User talk:Noegenesis

Edit to Frechet derivative

This edit summary was incorrect. You can check the formula that was in the article by a direct calculation:

$\lim _{t\to 0}{\frac {1}{t}}\left({\frac {t^{3}a^{2}b}{t^{4}a^{4}+t^{2}b^{2}}}\right)={\frac {a^{2}}{b}}$

for $b\not =0$. Moreover, in the example that you replaced this with, the Gateaux derivative at (0,0) fails to exist in any direction (except where ab=0), which is not what you wrote, nor is it relevant to the point being made in the text. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 20:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I was idiotic enough to forget the ${\frac {1}{t}}$ factor in the limit, which is what led me to these incorrect conclusions. Thanks for correcting my mistake! Noegenesis (talk) 12:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Smartbond article, needs sourcing for some of the material you added

Hello, I'm N2e. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Smartbond, but you didn't provide a reliable source. I've tagged it as needing a citation; so if you can, please cite it! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. The "Smartbond monetary system" info is interesting, but about half of what you added is totally unsourced. And the sources you do have are primary sources, which are not as good as secondary sources for Wikipedia. So I can't really tell is the monetary system use of the term "smartbond" should be in the same article as the more general use for a bond in finance that is now a smartbond. Help would be appreciated. N2e (talk) 03:38, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

@N2e: Hi N2e. Thanks for contributing to the Smartbond article. To give you a bit of context in relation to your question, the term Smartbond refers to a specific digital currency operating on top of a blockchain platform (of the same name). This is neither a bond in the financial sense, nor a generic economic term referring to a currency following the monetary rules which Smartbond does. The term "smart bond" (or "smart-bond") on the other hand seems to have originated in an experimental project by UBS. It referred to a financial bond which was settled through code running on a blockchain, so effectively a smart contract. As such, apart from being in overlapping subject areas (finance & blockchain), there is no particular connection between these two topics.

All the information I can find about smart bonds relate to the experimental UBS project. Do you know of any other examples, particularly "in the code of a DAO" as you mention in the article ? In any event, I believe these kinds of initiatives would fit well on the smart contract page (probably too early to put them on the Bond (finance) page). I've already copied over one point you added into the smart contract page.

I'll let you migrate the remaining content over as you see fit. For now I've just removed the second line of the introduction in the Smartbond article as this is not factually accurate. Fiat monetary systems have a central bank (generally with independence from the government) managing a currency, while government bonds are issued by the treasury department of a government, denominated in this currency - the issuance of a different kind of bonds would not create a new monetary system. Moreover, the idea of a government issuing bonds on blockchain is also quite hypothetical at this stage.

I've also added secondary source citations in the places you suggested (primary sources are kept as the most up to date factual information on this topic). Noegenesis (talk) 15:20, 27 May 2016 (UTC)