User talk:Ouroborosian

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Your use of multiple Wikipedia accounts

Hi. An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/And we drown, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.

FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 21:55, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

1.) Yes, I am the same person as And we drown.

2.) I honestly wasn't aware you couldn't change accounts, and I thought sockpuppetry only meant using multiple accounts for malicious behavior.

3.) There is, and was, no way for me to possibly get back into my original account because I made it so I would not know my password and e-mail by placing gibberish into the spaces for password and e-mail, because I wanted to effectively delete my original account, and also because my hard drive recently crashed and so even if I hadn't done that my cookies would've been gone anyway, effectively putting me in the same position because I wouldn't have remembered my e-mail and password well enough to know them from scratch even if I hadn't done.

4.) I didn't think I was going to want to come back ever as an editor, but I couldn't stay away. In spite of some bad experiences with a select number of users, I liked things about it here too much, and I thought it would be fine to edit again as my IP and a then as a new account.

5.) I was not aware until today when I read about sockpuppetry that one has to let others know their accounts are linked, or that it's apparently not ok to sometimes edit without logging in (seems like it would be a privacy violation to me to demand that from a user, at least on any other website, but whatever).

6.) I know you'll probably permablock me now or something just because I had a disagreement with someone over one edit (which I was right about, btw, and yet for some reason this whole investigation was started by the person who disagreed with me, and I think they're friends with the two users who had a personal vendetta against me on my previous account, not very impartial of him or her, but anyway. . .), but that's fine, do what you will. I just want everyone to know I honestly didn't know I was doing anything "wrong" given my aforementioned circumstances (inability to log into my other account for two good reasons, etc.), and it's sad how no one takes into account ever the positive contributions people make and only hold them accountable for unintentional "wrongs".

7.) You'd probably be doing me a favor by permablocking me anyway, because I spend way too much time on here as it is.

8.) Sincerely, Ryan

Ouroborosian (talk) 14:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)