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To Nccwebmaster[edit]

>>> We thank you for showing interest in the NCC Wiki entry. We noticed that you have been reverting entries pertaining to our Senior Pastor that had no basis of truth. We asked that you would stop reverting the entries and start contribute out of goodwill for the Christian community and also for the Wiki community.

First of all, I would like to bring to your attention that the Wiki entry on NCC or Joseph Prince does not belong to you. It belongs to Wiki. Anyone who has new knowledge about the subject matter can edit and contribute. The objective is to add new knowledge for the public consumption. Important thing is that in stating anything, there should be a reference backup to support the fact written.

Secondly, what I've written is the truth. I did not make up the controversy. Everything was picked up from what has been reported in the The Straits Times unless you wish to challenge the validity of the reporting?

I ask that you should be the one who should stop deleting my entries and stop trying to erase the truth from the minds of the people. Didn't Joseph Prince earn more than $500,000 last year? If so, what is so shameful about it that you have to constantly delete this fact from wiki? If one has the ability to earn $500,000 a year, certainly one shouldn't hide his capabilities, should he?

Wiki is not just for Christians. It's for all people to read and to know.

>>> We (the New Creation Church Web Team) will continue to monitor this Wiki Entry faithfully and will perform necessary action to revert what is not true on this article. We apologise if it is rude to you in any way and we will be constantly seeking a Christ exalting solution to this situation.

You are not only rude but certainly very irresponsible in trying to hide facts. This certainly reflects the hypocrisy of you being a Christian. You are no better than the Japanese who are trying to whitewash their history books to say that they did not invade SE Asia countries or Nanjing Massacre did not happen in WW2!

We the people will likewise continue to perform the necessary action to stop you from hiding the truth.

>>> We also like to welcome you to attend one of our church service, and all information can be found in our official website: www.newcreation.org.sg, and should you have any question or prayer request, we would love to meet you face to face and be a support to you the best way we can.

I don't think I want to attend a church who encourages its members not telling the truth or worse, to hide truth.

>>> We love you, because He first loved us, and we will be praying for you and may Daddy God bless you abundantly above all you could ask or think.

Here's a reminder to you as a Christian: Thou shall not lie!


Ahnan (talk) 08:32, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Ahnan for viewing your thoughts here, we still love you and appreciate everything you have done for the body of Christ, God bless you richly and abundantly. =)

Nccwebmaster (talk) 09:17, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To Nccwebmaster[edit]

>>> We agreed that you have every single right to post anything on this wiki, and as much as any other wiki. We believe you have every right to believe in anything you read/percieve and we totally respect that, as Jesus has paid for that right.

Er... I believe you are confused. I have the right to say anything or to believe in anything because I have my own independent thought. I don't think it has got to do with Jesus.


>>> As mentioned that we continue to seek a Christ exalting solution to this situation and has reported to a Wiki Administrator on this wiki entry. And we will let them make the final call as you have stated correctly in your reply that it is only right that you post what you believe is correct.

Likewise, I've also reported the situation to the Administrator. I believe there is a conflict of interest where you being the webmaster of NCC is allowed to edit this entry. Obviously, it would in your interest to "exalt" NCC and Joseph Prince and remove all unfavorable comments about Joseph Prince. Such acts only reflect the hypocrisy on your part.

Do you deny that your pastor Joseph Prince earns more than $500,000 a year? Do you deny that he lives in district 10? Do you deny that he owns an expensive European car? Do you deny that all these material wealth he has comes from the weekly offerings and contributions of the congregation?


>>> We thank you for continuing contributing to the Christian community and this Wikipedia, and may Daddy God bless you even much more to come.


I would be thankful if you don't go around deleting stuff that you don't like to hear. However unfavorable the comments are with regard to NCC and Joseph Prince, as long as they are supported by facts, let the comments be published and seen by all. Let the readers decide for themselves once they hear both sides of the story.


>>> Thank you Ahnan for viewing your thoughts here, we still love you and appreciate everything you have done for the body of Christ, God bless you richly and abundantly. =)

I don't know you and you don't know me, why should you go around loving me? Speak the truth. Don't be a hypocrite. Besides, I'm doing this not for the body of Christ but to give an objective and more balanced view of Joseph Prince to the public.


Ahnan (talk) 14:33, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are being discussed[edit]

You are being discussed at the conflict of interest noticeboard here: Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#User:Nccwebmaster due to your recent editing. You are welcome to comment in the discussion. Please take note of these guidelines:

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Due to your removal of content I must give you the following warning:

Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Smartse (talk) 15:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your exceptional civility.[edit]

Civility Award
Welcome to Wikipedia. For your exceptional civility while handling a dispute, even in your 1st week of being here and while others were not extending that same civility to you, I award you this barnstar. You may proudly display it on your userpage. Mishlai (talk) 06:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be a pain[edit]

Hi, I noticed in your posts that you used "we" when discussing edits. I just wanted to point out that sharing accounts with others is generally not permitted. If multiple people are using this account may I suggest that you create separate accounts instead. Thanks. Smartse (talk) 15:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are being discussed[edit]

I have reported you to the conflict of interest noticeboard here : Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#New_Creation_Church_.28Singapore.29 you are welcome to comment in the discussion. Smartse (talk) 11:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

June 2009[edit]

Your account has been blocked from editing Wikipedia, because it appears to be mainly intended or used for promotional purposes of a company or group. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Organization and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest.

In addition, accounts are for individuals only, not for companies or groups or other collective editing, and your username should reflect this.

Wikipedia is not a promotion website; this kind of activity is considered spam on Wikipedia, and forbidden by policies, and usernames that appear to be promotional also violate our username policy. Editing on Wikipedia is not intended to be used to promote anyone, or anything, and its use for that purpose will result in blocking of the account involved.

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