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Ana Mesquita (artist)[edit]

Dear Netherzone, thank you for your feedback on the page of Ana Mesquita (artist) - I believe I understood your views on the quality of the page although I disagree with some of the harsher comments - Portugal is a small country and the artistic scene has been enriched by many women artists that pursue less traditional forms of visual arts and privilege collaboration with other artists in multimedia formats - and Ana Mesquita is one of them.

I fear that my lack of experience in writing for Wikipedia while following best-practices may have colored the approach to this page - but wish to press on and write this page better and move on to write other pages - I live in Portugal and in Norway and am interested in furthering the visibility of artists and scientists of both countries in an environment that is, often, rather English-centric both in culture and in language.

English is presently both the "official language of internet" and the official language of several countries (USA and UK, etc.) which tends to create a slightly negative bias on the perception of cultural relevance of non-English artists and scientists. It is a problem that I hope to mitigate in my humble way, article by article.

Thanks again

Port norw (talk) 00:16, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Netherzone, I was traveling between Portugal and Norway but now have found that the page has changed status.
Is there any way I can go into it and change it back so I can edit it?
Thank you for your time!
Vasco Port norw (talk) 15:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024[edit]



Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 2023 picture is from the Abel Fest in Köthen, celebrating the tercentenary of Carl Friedrich Abel, a viol virtuoso, composer and concert organiser in London (together with Bach's youngest son), born on 22 December 1723 in Köthen, where the new catalogue of his works was introduced, - my story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for support! - I have a DYK on the Main page, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course! It's a shame you had to endure that nonsense. Thanks for the link to "this Figaro" - WOW! Netherzone (talk) 17:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for liking what I saw and wanted to tell! - I have endured the attitude that looks like censoring to me - keeping facts about opera away from the Main page, arguing that opera singers only do there job - for years, and see some light, that it may change, thanks to comments like yours. You can comment in the DYK nom for Anna Nekhames (they are always on the talk page, and also on my user page.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, I just sent you an email. Netherzone (talk) 18:38, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. - On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
story · music · places
Thank you for improving articles in January! I remember Ewa Podleś on the Main page, and had - believe it or not - two musical DYK today. Shalom chaverim. On vacation, yes, that island again, with something for your sweet tooth --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today: the performance of Anna Nekhames, the article in which a reviewer found nothing interesting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reviewer found nothing interesting? Speaking as a fellow editor, who knows nothing about opera other than what I've learned from you (and the few performances I've seen) the original hook that began with this: that coloratura soprano Anna Nekhames performed first in the Bolshoi Theatre's children's chorus immediately drew me in. Why? Precisely because I was unfamiliar with the term, coloratura soprano. As a inquisitive person I wanted to learn more. Secondly because I had no idea that the Bolshoi Theatre had a children's chorus. A hook not only draws in those who are familiar, but more importantly (at least to my way of thinking) draws in readers who are NOT familiar with a subject. The value in this IMO is that it shares knowledge, which is a fundamental goal of the encyclopedia. One reviewer's personal opinion of what constitutes "interestingness" should not have such influence over what appears on the main page. I'm so sorry that your valuable and well-crafted contributions have been undergoing such subjective scrutiny. Keep on doing what you are doing, Gerda. You are amazing, and appreciated! Netherzone (talk) 23:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, feel understood! Same thing for Tamara Milashkina. - Taking tons of pictures, 23 chosen for 23 Jan, 6 uploaded, too tired for more - on my talk you see that it's the birthday of Mozart and our conductor ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:04, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This photo is beautiful - like a wild haired firework creature the color of the sun. Netherzone (talk) 00:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nature speaks so well to you! - Today a friend's birthday, with related music and a few new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OMG Gerda! This! Looks! So! Good! Yes nature speaks to me, but so does food. :)
Platter of grilled seafood, Charco Azul, La Palma
Netherzone (talk) 22:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Netherzone: Sorry, I meant to get back to you. I was going to leave a comment, and had some stuff prepared but never got around to it as I was stuck in WP:NPP. Next time I'll be more observant. scope_creepTalk 16:17, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there @Scope creep, no worries at all. I considered your comment very seriously because I think you have excellent judgement. The AfD turned out well, and I learned some things about rap music in Iran. See you around! Netherzone (talk) 16:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chiara Fumai[edit]

Dear Netherzone, I have created an article Chiara Fumai that has been reviewed , but it is still not indexed by search engines. Could you please help me understand what happened? Hermann Heilner Giebenrath (talk) 22:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've exported the short description to WikiData. Keep an eye on the search engines in the next few days to see if it shows up. If not, perhaps you should reach out to the WP:TEAHOUSE or to the WP:HELPDESK. Netherzone (talk) 22:10, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, Hermann Heilner Giebenrath thanks for creating the article; she was a great artist. Netherzone (talk) 22:27, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! It worked right away. Yes, she was a brilliant artist--Hermann Heilner Giebenrath (talk) 22:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your discrimination against me[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Fjnovoa (talk) 02:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fjnovoa indefinitely blocked per discussion outcome. Netherzone (talk) 04:14, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Seldon_Charles_Forrester_Farmer[edit]

Hi Thank you for your suggestions to improve this article and make it more reflective of the Wikipedia style of presentation. I believe I have done this now and hope it is now sufficiently robust to warrant publication. Many thanks for your assistance. Zaccwm (talk) 16:29, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Zaccwm, thank you for your message. I will have a look at it when I find a moment. Could you please use the draft talk page for communications regarding the draft rather than my user talk page? That way, the conversation will be seen by other reviewers and editors who have seen the draft. Thanks! Netherzone (talk) 16:38, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do apologies, the protocols for wikis seem more challenging than expected. Zaccwm (talk) 19:12, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Purdy Notability[edit]

Hi @Netherzone, I hope this finds you well. Just a question, wouldn't Graeme Purdy be notable by Wikipedia:Notability (people) part 1., by their silver Sony World Photography Award? Thank you, ArtDataArt (talk) 16:33, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ArtDataArt, thank you for your message. I'll look into it when I find a moment - today is a busy one for me. Please use the article talk page for communications on how to improve the article, rather than my user talk page. This will allow for more eyes and discussion input. I will look into the Sony Photo awards, but I doubt that is enough (esp. since it's a 2nd place award). Normally for artists the kind of notable awards that count are things like the Guggenheim Fellowship, National Endowment for the Arts awards, the Turner Prize, a MacArthur grant, Pollock-Krasner Foundation grant, the Joan Miro prize, Royal Photographic Society, and the like. Hope that helps! Netherzone (talk) 16:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Netherzone,

I was familiar with User:L'Origine du monde from about 2015 and decided to spend some time today figuring out what they did to receive an indefinite block and it seems a lot of it had to do with their conduct on this article and its talk page. I was wondering since you spend some time in 2023 cleaning up the article whether the tag about having a "closely connected" editor can be removed. If you were referring to L'Origine du monde, they are blocked now and won't be editing it any longer and I assume you removed the inappropriate content. I'm not proxying for L'Origine du monde, I haven't had content with them since their first indefinite block years ago. But since I was reviewing the article as part of my search for information, I was wondering if you believed the tag was still appropriate. If "yes", then so be it but since you are more familiar with the page than I am, I thought you were the best person to ask. Many thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 02:06, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz, thank you for reaching out about the A&L article. It has been a while, and I can't remember if did a final check of the article but will do so today. That interchange in 2023 with L'OdM was challenging, and I would never think you would be proxying. Thanks for the heads up - I will let you know about the maintenance tag here or on the article talk page once I do a read thru this morning. Netherzone (talk) 13:50, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Liz, I did a final pass, and cleaned up a bit of material that gave undue weight to an occasional member of the collective. The editor who added it, Aradicus77 was blocked for promo/advertising. It looks fine now - COI template has been removed. Thanks again for your reminder, I appreciate it. Netherzone (talk) 14:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC) Courtesy ping Liz Netherzone (talk) 14:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February music[edit]

story · music · places

My calendar story today is about Michael Herrmann celebrating his birthday. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I love the idea of bringing concerts into vinyards! Netherzone (talk) 23:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Me too! The New York Philharmonic, however, wanted a decent hall ;) - Today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She is still up on the Main Page in my part of the world! Netherzone (talk) 16:11, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She? Stephen? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I clicked on the Main Page link in your message rather than singer link, and saw Angel Aquino. My mistake, reading my talk page too quickly. Netherzone (talk) 17:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
relief ;) - Pseud 14 is much more prolific than I am when it comes to TFAs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... and today a woman and her views --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So great to know about her work, Gerda, I'm always happy to learn about women artists I was previously unfamiliar with. Nice article! Netherzone (talk) 22:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tell Charles01 who wrote it, - I just fixed things for the Main page. Did you click on "look"? A few images telling more than thousand words. The few new pics are of the most stunning coastline of La Palma, only I had some camera setting wrong, - I borrowed them from a friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and Vami_IV, a friend here. Listen to music by Tchaikovsky (an article where one of the four is pictured), sung by today's subject (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was sad to hear about @Vami IV. I did not know them well, but remember them from Women in Red, and seeing them around in general. We both worked on Saline Valley salt tram which was one of @Possibly's short articles that was later featured on the main page. Vami IV did a lot of good work for the encyclopedia, and will be missed by many in the community. I'm sorry for your loss, Gerda. Netherzone (talk) 16:52, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your part of the memory! Perhaps better place it on his talk, for his sister and others to see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:04, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that! - Listen to music from Ukraine if you like, - I heard it in 2022, and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I sang in yesterday's. - Rinaldo (opera) premiered OTD, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today's story celebrates a woman's birthday. She sat right in front of me when I took the picture at a lovely concert, celebrating her son's 60th. I thought she was 90 today, - no, 91 already. You can listen, starting at the piece he dedicated to her, Op. 1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
more music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:32, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

englisch version of ROLF LAVEN[edit]

Good day!

I want to ask which improvements the rejected English draft ROLF LAVEN require to get published? His German-wikipedia is confirmed: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolf_Laven

An English-wikipedia is urgent, since Rolf Laven was nominated for an international prize in the USA.

Thank you in advance! Abendtau (talk) 08:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thank you for you for reaching out. I'm sorry to have to tell you that it is not acceptable at this time, and I don't think it would survive deletion, but here's some thoughts on improvements. I noticed the German language version was already deleted once, but then recreated and heavily edited by the artist themself. The English draft relies on his education and memberships, and contains a lot of name-dropping of famous people, none of which contributes to notability. At this time, it doesn't yet meet the criteria for a notable artist nor academic WP:NPROF (no citations of his work on Google Scholar nor Scopus), and based on the sourcing does not meet the general notability guidelines as all the sources are primary (or a name-check) except one, which is more about a program for school children than about his own work. EN-WP needs independent sources (not connected to the person) that provide in-depth significant coverage, published in reliable sources. Also if his work is held in the permanent collections of notable museums or national galleries, that would help.
Please know that there is no need for "urgency" - at all. It's better to wait until there are enough good sources available than a "race to the finish line" to get an article published. The draft won't expire for six months, (which can be extended). See if there are other sources available that others have written about him, or wait until those become available in reliable sources before resubmitting. Sorry if this is disappointing news, but hope it has been helpful. Netherzone (talk) 16:19, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted[edit]

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

For posting two separate unsigned comments in a single AfD I had to clean up after. Left guide (talk) 01:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! and thanks, I've always wanted one of those. I fluctuate between using reply-link and direct editing on AfD's and forget that I still need to sign if I'm not using reply-link. Thanx for the reminder. Netherzone (talk) 02:00, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]