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Letter from Wikimedia User Group Hong Kong[edit]

Dear Oshawott 12,

Sorry for being too late (due to much undue tasks), but still thanks for your interest in our user group. We would like to invite you to an IRC channel (#wikimedia-hk connect) or its Telegram counterpart (contact me or 1233 for access) for discussions on community matters, as you wish.

Yours sincerely,

--Spring Roll Conan ( Talk · Contributions ) 14:49, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Buserite moved to draftspace[edit]

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Ballet[edit]

Hello, regarding the discussion at Ballet, isn't the wording "For teenage girls, intensive training in ballet results in lower bone mineral density in the arms." too strong to reflect the findings of one study? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karkanxholl (talk • contribs) 02:45, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for replying. You could say instead, 'it has been noted' or 'some researchers has said that' instead of deleting the phrase and not using edit summaries. Thanks! Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 02:50, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I will use edit summaries. I think we can add more also. I have not read the study, but I think it would be because of diet and not the training itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karkanxholl (talk • contribs) 02:54, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – February 2019[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2019[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).

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Rousey[edit]

My edit was hardly vandalism as Stephanie gave Ronda the belt back.. --Evil Yugi (talk) 04:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but we do need sources to prove that, or we'll just think that it's vandalism. Do you have any? Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 04:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's likely on WWE.com as we speak. Look there. --Evil Yugi (talk) 04:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a very useable source. Could you use an independent news outlet? Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 04:32, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Such as? I'm not sure what you count as credible. --Evil Yugi (talk) 04:35, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:SECONDARY. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 04:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

for draft making[edit]

Why do not you consider any reason why you are not considering my page draft:sanjay chhimpa? All reasonable facts have been explained in detail, there is also a proper link, you have also blocked from the Wikipedia Helpline — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgnr01549 (talk • contribs) 11:04, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sgnr01549, I was working on other things. I can't help every single one of you, and I couldn't 'consider' not helping you with the page. I was reading your page, and made an edit when someone asked me to review another page. His page had more information than yours, too, so I helped him first. By the way, who said I was 'blocked' from the IRC 'helpline' channel? Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 13:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Anyways, your wording was super unclear, so I tried to make the best out of what I could understand. Thanks....? Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 13:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your request for pending changes reviewer[edit]

Hi Oshawott 12. I reviewed your request for the pending changes reviewer permissions, and after taking some time to weigh some thoughts, your trustworthiness, and experience vs some concerns that I found regarding a few things, I went ahead and approved your request and granted you access to the pending changes reviewer tools. I have some concerns which I will detail below and conclude with recommendations; please read them carefully and take them to heart, understand that I approved your request for the tools despite these concerns, that I'll probably get questioned and receive some grief from other admins due to approving your request, and follow my expectations outlined below.... and please, PLEASE don't make me regret my decision to grant you these user rights despite the number of red flags that I ran into... lol ;-)

I noticed that you applied for this user right back in January 2019, and it was declined by Swarm due to many legitimate concerns that he listed in his response here. Assuming that Swarm is correct with his count in his response to your previous request for these permissions, this last request you made here that I approved makes this your sixth attempt to apply for and be granted the user rights. You were also told by some reviewing administrators (including Swarm in his response to your last request in January 2019) that you lack the relevant experience as well as the patience to fully follow through with what you've been told to improve on before applying for the user rights again. As also said by Swarm, applying for user rights frequently and repeatedly and well before you've shown improvement in the relevant areas first makes a very bad impression on your image, your intentions, and your level of trust. That behavior is indicative of users who want to be granted the tools in order to just "have them" (for one reason or another), and not because you'll actually use the tools (or use them well or correctly) and that you intend to use them to help improve the project.

As with anybody else on Wikipedia with access to this user right, you're expected to actually use the pending changes reviewer permissions and review articles with pending changes that are currently awaiting approval, and use them properly, appropriately, and follow all of the relevant policies and procedures involved. I'm sure that I don't need to say this, but given the concerns above, I am going to do so and just this once to formalize it and make it clear: If you're found to be repeatedly misusing the tool or making wrong decisions or judgment calls involving the tool and due to the lack of overall editing experience or the failure to review and understand the appropriate policies, process, or guidelines, or if you stop using the tool or don't use the tool at all - any administrator is welcome to revoke your access to this user right and do so without my prior approval, input, or notification beforehand.

Given my concerns listed above, as well as the expectations I've set... I'm going to proceed with the usual message that other editors receive when approved for the user rights. Please review it. :-) ....

Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also:

Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:34, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 00:35, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2019[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).

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  • Two more administrator accounts were compromised. Evidence has shown that these attacks, like previous incidents, were due to reusing a password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. All admins are strongly encouraged to enable two-factor authentication, please consider doing so. Please always practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
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Request for input[edit]

Hello Oshawott 12. A thread in which you are mentioned has been opened here Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Review of protection at Mistake. You are free to add your input. Please understand I don't think you (or Samsara) did anything wrong. Editors are just trying to understand what went on. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 23:37, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of tea for you![edit]

Thank you kindly for alerting me to my oversight of the ongoing RfC. Mootros (talk) 10:43, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting AfD discussions[edit]

Hi - regarding this AfD discussion, I'm sorry to stick my nose in, but I'm not sure your relisting was appropriate. I must stress that I have not exhaustively read through the instructions for AfD clerks, so I may be speaking out of turn here, but I have never seen someone relist a discussion that they have also voted in, and I've never seen a discussion relisted just two days after the last relist. Can I check with you whether you've read the guidelines on this? Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 15:18, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Girth Summit: Oshawott just said on Discord that it was an accidental relist, having pressed the wrong button. They said that they are not able to edit right now but would like someone else to revert the relist.--SkyGazer 512 My talk page 17:02, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks SkyGazer 512 - I've reverted the most recent relist as requested. I'm still a bit confused about Oshawott's first relist - it was only 5 days after the RandyKitty's relisting, and again I've never seen a user relist a discussion that they've participated in. I'm not looking to make any kind of fuss about this, just wanted to make sure that Oshwott had read up on the process and was confident they were doing it right. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 17:20, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure that relisting a discussion one has participated in is either not allowed or strongly discouraged, but don't take my word for that. Regardless, I'm probably going to stay out of this for now, as I have no particular interest in this AfD; I just wanted to point out what Oshawott said on Discord.--SkyGazer 512 My talk page 17:31, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sarcasm[edit]

Hi there, re: this comment, I wasn't being sarcastic in my apology to that user. I realised that I was not behaving per our civility policy by being condescending and ridiculing them. It's not how I like to operate even if I thought they were deliberately being hard-headed and might have been trolling me. Thus, I apologised and disengaged. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:30, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, all right. I normally can’t tell if people are being sarcastic or not. Thanks for clarifying though! Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 23:57, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – May 2019[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2019).

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Technical news

  • XTools Admin Stats, a tool to list admins by administrative actions, has been revamped to support more types of log entries such as AbuseFilter changes. Two additional tools have been integrated into it as well: Steward Stats and Patroller Stats.

Arbitration

  • In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases, the committee will review all available information to determine whether the administrator followed "appropriate personal security practices" before restoring permissions; administrators found failing to have adequately done so will not be resysopped automatically. All current administrators have been notified of this change.
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Argov[edit]

Oshawott, the edits you've made to page for author Argov are verifiable online. The author was born abroad but she is an American.

Yes, but we need sources for that. Please do include the sources in the page if they are verifiable. All sources must follow WP:SECONDARY. Thanks! Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 05:21, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my bad there. The page said she was French in the revisions that I started editing it, but the Wikidata item says she is American. I have now corrected it to say 'French-born American'. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 05:24, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oshawott - Your changes are perfect. I changed only "was" to "is" (present tense) to denote that the author is still living.

Thanks! Speaking of which, would you like to join us by being an editor? You can sign up now, and you could help out and learn how to edit at your own pace. Also, remember to add ‘~~~~‘ after your message to add your signature. It really helps us identify easier who typed the message. Thanks! Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 08:09, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed Safe Space Policy for the Hong Kong User Group[edit]

To ensure a safe, friendly, inclusive and harassment-free environment for all future events, it is proposed that a Safe Space Policy shall be established by the User Group.

The full proposed policy is posted at meta:Wikimedia Community User Group Hong Kong/Safe Space Policy.

A consultation on the proposed policy is currently conducted. During the consultation period, please voice your opinion on the discussion thread in Meta. The proposed policy would come in effect on 22 May 2019 if no objections are raised by the user group members.

Regards, --無聊龍 (talk) 05:34, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

3RR on La Croix Sparkling Water[edit]

Hi Oshawott 12. I just wanted to give you a heads-up that the three reverts you've made on La Croix Sparkling Water ([1][2][3]) are getting close to violating the three-revert rule, which is something that often results in a block. Please be more careful in the future – oftentimes my advice is to stop reverting after being reverted just once, unless it's obvious vandalism. Please also avoid using IRC to canvass for reverts, especially if it could be seen as trying to circumvent the three-revert rule. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 04:52, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Nasdack and Mz7: Thanks for the reminder, Mz7. I had a small mix-up with vandals, and I just saw Nasdack as a new user with a big edit, so I reverted and forgot to see the summary. Sorry for that. I was really confused and just restored the undisputed version, and messed up. I’ll try to be more careful and double-check after my edits. About the IRC part, it was basically me thinking they were vandals. Sorry for the mix-up and for the bad revert. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 12:27, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging, failed ping: Nasdack Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 12:30, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging Oshawott 12, thank you for the notification. I apologize for any misunderstandings. Have a pleasant weekend. 5:35, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you[edit]

The Reviewer's Barnstar
This is for your valuable efforts for reviewing articles under pending changes protection. Thank you PATH SLOPU 02:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 31 May 2019[edit]

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User talk:ColourTheoryRGB[edit]

I am not sure what you think you are doing there, but please stop doing it. Your very first edit was already against our guidelines. Drmies (talk) 01:27, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my bad. I was about to revert the talk page comments back when he moved the page. I tried to move it back, and got very confused. Again, thanks for the reminder. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 02:52, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2019[edit]

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Why am I being deleted?[edit]

Hello, Why have I got a message saying my account has been requested to be deleted immediately. BitcoinReporter (talk) 09:59, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That was your userpage. Your userpage was promoting your own company, and we don’t allow that on Wikipedia. It was speedily deleted. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 22:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A question[edit]

Hey, Oshawott 12. I saw you talking to Jimmy Wales on his talk page earlier and immediately noticed your custom signature, I want to know how to do the same but not sure. Maybe you could help me? AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 11:25, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing_your_signature. You can see how other's signatures are coded in the source editor of pages where it is used. — Lauritz Thomsen (talk) 09:17, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PVH (company)[edit]

This is a forked discussion. There is another discussion going on at User talk: Oshwah#PVH (company). Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:41, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! just want to let you know I don't agree with you on your deletions of sections in the PVH article's ~ I left you a summary here Mitchellhobbs (talk) 12:50, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • If you come across an article that has stale {cn}'s as an editor it would be more proper to try and find sources to those {cn}'s ~ the only reason that I found sources for your 'edits' was because I watch that page for vandalism ~ I don't really start editing the pages I watch unless I get a break from my teachings ~ then I go to the ref's and start cleaning them up and if I really am interested in an article I will do a major edit in my sand box ~ as you can see here and here the latter being a merge of three pages ~ so when a new editor such as you start deleting sections it leaves editors like me out on a limb when I start to work on a page ~ @Oshwah: Mitchellhobbs (talk) 13:43, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    The {cn} tags are over 10 years old. As I said, I’m not required to read through your userpage and stuff. I really don’t agree with the ‘new editor’ part, since I started earlier than you and have more edits, but fine...? Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 13:59, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
you sound like a real () It's up to you what you put in the part that was deleted ~ just to let you know ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 14:02, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
once again you misread information according to your contributions page you started editing in 2017 ~ if you subtract 5 from 19 it comes up to 2014 ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 14:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what you’re talking about now. Also, was that a personal attack I see? As another editor says, have it your way. I give up. And please, stop pinging me. Thanks. ;) Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:13, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Reading back, I see you might’ve meant your registration date. I skipped through and saw your userpage creation date. I typically see that as when someone started to actually be active, so sorry about that. Anyways, have it your way and have fun WP:OWNing articles, as you seem to have been doing. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:16, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
looks like we crossed editing time Mitchellhobbs (talk) 14:18, 23 June 2019 (UTC) this is what I wrote ~ :it was not a personal attack ~ in the blank is ~ a very young editor ~ was this not your first edit here in the article German Swiss International School ? Mitchellhobbs (talk) 14:18, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What is the point you are trying to make? Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
BTW also all those have it you way and have fun linking wiki's is a personal attavk on another editor ~ be safe and try to give newbies a better look on their edits ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 14:20, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Your replies confuse me. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
just a hint not complaining ~ but if you use another editors work ~ like you have been doing from my talk page to yours ~ it would be customary to give that editor who wrote those words proper credit in your summary ~ ~ mitch ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 14:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
At this point, I am just plain confused. I have never seen anyone give credit when linking to others’ talk pages. This is just hypocrisy, calling people a new editor while looking like one yourself. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 14:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An anti-trout for you![edit]

The Anti-Trout Award
For correctly identifying the reason behind my rename had to do with masking my gender (then thinking you deserved a trout over it). –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 16:30, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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