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Happy editing! Mojo Hand (talk) 16:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Storelocal Cooperative (April 7)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Numberguy6 was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Numberguy6 (talk) 16:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thank you for reviewing my submission. I don't understand what reads like an advertisement? It is simply stating facts. The sources are external third-party (Inside Self-Storage is an industry publication, the California Business Journal, and so on). I think the company is notable as it is the only cooperative in the world in the self storage industry. Can you please offer any guidance. ParisBlue (talk) 17:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, ParisBlue! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Numberguy6 (talk) 16:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Storelocal Cooperative has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Storelocal Cooperative. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 17:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Storelocal Cooperative (July 2)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Sources are standard notices so considered trivial coverage. Also, trade publications are generally considered weak sources because often they exist to promote an industry and have a limited audience.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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S0091 (talk) 16:49, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and thank you for your response. I do work for an ad agency that represents Storelocal and added this to my user profile. However I am also a friend of the CEO and am the one who actually brought them onboard. My writing of this was for him, not for a "client" (no payment is being provided for this particular effort). That said, I believe I kept the info neutral, not promotional, with citations. I also feel it's a good addition to Wikipedia as cooperatives are becoming more common in all industries due to giants putting the independents out of business, and this is especially true in self storage. Thank you for considering. ParisBlue (talk) 17:14, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 2022[edit]

Hello ParisBlue. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:ParisBlue. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=ParisBlue|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 15:33, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and thank you for your response. I do work for an ad agency that represents Storelocal and added this to my user profile. However I am also a friend of the CEO and am the one who actually brought them onboard. My writing this was done for him as a friend, not as a client (no payment is being provided for this effort). That said, I believe I kept the info neutral, not promotional, with citations. I also think it's a good addition to Wikipedia as cooperatives are becoming more common in all industries due to giants putting the independents out of business, and this is especially true in self storage. Thank you for considering. ParisBlue (talk) 17:24, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was clearly written like an advertisement, but that's not surprising if you work for an ad agency - it will probably take you some time to adapt to an encyclopedia's writing style. Writing in a promotional style is not going to fly here at all. While you're working on that, I suggest you work on topics that are not related to your professional associations or your friends, per WP:COI such edits are strongly discouraged. MrOllie (talk) 17:42, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited ~15 or so entries and will brush up with some more. I used to write educational materials for universities so I don't know why I'm struggling with this. After I better familiarize myself with Wiki entries and rework this can I try again? ParisBlue (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Just use the request edit system when you have a conflict of interest. See Wikipedia:Edit requests for details on how that works. MrOllie (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you MrOllie, appreciate your guidance. ParisBlue (talk) 18:26, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. MrOllie (talk) 18:01, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please tell me how any of this is promotional. It's all facts. The organization. What it does. When it was founded. Who the CEO is. The number of members. I have spend a lot of time perusing other entries and this reads like dozens of them (and others are much more promotional, in fact). ParisBlue (talk) 18:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1) Mentioning this organization at all is promotion - and you are still emphasizing details in a promotional way. and 2) As an editor with a conflict of interest you must stop adding these mentions to Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 18:47, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioning an organization is promotion? You have thousands of pages dedicated to highlighting organizations and companies. How are they different? Shouldn't they all be taken down then? You even have a page for a "list of cooperatives," but this cooperative can't be included? ParisBlue (talk) 18:54, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a COI editor you must stop using Wikipedia to advertise. You should worry less about what else is on Wikipedia and more about your own efforts to use this common space for promotional purposes. Feel free to ask for additional input at WP:COIN. MrOllie (talk) 19:17, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see you added it again while we were talking here - you really must stop. I think it is very likely you will be banned as a promotional editor if you do not. MrOllie (talk) 19:19, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you get off on being controlling and pedantic in your capacity as a Wikipedia gatekeeper. Wow what an accomplishment. Ban me, I'm over it. ParisBlue (talk) 19:33, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Storelocal Cooperative[edit]

Hello, ParisBlue. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Storelocal Cooperative, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Storelocal Cooperative[edit]

Hello, ParisBlue. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Storelocal Cooperative".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:06, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]