User talk:Onthemap

Hi.

Hello. I have read your note "If my user page, or a page I have created, is up for deletion, it is surely courtesy to inform me on my talk page?" on your user page. You are perfectly right. I will drop a note on this to the editor who tagged the page for deletion. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou. (Although, sadly, the page has been deleted now).--Onthemap (talk) 11:31, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your claim that new sources had been added to Jason Steed (Book Series), I did not see any. Instead, I saw the same sources present during the AfD. Also, in the course of verifying the references, some didn't mention the subject at all. Accordingly, it was clear to me that the article had not been improved since the last AfD. Rather than make me dig through the entire reference list, if you could just list the new references separately, I can evaluate them. —C.Fred (talk) 12:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would absolutely love to C.Fred but, of course, you have deleted the page. So that makes it rather hard, or rather well nigh impossible, doesn't it???!--Onthemap (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have the notes you were working from when you created the article? Your offline draft? The text was close enough to the old article that I was pretty sure you had access to it. —C.Fred (talk) 12:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nope,but I just realised I have an old version on my user page, so will study that. Back in a few minutes.--Onthemap (talk) 14:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Right: This one [1] is a newspaper article which gives most of the details. This [2] gives details of the publishing deal and how the book is an "internet hit", this [3] lists the book as a finalist in the Indie Book Awards and this [4] is an official interview with the writer from TeensReadToo.com. is this enough to be getting on with?--Onthemap (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the Zitwer Agency one is disqualified out of the gate as not independent—neither the author's website nor his agent's, publishing house's, etc. can be used to establish notability. The TeensReadToo.com interview isn't at their site–it's on somebody's Blogspot, and blogs aren't generally reliable. That leaves the Bradenton Times story, which is coverage of the author, Mark Cooper, and only secondarily of the book (although it does establish that Fledgling was picked up and published by Sourcebooks). All in all, those three links do not demonstrate significant coverage of the subject in independent, reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 15:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]