version, I just tried to translate them from my language to English. CiaPan (talk)

I'm afraid I wasn't able to reproduce the symptom you report, so I am out of ideas. I'm glad CiaPan has taken a look. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:30, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have no knowledge of JavaScript, so I am unable to help, and I note that you are now blocked in any case. I am confused, though, about your claim to have an internet connection that is restricted to viewing Wikipedia, and yet at the same time you were able to write articles and drafts based on material from other websites. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:05, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cordless Larry, I have been blocked for just moving an article to Draft space for improvement. I do not believe the block without any chance is valid. Regarding internet connection, I am currently using Jazz Pakistan. It allows me to browse all internet 10 minutes a day. I browse and save the pages that are important to me during these 10 minutes. After those ten minutes, I view the pages and add the information to wikipedia, that I can use throughout the day. Sinner (talk) 13:39, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Well, that explains that. I note that you also removed an AfD tag from the same article, and presume that that contributed to you being blocked. If you feel that you have been blocked unjustly though, you need to appeal it rather than explain your behaviour to me. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:53, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

August 2017[edit]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove an Articles for deletion notice or a comment from an AfD discussion, as you did at Pornography in Saudi Arabia. Did you simply miss the big bold letters that state quite clearly that AfD templates are not to be removed and articles at AfD are not to be blanked? Or do you think that somehow they do not apply to you? Anything you contribute to Wikipedia becomes irrevocably Wikipedia's property the second you press the save button. Although the AfD discussion has not closed, the consensus is this is not a notable subject and is sufficiently covered in an existing article. The only objection was from you. You do not have the right to unilaterally override consensus. Your actions here and elsewhere do not bode well for your future as a Wikipedian, and I am not the first to tell you this. Time to start listening. John from Idegon (talk) 01:35, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for disruptive editing, inability to show an understanding of or ability to adhere to any behavioral standards. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. —SpacemanSpiff 02:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John from Idegon, I did not know it was disruption, you gave me one chance, and SpacemanSpiff has blocked me without any chance, please give me this one chance, l shall not do anything like this again. Sinner (talk) 14:52, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of Draft:Chak Choti Shafi[edit]

Draft:Chak Choti Shafi, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Chak Choti Shafi and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Chak Choti Shafi during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:13, 4 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Wheel construction for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Wheel construction is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wheel construction until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Hagennos (talk) 18:52, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

After 3 Years Reply[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Saair (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm thankful to NinjaRobotPirate for reviewing my request and to 331dot and Spaceman for their constructive comments.

As a fact, I was blocked 3 years ago for non-constructive behavior and manners. I would like to discuss them here:

Sock Accounts

As I confessed in my previous request, I had 5 sock accounts. All of them had been blocked by November 23, 2017 (more than 3 years ago). I did not create any sock account after that, therefore, no account has been blocked as my sock since then. I don't have any other account at present and I promise I won't create any sock account in future.

Nonconstructive editing

3 years ago, I made more edits to talk pages (59%) than to actual articles (41%). If I am unblocked, I shall make more edits to the articles and shall contact other users only and if necessary. I won't waste anyone's time anymore.

Future Horizons

It's not that all my edits were nonconstructive. I made constructive edits too. Here is the list of the articles I created that are still a part of the encyclopedia:

During my block at English Wikipedia, I have been active on other language Wikipedias like Fiji Hindi Wikipedia and Urdu Wikipedia. I created a few articles there like hif:Muhammad Ali Jinnah and ur:یشمک. I have also uploaded a few pictures to wikimedia commons.

If I'm unblocked, I shall not violate community standards anymore and shall make constructive editing. As Spaceman said above, I should not edit articles related to geography of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan as it is considered I shall not be able to edit them constructively. I have read and well understood community standards and guidelines and I promise I shall abide by them. Please consider I have been blocked for more than 3 years. Its a very long period of time. If I'm unblocked, you will never see any violations from me in future.

If you have any questions, please ask me. I hope to see a positive response from you. Sinner (speak) 10:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Accept reason:

With your agreement with the topic ban, I will remove the block. The topic ban will be logged at WP:AEL and you may appeal the topic ban after six months(so not before the beginning of August). Good luck. 331dot (talk) 09:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As a note, I fixed your unblock request so that the template works properly. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with this conditional unblock -- WP:ARBIPA TBAN from geography (places etc) articles for India/Pakistan/Afghanistan for at least six months, appealable then to either the unblocking admin or AN/AE. —SpacemanSpiff 12:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Spaceman, I shall abide by WP:ARBIPA. I shall not edit articles related to the geography of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan for at least six months when I shall request the admins to consider and give me permission if I can edit those articles. I promise to abide by all the community guidelines and standards. Regards! Sinner (speak) 02:15, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot: your call as you were evaluating the unblock request. —SpacemanSpiff 03:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot, thank you so much!❤🙏 I'm feeling excited to be unblocked after such a long period of time. Sinner (speak) 10:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:331dot, it's been over an year, please remove the topic ban on WP:ARBIPA. Thanks! Sinner (speak) 16:29, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please appeal your topic ban at WP:AN. 331dot (talk) 17:38, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Roseate sonnet moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Roseate sonnet, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:56, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Nazim ZarSinner for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nazim ZarSinner is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nazim ZarSinner until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Cordless Larry (talk) 19:59, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

April 2022[edit]

Hello, I'm Cordless Larry. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Ghazal have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:06, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Roseate sonnet[edit]

Hello, Saair. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Roseate sonnet, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:39, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Roseate sonnet[edit]

Hello, Saair. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Roseate sonnet".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:55, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Coastline of Madagascar[edit]

Hello, Saair. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Coastline of Madagascar, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 09:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]