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    • Finished valueview refactoring. Created new extension “ValueView”
    • Implemented string formatter
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    • Deployment of phase 2 on English Wikipedia is currently planned for April 8. The remaining Wikipedias are scheduled for April 10. As usual this might change if we run into problems along the way.
    • There is now a page showing the current lag for changes propagating to the Wikipedias so they can show up in watchlists and recent changes for example. This should ideally be in the range of a few minutes. Right now it is higher because of some abnormally high bot activity but decreasing. Should be down to a few minutes soon.
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Wikidata weekly summary #53[edit]

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  • Development
    • Got some external professional review of our code and architecture and started working on their feedback
    • Worked on reducing the dispatch lag (the time it takes for changes on Wikidata to be sent to the Wikipedias for display in watchlist, recent changes and to purge affected pages)
    • Worked on using Redis for job queue to improve the lag situation even further
    • Created new Wikibase Query extension for phase 3 functionality
    • Autocomments & Autosummaries for SetClaim module
    • Worked on the GeoCoordinate parser
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    • Deployment of phase 2 on the remaining Wikipedias was delayed because of a high lag of changes being propagated to the Wikipedias. The lag has been reduced considerably now and is going down even more. The new date for deployment will not be next week because there are other large changes on Wikimedia infrastructure scheduled that we do not want to interfere with. It will hopefully happen very soon after that though.
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    • Reasonator was improved and extended (1 2)
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ml.wiki[edit]

Netha Would it be a good idea to join this one? I mean the malayalam translation work....? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Htharayil (talkcontribs) 12:30, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 15 April 2013[edit]

Wikidata weekly summary #54[edit]

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  • Development
    • Dispatch lag is now down to 0 so changes should show up very quickly on the Wikipedias in watchlists and recent changes
    • wikidata.org now always redirects to www.wikidata.org. This should among other things solve the issue where people were not able to edit when on wikidata.org (bugzilla:45005)
    • Fixed weird blocked-user/protected-page handling in UI (bugzilla:45140)
    • Final meetings for the external professional review of our code and architecture. They were quite happy with the quality of the codebase and gave useful tips for improvements
    • Worked on automatic summaries for editing claims
    • Investigation of different JavaScript frameworks dealing with date and time
    • Worked on using Redis and the job queue for change notifications to clients
    • Work on the storage code for answering queries
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    • upcoming: Opensource Treffen
    • upcoming: intro to Wikidata at the British Library
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Thanks[edit]

Hey thanks for the women's day award Urbashi (talk) 14:42, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome! Netha (talk) 14:49, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pending release of Notifications[edit]

Hey Netha Hussain :). I'm dropping you a note because you have signed up for the Notifications, or Echo, newsletter.

If all goes according to plan, we should be launching Echo on en-wiki either tomorrow, or next Tuesday - I'll drop a followup tomorrow when we know what's happening. Should the launch succeed, we'll begin the process of triaging bugs and gathering feedback on what features work, what cause problems, and what we should do next; I hope you'll help us out on these fronts by leaving any comments you might have on the talkpage.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:04, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 29 April 2013[edit]

For being the powerful Wiki-Women[edit]

Best Indian Wiki-Woman
You are not just special but a powerful Wiki-Women we have. Thank you for all your effort in coordinating International Women's day edit-a-thons and related events. Keep spreading your wiki-energy!! Vishnu 08:44, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the trophy and the WikiLove message. WikiLoves back to you, too! -- Netha (talk) 01:17, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Notifications box replacement prototypes released[edit]

Hey Netha Hussain; Kaldari has finished scripting a set of potential replacements available to test and give feedback on. Please go to this thread for more detail on how to enable them. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 15:02, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Events/Press
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    • Newest properties: catalog code (P528), runway (P529), diplomatic relation (P530), diplomatic mission sent (P531), diplomatic mission sent (P531), port of registry (P532), target (P533), streak color (P534), Find a Grave (P535), ATP id (P536), twinning (P537), fracturing (P538), Museofile (P539)
    • Newest task forces: Ship task force
    • d:Template:Constraint:Item allows to check if items using a given property also have other properties. To find items to fix, it links to one of Magnus' tools and to a daily report. Sample: items with property mother should also have main type (GND) with value person.
  • Development
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    • Worked on content negotiation for the RDF export
    • Bugfixing for editing of time datatype
    • Added validation in the api for claim guids. This also resolves bug 48473, an exception being thrown in production, whenever a bot or api user requested a claim with an invalid claim guid
    • Improved error message popup bubbles to show HTML and parse the links correctly
    • Fixed bug 48679, to hide the view source tab for item and property pages
    • Testing on Diff extension and SQLstore
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A barnstar for you![edit]

The Original Barnstar
For getting selected for the Wikimania, for making Wiki a better place for all of us, for being there always. :D Anandtr2006 (talk) 11:44, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit-a-thon Invitation[edit]

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Use the hashtag #GlamCHF and write your favorite scientist or chemist into Wikipedian history!

We'd love to have you participate Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:00, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the invite, Mary! I have posted my reply on the event page. -- Netha (talk) 18:41, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If your time zone doesn't match up well with the times we're working, feel free to work before or after that time and use the hashtag #GlamCHF so we can see what you're working on! I understand though that it's more fun to work at the same time so you can see the tweets going out. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 23:23, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I missed the day :( Some articles on the project page requires creation, I think I can still work on them and create as much as stub-class articles. -- Netha (talk) 18:29, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia Library now offering accounts from Cochrane Collaboration (sign up!)[edit]

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Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 20:25, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know! I am not sure if I would become an active editor in medicine anytime soon, so I think it is best not to apply for the access right now. Cheers! -- Netha (talk) 17:56, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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medicines and side effects[edit]

My doc advises to take an albendazole 400 mg tablet every month or two , so as to clear my system of worms , how much shld I be taking without effecting my nervous system ther are always side effects im 18 ? Is ther any way to take medicines safely ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.136.233.142 (talk) 19:06, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A cupcake for you[edit]

yes it is cupcake and you can eat it with imagine Hima fethus (talk) 15:15, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Keyboards for Indian languages[edit]

Hi Netha, I just watched your presentation via video. You mentioned the difficulty to edit in Indian languages. As I am doing wikistats, I have always been interested to learn why most editing in India occurs on English pages. I heard several times that part of it is that most people who can afford computers are educated in English, and motivated to enhance their English language skills. You point out that writing in other languages on an English keyboard is difficult. I can imagine! I was wondering will this issue become less important when tablets become more affordable and ubiquitous, which I'm sure will happen in the coming years. India even launched a quite cheap tablet recently I believe. With on screen keyboards people can switch from one language to another easily. Have you experienced editing in a local language on a tablet? Does that already work? I believe most Indian languages are alphabet based, so the sheer size of the character set shouldn't be a problem, like it would be in Chinese or Japanese. Any thoughts on this? Cheers, Erik Zachte (talk) 15:31, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A bilingual keyboard
Hi Erik, Thank you for the message and for watching the video! Yes, it is hard to type Indian languages using English keyboards. The Indic language I speak has 56 letters in its alphabet. Some laptop manufacturers have built bilingual keyboards, but they are not very popular and are available only in widely spoken languages such as Hindi. The higher socio-economic class in India are educated in English since pre-school levels, and can handle English in a professional level. They are therefore more likely to look up the English Wikipedia for information than an Indic language Wikipedia. Assuming that the reader is more likely to contribute to the language Wikipedia she is reading the most, I think Indians are more likely to contribute to English Wikipedia than the regional language Wikipedias.

Mobile phones are ubiquitous in India now, but tablets are yet to be popular. The government of India has launched the 'Akash' tablet for students but they are sold on a limited scale. I don't own a tablet, and I do not know how typing on it will be like - but I am guessing that it would be definitely simpler to type an Indic language on a tablet than typing on a conventional keyboard. I hadn't given much of a thought into this before you raised this question, so I think I should definitely borrow a tablet and find out how different the typing experience is!
On most mobile phones (especially those running on Windows and Symbian), it is not possible by default to view Indic script. The phone shows squares instead of the Indic language character. I worked around the problem by installing Opera Mini browser, and displaying the characters as bitmap images. Similar issue could exist on tablets too, though I am not sure. -- Netha (talk) 11:32, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Netha, that is very insightful. I was not expecting Windows Mobile to be that lacking. Microsoft did well in the font department (on desktops) with MS Unicode, which supports really many scripts (but of course has other disadvantages, being not open). Android is already the standard for low costs tablets. I'll ask Siebrand Mazeland, WMF Product Manager Language Engineering, if he has any experience with this. Cheers, Erik Zachte (talk) 15:36, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Android 4.2 and later versions support most Indian languages. (Samsung models have included the support from Android 2.3.7(?). So Smartphones and Tablets will be better for Indian language users from the point of browsing, but People may have to use conventional keyboards for improved speed of typing. --Arjunaraoc (talk) 04:56, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In the few Windows (Nokia ASHA) phones I worked with, Malayalam (ml) script was not enabled by default. I am not sure if it holds true everywhere. Windows 7 and above supports Indic script. Not sure about Windows XP and earlier versions. I work on a Windows 7 OS laptop, which supports at least 8 Indic scripts. Netha (talk) 16:14, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We've developed mw:Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector to make things easier. Currently we support web fonts and input methods for most larger languages from India. Within the current WMF fiscal year, we also expect to add en:Virtual keyboard support in the extension. No detailed planning for delivery or features is not available yet. Bug reports and ideas in bugzilla: are highly appreciated. Siebrand (talk) 12:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Query regarding Online Ambassador Programme[edit]

Hi Netha,

I'm new to this ecosystem of Wikipedia, how do I start or enroll for the Online ambassador programme?

Kindly help.

Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rastogi.akshat248 (talkcontribs) 10:57, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Assignment for medi-graphics[edit]

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Query on Template[edit]

Hi Netha.. How r u?

I'm Aby John Mathew from Kerala. I was your junior at school. Hope you remember me.

I've a question. Can I use this particular template for my user page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:User_info

I am really sorry to bother you but it would be great if you can help me.

Thanks

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Paraphrasing[edit]

This is required. One cannot cut and paste content word for word from the sources. Please fix [1] Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:28, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]