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boxer merge (animal farm) and benjamin.[edit]

same was happening with benjamin. I can rv as well as you can, but might be better if you do rather than have too many fingers in the pie. SimonTrew (talk) 17:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

forgive me, you already have! SimonTrew (talk) 17:33, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redirecting[edit]

First thing, Don't template the regulars. It is rude and very easily replaced by a simple message. Next, dead articles will not receive discussion, so it is impossible to do anything unless I put every one of them up for deletion. I really don't want to do that, so I'm following WP:BRD. The two Animal Farm articles would have been brought back by that other user, so I will AfD them. The other articles would probably never have been challenged, so there would be no problem, and thus, no reason for discussion. Forcing discussion where discussion is unlikely to actually occur is just plain annoying. And please do respond here. I really hate when people don't follow my message. TTN (talk) 18:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And how exactly are you a judge of consensus in an area you don't seem to be familiar with? Two responses after about two weeks is the most that really is going to achieve, and the new user with one edit and the anon are likely the same person, so they can be ignored. TTN (talk) 18:06, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Pat, an article I recently created, Princess Maria Adelgunde of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, has been nominated for deletion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Maria Adelgunde of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen. Given your attention to other Hohenzollern-related articles, please take the time to weigh in and stop its deletion. Thanks again for all your wonderful contributions to Wikipedia! --Caponer (talk) 13:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Proposed deletion of Shahla Atta[edit]

The article Shahla Atta has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

fails WP:POLITICIAN

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I have nominated Frozan Fana, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frozan Fana. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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I have nominated Kartika San Dewi Shukarno, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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AfD nomination of Kajang (disambiguation)[edit]

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Gail Sheridan disambiguation page[edit]

Sorry about the piping on the Gail Sheridan disamb. page. I didn't know it was a no-no. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 01:14, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can't just copy text that someone else has written without citing it.Prezbo (talk) 08:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated May Wynn, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/May Wynn. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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Your edits to Walter Breuning article[edit]

Since when does someone go from 14th-oldest to first place with just one death?

19:51, 11 September 2009 PatGallacher (talk | contribs) (5,822 bytes) (now oldest person in the world) (undo)

Your edit was very incorrect, Mr Breuning is still not even in the top 10 yet.Ryoung122 19:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my mistake. PatGallacher (talk) 15:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kotovsky[edit]

I can do it right away, if you wish; it's not a problem. All in all, however, there are many more pages like this one, and the backlinks the entries on these pages generate are invaluable to organizing the workflow effectively. The pages get taken care of over time, by the way, so it's not like there is an intent to keep them that way forever :) Problem is, while it is possible to improve any given page upon request, they cannot all be improved during a short period of time, so inevitably situations like the one with Kotovsky dab pop up every now and then. Hope you understand. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:35, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I have taken care of the Kotovskoye link, which did not meet WP:DABRL. The other red link is OK per that same guideline. Hopefully this resolution is to your satisfaction. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:45, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from Kotovsky (disambiguation)[edit]

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DEFAULTSORT[edit]

I don't agree that it's pointless. First, a correct DEFAULTSORT removes the need for a comment. This is a simple and general way to handle it. Second, technically a sort on "Hou Yifan" and "Hou, Yifan" are not the same. To fit the normal "last, first" pattern, the second is more correct. If we had a Hou A and and Hou Z sorted "Hou, A" and "Hou, Z", this makes a difference and your comment would not make the page sort correctly. Probably unlikely in this case, but it is correct. Quale (talk) 22:34, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tom McEllistrim[edit]

Hi, I've just seen your query on Tom McEllistrim talk. Yes, same guy. I'm in the middle of expanding it right now.Jdorney (talk) 17:35, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St. Peter[edit]

How EXACTLY is changing the word "apologist" "unconstructive"? Do explain? How is that NEUTRAL? Do explain...Curious..--24.16.211.213 (talk) 13:23, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See my reply on the user's talk page. PatGallacher (talk) 15:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Grahame Smith. Our verifiability policy requires that all content be cited to a reliable source. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

September 2009[edit]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Roman Polanski. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.

As a longterm editor you should know better.--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 20:06, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If Polanski wants to sue me I'll see him in court. PatGallacher (talk) 20:09, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You know (or should know) that your personal opinions/feelings don't belong in any article, including Polanski's. Have a nice day, --The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 20:17, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Juan Carlos 1[edit]

Hi. Yes I am aware what the article says, which is my point. He does NOT use the title "King of Gibraltar". It is an urban myth. Some insist that the title is in use, but the simple fact is it is NOT. You can search the spanish royal family's ownebsite. The info is simply not true, but some for unknown reasons insist on adding it. WP should reflect reality.

Pat, you should be aware that the above message was posted by a long-term banned user, sockpuppeteer and persistent vandal, User:Gibraltarian. He is not allowed to contribute; please do not bother replying to him. -- ChrisO (talk) 07:55, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For heaven's sake, Pat, please check what people are doing to your talk page before reverting. If you "want to see what people are writing to me" why did you revert the banned vandal Gibraltarian's deletions of my comments above? He didn't write anything to you; he deleted what I was writing to you. He has done literally nothing on Wikipedia other than vandalism and posting rants for the last four years. -- ChrisO (talk) 18:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the above comments are very telling. The only one ranting here is ChrisO. I have vandalised nothing. Merely disagreeing with ChrisO cannot be classed as vandalism. The info ChrisO insists on adding to the JC pase is untrue and supported by no official sources. Therefore it does NOT meet the criteria for inclusion on WP. As for ChrisO there are numerous instances of him directing abuse and insults at me. Perhaps he should ban himself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.120.243.128 (talk) 12:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AIV report[edit]

Hi there! The IP you mentioned in this report does not exist. Mind pointing me to the right one? Cheers, Master of Puppets - Call me MoP! :D 16:10, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for helping out with the AIV report. I'm afraid it's quite difficult to block Gibraltarian - he moves around from IP to IP, but can always be distinguished by his use of a 212.*.*.* IP address. I'd suggest just reverting him on sight until he gives up for the day. -- ChrisO (talk) 19:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kings of Imereti stubs[edit]

Hi PatGallacher, whilst doing my rounds stub sorting, I've noticed that you created quite a few stubs on historical rulers of Imereti, such as George I of Imereti and Demetre of Guria. If you have any more of these up your sleeve, can I recommend that rather than tagging with the generic {{bio-stub}}, you use the more specific {{euro-royal-stub}}? Thanks, and kind regards, DoktorMandrake 00:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kartika case (Caning in Malaysia)[edit]

I understand about giving preference to the Malaysian media references, but the problem is in my experience the KL Star, New Straits Times, etc. don't leave stuff up long, whereas the New York Times and the London D. Telegraph are currently maintaining their archives permanently. So the refs you've left in the article might disappear soon. It might be better to put the Western refs. back (but maybe comment them out) so they can easily be reinstated. -- Alarics (talk) 18:27, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

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Darius I of Persia‎[edit]

Could you, please, add you reference to Stephen Bourke to my edits of Darius I of Persia‎? Xashaiar went into edit-warring there and accepts no other version but adding the word hypothetical in the references! StJohnTheBaptist (talk) 07:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why?[edit]

There was still discussion on the move, why did just go ahead and move it yourself? warrior4321 02:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry & Thanks[edit]

Just apologising for editing the spelling on the Lord of the Rings article without doing my research first... sorry : ). Thanks for taking the time to message on my userpage too, I think I understand and respect the spelling varieties a little more now. As I said on the LOTR discussion page, next time I'll run my thoughts by the people on the talkpage before I get too edit-happy. Thanks again, Gilly of III (talk) 03:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sub-section in Wind that shakes the barley[edit]

Unless you intend adding to this section to reflect the assertion of 'historical inaccuracy', I don't understand your revert. RashersTierney (talk) 14:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The lost sockpuppet report[edit]

Hello PatGallacher! Back in August you filed a sock pupped report, but somehow it wound up in the article space redirect Bonaparte. I've reverted that edit and just wanted to drop you a courtesy note in case you wanted to refile it. -- ToET 03:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr. Gallacher! I noticed that you reverted an edit today at William III of England. Subsequently, you notifed the miscreant anonymous editor of his wrongdoing. In that warning you chose to use {{Uw-defamatory1}} which highlights possible libel issues. However, my understanding is that {{Uw-defamatory1}} is more appropriately used when there are possible biography of living persons issues. Since William III has been dead for over 300 hundred years, and libel could therefore not accrue to the statement made by the little vandal, I would have thought that a {{Uw-vandalism1}} warning would have been more appropriate. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 23:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

October 2009[edit]

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Darius I of Persia: You may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. warrior4321 01:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

William Gladstone[edit]

Hiya, I'm a bit puzzled by your comment on my William Gladstone edit. (Firstly, apologies, I forgot to sign in, so it was done on a work computer with a communal IP address rather than using my own account!) You pasted a standard wikipedia form of words querying whether my post was neutral. Just to reassure you, I made three changes - two of them related to adding the subtitle of two of Richard Shannon's Gladstone biographies in the further reading section - these books are actually better-known by their subtitles than as Volume I and Volume II. I also added Eugenio Biagini's biography, because although short, it's a well-known introductory biography by a well-respected Cambridge and Yale based Gladstone scholar. I'm not quite sure how that constitutes non-NPOV! Best wishes, Debonairchap (talk) 15:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Cydney Bernard[edit]

An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Cydney Bernard. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").

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Edit summary?[edit]

Excuse me, what edit summary? I never edited Talk:James I of Scotland. Surtsicna (talk) 22:20, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I have read everything you wrote, I am even more confused. I have never used the word "bitch" here; the anonymous IP who started the discussion used that word. I haven't used edit summary either, so it can't be inappropriate. Perhaps you confused me with someone else? Surtsicna (talk) 19:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Biggles[edit]

This is of course NOT the most important article either of us have on our lists (!) - none the less I do appreciate your help in editing it! It is good to have another slant on some of my wilder edits. Nice to work with you, anyway. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 09:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He was KING OF ALL BITCHES Scotland and England not just England[edit]

Quite right! If you hadn't done, I would have. It's been annoying me whenever I looked at my watchlist. Brendandh (talk) 18:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick of the Palatinate[edit]

Hi! A year ago, you proposed Frederick of the Palatinate for deletion, but it wasn't deleted. I started a deletion discussion right now. Geschichte (talk) 09:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did not do this[edit]

You said: " Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to User talk:168.9.36.2, you will be blocked from editing. PatGallacher (talk) 19:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)"

I have never edited "User talk:168.9.36.2" in any way, see the edit history for that page. 213.162.113.89 (talk) 19:16, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I acted precipitously. It was not my intention. I did look for guidance on this action, and could only find information effectively saying "just do it". I did give what I believe is a reasonable explanation for my action - that the monarch had more than one title, and that a search for James VI of Scotland should not really return James I of England, even if they are one and the same person. It would be more delicate to respect the fact that he was the monarch of two separate kingdoms with two separate titles, and for the article title to reflect that fact. Please note that I made no other change than to the title, and that searches for James I of England or for James VI of Scotland would both return James VI and I, which was his actual title. Anyway, sorry again for not having played by the rules, but I maintain serious consideration should be given the change I proposed, since it is not introducing any error, is more culturally sensitive and actually conforms to the spirit of the law as decided in the case of MacCormick v Lord Advocate 1953. Lusobrandane (talk) 11:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Users can remove most messages (including warnings) from their own talk pages, according to the user page guidelines. snigbrook (talk) 20:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article Narreeman has been proposed for deletion. The proposed-deletion notice added to the article should explain why.

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Hi, I see that you have removed the proposed deletion template stating that this is a "significant fictional character". Please can you explain on the article's talk page why you think this is, and then add real world (i.e. not from the Flashman books) sources to the article that corroborate this opinion. If not, then I will take this to WP:Afd. You have been contributing to Wikipedia for a long time, so I am sure you know why it is necessary to back claims to notability up with sources if an article is to exist. Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 07:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I've expanded the article you started on Mary Marquis, if you would like to take a look. It could probably use some copyediting, and of course any further material. Jheald (talk) 10:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article Chris New has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Message[edit]

How was it against naming conventions? And as far as I can tell, there is no consensus, and we speak English not Japanese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinnyfm (talkcontribs) 01:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have never heard it used and I have been speaking English for all my life. On the discussion page for the article there are at least two topics calling it into question, hardly a consensus-Dinnyfm (talk] • contribs) 01:28, 9 December 2009

Darius I of Persia[edit]

What is the neutral point of view dispute? How is it biased? You should have provided/started a discussion section on the talk page, so others can understand what the problem is. warrior4321 23:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

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re: Bruce Lee[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. You have mischaracterized my edit by apparently not taking the time to examine the diff [1] in which I fixed a bad reference tag delimiter. If you wish to apologize, you may do so on my talk page. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. — Myasuda (talk) 02:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am still waiting for you to either revert your reckless and mistaken addition to my talk page, or for you to extend an apology for your careless error. — Myasuda (talk) 13:50, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kind Hearts and Coronets[edit]

If the claim is sourced, you need to provide a reference. Never mind. I've done it for you. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:07, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Community restrictions[edit]

O Fenian (talk) 20:41, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On my head[edit]

Well I don't really want it on my head, but your edit is bold, lets see if it holds..It is a simple citable fact as you have added it..so lets see. Off2riorob (talk) 19:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adams[edit]

Pat, your pov template you added to the article is a bit excessive and not really helping, the whole article is not pov is it, it is just a dispute about this one situation and the situation is being discussed on the talk so it would be better to remove the template yourself imo. Off2riorob (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Darius I of Persia[edit]

You added some content to the article, could you please provide a source? warrior4321 18:47, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

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Good article review[edit]

Did you take a look at the How to review an article section at the nomination's page? You should have seen it before reviewing an article, because you have not really reviewed it. You have just given a comment. You never even gave one reference to the Good article criteria. It states :

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Just informing you about this, you do not need to revert or do anything else at the moment. I am going to ask around for help to remove your "review". warrior4321 23:16, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Kidd: Piracy on the Wikis[edit]

Hi PatGallacher. Thanks for your response to my comments on vandalism in the William Kidd article. I thought I'd put my thoughts out there, but they don't have to be right. And it's always good to know that a problem is not as bad as one thought it was. In those situations, it's a pleasure to be wrong. Wotnow (talk) 01:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC)Wotnow[reply]

Service awards proposal[edit]

Master Editor Hello, PatGallacher/Archive 2! I noticed you display a service award, and would like to invite you to join the discussion over a proposed revamping of the awards.

If you have any opinions on the proposal, please participate in the discussion. Thanks! — the Man in Question (in question) 04:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong[edit]

Do not post any more incorrect messages on my talk page, or better still do not post any messages of any description on my talk page. O Fenian (talk) 16:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? PatGallacher (talk) 16:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have no wish to engage in discussion with people who cannot or will not read. That is my final comment on the aubject, or any other subject you wish to broach. O Fenian (talk) 16:17, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Heya, popping in as an admin. I took a look at O Fenian's edits, and though it's true that he did revert twice, one of them was of an anonymous IP, and those tend not to count as far as the 1RR rule goes. If you see any other violations though, please let me or some other admin know. Thanks, --Elonka 16:43, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

Hello PatGallacher! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 11 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 936 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:

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I will once again make a friendly suggestion that you either refrain from getting involved in issues from this complex conflict, or do your research and get the knowledge needed to be involved. While I do assume good faith, your edit summary shows severe lack of understanding in this subject. "It is POV to say that Jericho, Gaza City, Hebron are not in a country" - on the contrary. The old version of the page that said "West Bank, Palestine" suggested that they are in a country so-called "Palestine". No such country (sovereign state) exists. "Palestine" was declared as a state by the Palestinian leadership; however, as the peace process has failed time and time again, at this point "Palestine" does not exist as a sovereign state that controls any land. This is not POV; it is a statement of facts on the ground. Breein1007 (talk) 18:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is a moot point whether country and sovereign state are synonymous, we have articles on Hamilton, Bermuda and San Juan, Puerto Rico. Palestine has rival de facto governments in Gaza and Ramallah both of which do control some land. It is a moot point whether a sovereign state has to be recognised as such by the international community, the USSR and People's Republic of China both existed for some time before they became widely recognised. PatGallacher (talk) 19:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, they do not control any land. Your understanding of the issue seems to be at a level not suitable for making such sweeping statements. There is huge legal background to the term "control". Similarly, there is huge legal background to the term "country" - and it is certainly not a moot point. I fail to see the parallels to Bermuda or Puerto Rico. Those articles do not suggest that they are countries. I won't keep arguing this with you. I encourage you to do a lot more research if you want to make positive contributions to this area on Wikipedia. It's very easy to make big errors when using seemingly neutral terminology in this area. Breein1007 (talk) 20:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IP User

You've got the wrong cat with regard to your accusations of page vandalism (Michigan). Looks like the IP address changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.81.5 (talk) 09:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scottish TUSC candidates[edit]

Hi PatGallacher, is there a more concrete source yet for the Scottish TUSC candidates than the flyer? Also, do you know anything more about the candidate in Carlisle and why he's endorsed but not a TUSC member? --Killing Vector (talk) 23:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jock Palfreeman article concerns[edit]

Hi PatGallacher, looking over the Jock Palfreeman article that you created, I noted several concerns:

1) The article is about an living person but that category was not added. (I fixed this article, but please use more care in the future.) 2) The article did not have the content referenced to any reliable sources. 3) The article contained material that was not found in the linked external link, not a reliable source but at least could have provided some context for the material. (I removed the material because I felt it was contentious to the point that a source was need to be included.)

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Donald Stewart[edit]

As you have disputed my bold move it is only fair that the articles are restored to their original state. I will probably start my own WP:RM in due course. Tassedethe (talk) 16:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A new WP:RM discussion has been started here. Tassedethe (talk) 16:57, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Celibate vs Chaste in Edward Heath Article[edit]

Hi. I edited Edward Heath as 94.193.241.76 while not logged in. I have reverted "celibate" to "chaste" for a couple of reasons, which I will enumerate here in the hope of avoiding any kind of edit war. The authority you cite, the Guardian style guide, itself concedes that "celibate" is not strictly correct in reference to sexual abstinence: since the unambiguous "chaste" is available, I see no reason to prefer "celibate" even if we allow that it is acceptable. Other authorities (such as my counter-citation) exist that do not consider "celibate" acceptable. I would judge the Guardian style guide to be a poor source in any case, containing, as it does, such grievous errors as recommending "Cern" for "CERN" and "Centres for Disease Control" for "Centers ..." (I wasn't even looking for howlers — these just caught my casual eye under C while I was looking up the celibacy citation. I shudder to think what horrors the rest of the alphabet has in store).

If we cannot agree on "chaste", I hope we can compromise on some wording other than "celibate". To insist on "celibate" over all alternatives seems rather like an inverted form of pedantry. Let us not mandate lexicographically contentious usage when said contention can so easily be circumvented by re-casting the sentence. The sentence is short, and would not be overburdened by a more detailed exposition such as, e.g., "Heath was a lifelong bachelor and perhaps never sexually active". GideonF (talk) 23:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Pat. I received your message about my edit to the Pirate Jenny talk page. Of course I deleted that comment on the page and it wasn't accidental. The comment I deleted was my own comment and I deleted it because I wasn't sure of the accuracy of my comment and I didn't have the time or desire to research and source it. Am I not allowed to remove my own possibly incorrect comment? Why did you restore it? Thanks. 66.234.41.17 (talk) 22:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC) Steve L.[reply]

I have nominated Adams family abuse controversy, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adams family abuse controversy. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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John Logie Baird image needed[edit]

Hiya... i felt compelled to sign in after i saw there was no image for the man who invented the television (and colour television). For one of the most important inventors in the 20th century this needs to be addressed Pat. I'm completely new to wiki and have no idea whatsoever how to upload images, also i'm using someone elses computer. I'd be grateful if you could somehow see that this great man has his image up (also noticed Alan Turing needs an image as theres only has a statue)... thanks Pat. 1990Jessica (talk) 06:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was a wreck, but I sourced it a bit. I think he passes WP:N as an activist. So I removed your prod. Bearian (talk) 21:57, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion at Talk:Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom/Article title[edit]

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This IP should be banned from anonymous contributions[edit]

This IP belongs to an entire school district and should not be allowed to make anonymous contributions, they will invariably involve vandalism. --204.100.184.166 (talk) 21:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perjury changes[edit]

Hey, I've reverted them for now as there is no source. Can you discuss them on the talk page first and find a source? A source is required as if it is false you are libelling them. Thanks. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 08:49, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George IV[edit]

I see nothing controversial about it. It achieves consistency with similar articles - George I, for example. Deb (talk) 17:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2016[edit]

Please see WT:YEARS#Elections, etc. I was willing to consider US Presidential elections as being notable, but I'm not sure even a notable election should be included until there's a declared candidate. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:13, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speaker of the house[edit]

Yes sorry for the confusion. I was given a talk by my local MP who informed me of this interesting fact. I appreciate that sources need to be cited and therefore I agree with your removal. Sorry for any disruption this may have caused you. God Bless --AycliffeAngel (talk) 16:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article Bob Bird has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unsourced, no evidence of notability.

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Pat,

Please go to this [2] for what I found on the reason for the use of "I".

Next: "to hyphen or not to hyphen, that is the question."

Cordialement, --Frania W. (talk) 19:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Polgar and holocaust[edit]

Hi Pat, you had made this edit about the Polgar ancestors affected by the holocaust. The current article has a trimmed version of your edit though. Can you provide a reference for the holocaust statement. Jay (talk) 08:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gorn[edit]

"most people would realise the Gorn is the one on the right" - Welllll. You can never be quite sure ... ;-) Pdfpdf (talk) 19:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback[edit]

Hello Pat. Since you do a lot of AV work, would you like me to request rollback for you? It's much faster than undo, as I can tell you from experience. Just tell me if you do. See you around, --The High Fin Sperm Whale 04:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Here you go. Good luck! --The High Fin Sperm Whale 01:02, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nero Caesar[edit]

Hi there,

I notice that last April you:

a) Retitled the page "Nero Caesar" to Nero (son of Germanicus), and

b) Put a "Nero Caesar" redirect on the page of emperor Nero.

Any chance that this might be undone? Germanicus' son (Nero Julius Caesar) is commonly differentiated from the emperor (Nero Claudius Caesar) by calling the former "Nero Caesar" and the latter just plain "Nero" (i.e. the Nero, without qualification). Similarly, we have Nero Caesar's brother, commonly called Drusus Caesar to differentiate him from Nero Drusus and Drusus the Younger.

Anyway, tell me what you think...

Many thanks Catiline63 (talk) 18:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Constituency lists[edit]

I've responded to you at Talk:List of United Kingdom Parliament constituencies. You are missing the point of the move request. I want Constituencies in the United Kingdom general election, 2010 to be moved to List of United Kingdom Parliament constituencies. For the moment, that can't happen because there is already an out-of-date article there. It is obvious that something needs to be done with that out-of-date article, but moving the 2010 list to where it belongs shouldn't have to await consensus on what to do with the out-of-date information. -Rrius (talk) 19:11, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

what is rhe new content for which you want reference? When the other person, who seems to know somethoing about it, has agreed and is OK with my edits?=[edit]

Invitation to discuss Trevor Ringland article[edit]

Please do contribute to the discussion page for the Trevor Ringland article.
Personally I'm voting agaist deletion since Trevor played both for the Irish team in the first rugby world cup and he also played for the Lions.
I look forward to reading your contribution to the debate.
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The article Stephen Metcalfe (UK politician) has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

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Ian Murray[edit]

It's not an uncontroversial move! Either this person is the primary meaning of "Ian Murray", in which case the move was wrong, or he is not, so we need to carry out the multiple move, which needs discussion and admin. involvement. I propose to move this back while the issue is properly discussed. PatGallacher (talk) 19:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • If the only obstacle to an uncontroversial move is a navigation aid (e.g., a redirect or an unnecessary disambiguation page with a minor edit history), the template db-move can be used instead to have that page deleted under criterion for speedy deletion G6. Note that this template requires two parameters: db-move. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:25, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Rude edit summary[edit]

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I have reverted your reversion and explained on the talk page why. If you want to respond, please do so on the article's talk page, as I'm not watching your page. Schwede66 01:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The article Robert Buckland has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

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Advice on getting format consensus?[edit]

Care to give me some advice here? Cordially, SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:26, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced BLPs[edit]

Please refrain from creating articles, especially those of biographies of living persons, without including a reliable source. Thank you, NW (Talk) 18:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey![edit]

You watch your tone! Terms like incompetent are uncivil, right? I tried to move Catherine, Lady Knollys to Catherine Carey but I was prevented from doing it. That's why it was "incompetent", nothing else. G.-M. Cupertino (talk) 17:21, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2008 South Ossetia War title[edit]

I made a proposal before the move request, which I think represents a decent compromise on the main issues.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 17:54, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks![edit]

Quite likely: I need to remember to avoid links in headers... Thanks again, TFOWRpropaganda 13:50, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your rollback request[edit]

Hello, per your request, I've granted you Rollback rights! Just remember:

If you have any questions, please do let me know. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:18, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It appears that you misused your rollback tool with this edit summary. Rollback is for blatant vandalism. It was only one edit so it does not jump out as a major concern. However, some editors chose not to see minor edits on their watchlists and the tool marked it as minor.Cptnono (talk) 23:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect, why would you restore a message which contained nothing but random comments and bitching about how the article is no good? I did not see a single helpful suggestion in that message, made by an anonymous user who's not made a single positive contribution to the project. At some point, a person has to do something other than make talk page comments, they have to pitch in and improve an article. Nothing was lost by my removing that message. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 17:58, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be another questionable use of rollback. WP:FORUM and a few other standards could apply for removal. Since it is questionable, it might have been better to not use rollback. There are a few others that appear to be plain bad edits and not vandalism. Take it easy with your new tool. Cptnono (talk) 00:05, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Mary O'Malley (playwright)[edit]

Hi Pat. Developments on this article. I have edited the lastest additions (links/citations needed etc) but I would like you to cast an eye over it and revise my revisions if necessary. The text you see now, I know was added by Mary O'Malley's literary agent, and you can see her original additions as well of course. She has removed the info and links to the 'women writers' retreat and to Mary's brother Tony, which to me seemed reasonable and pertinent, and which you might want to re-insert, but I have info to more than suspect it has something to do with a personal vested interest in what is presented. Although what has been written by the agent appears from a disinterested point of view, removal of uncontentious text because it might not suit the particular face that the subject wishes to present might not be Wikipedia kosher I suspect. In itself there appears not much wrong but it might be wise to keep an eye on the article as the latest major editor might be under the mistaken belief that a Wikipedia article is 'owned' and is an extension of publicity. As Pohick2 has edited the article too, I have also asked him/her to cast an eye over it as well. Many thanks,

Acabashi (talk) 12:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of participants of the Gaza flotilla[edit]

You recently added Raza Agha, Kimberly Soto Aguayo, Amil Sarsour and Viktoria Strand, Sümeyye Ertekin, Abbas Al Lawati and Joe Meadors to List of participants of the Gaza flotilla. Please, explain why they are notable enough to be listed. Do you any references about their notability (other then a news about them being on the flotilla). --Kslotte (talk) 17:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This edit, the articles you are referring to has no notability at all. Cevdet Kılıçlar, being a journalist and dieing won't make notable. Theresa McDermott, she is an activist with nothing she is especially known for or notable. --Kslotte (talk) 17:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As I see (after some consideration) it we could include Theresa McDermott, since she has been detained once before. --Kslotte (talk) 17:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Gus Macdonald[edit]

I'm not sure I agree with this move. I'd say he's best known for being a minister, as Lord Macdonald of Tradeston. I don't think he's "primarily known by his personal name" as the guideline states. JRawle (Talk) 16:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think he was widely known as a broadcaster before he got his title. However raise a move request if you want. PatGallacher (talk) 17:17, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi[edit]

What do you think about the last version of Cevdet Kılıçlar ? Takabeg (talk) 17:48, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gibson[edit]

Yep, thanks. Gwen Gale (talk) 09:16, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Are you sure about the reliability of the sources? [3] I added the sources, but when I checked the organization's website for their officers, they do not use the titles shown in the sources and do not reflect Murray as a current officer. (and have you thought about archiving your talk page?)Active Banana (talk) 04:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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John Munro[edit]

Hi there, not sure whether you've seen it, but John Munro did get moved after all. That surprised me somewhat, given that you put up a good argument against this. Get back to me on my talk page if you want to do something about it, otherwise I'll start tidying up after the move by redirecting incoming links to the dab page. Schwede66 23:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Historic Criteria of West in the European Continent[edit]

Go to the talk page of western world. 80% of the sentencesof wikipedia haven't references and sources. Why shoud I write source for evidences? In Earth artice the statement about Earth (The earth is round) hasn't source, because it is an evidence. Like 1+1 = 2. Please be more patient and polite, and don't threat me, I've friends, who (for example) can hang up your admin status. BYE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stubes99 (talkcontribs) 13:50, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sabotage[edit]

Hi Pat,

Regarding our recent sabotage edits to the Gaza flotilla article.

The problem I have with its inclusion is two-fold:

1) These are allegations based on zero information. While the allegations WERE reported in RS, they don't have any factual weight.

2) The current wording "possibly due to Israeli sabotage" gives far more weight to these allegations than they deserve.

If you feel this information needs to be included, perhaps it could be put in the section Allegations regarding the intent of the parties.

But even if it is included, it would need to be worded something like: "Some groups have made allegations of Israeli sabotage, but there is no evidence to back up their claims."

I'm going to make a temporary change to the wording above and leave it in the Ships section for the time being, but I really think it should be moved elsewhere or excluded.

Thoughts?

Zuchinni one (talk) 21:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Travers[edit]

Hi there, regarding your comment on the John Travers talk page, I'm not quite sure why you suggest that this should have been discussed first. It was clearly wrong and as such, the move was uncontroversial. When things are wrong, I'm bold and just move it. When there's a chance of it being controversial, I use the move proposal process. I'd be keen to hear your thoughts. Schwede66 01:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-neutral point of view?[edit]

What please, is non-neutral about using the official name of a city in an article that mentions that city? 84.181.96.178 (talk) 10:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

your addition[edit]

I am unable to find a good reason for your adding that content to the talkpage, please explain? Why did you add it? Off2riorob (talk) 20:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I undid the deletion as this seemed like a legitimate, if controversial, contribution to the talk page which was deleted without good reason. The Wikipedia community is entitled to take a considered decision about what, if anything, should be done with this material. PatGallacher (talk) 20:35, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You don't seem to get it, when I remove some content for my stated reasons and you look at my stated reason and decide to add the material again, it is you that have added it, do you understand that? I expressed my reasons for removing it, it is worthless, with no relation to adding anything to the article, as I said it is also copy and paste excessive content with possible copyright issues and there is no value to it being on the talkpage, a link to the content for discussion is more than enough, remove it or discuss its value on the talkpage. Off2riorob (talk) 20:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I wish to protest that this article has twice been speedily deleted, when in both cases the grounds stated for speedy deletion appear to be invalid. In the first case it was described as an "attack page", when it was not. In the second case it was clearly sourced, at least one of them was clearly an RS, but it was deleted with the statement "DB BIO". This is a cryptic message, not good practice, it took me a bit of time to figure out what this meant, I think it means that the article did not contain an assertion of notability, but it did. PatGallacher (talk) 19:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi![edit]

I believe I followed the guidelines. There are many pages named with a given name and a date, when there is many people only known by a single given name, like happens in this case. In summ, there was a good reason, and I think being bold makes this better. I've created dozens of dab pages, and this one looks definitely better. --Againme (talk) 18:54, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for never answering!--Againme (talk) 11:31, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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King Bill I and II[edit]

Hi Pat,

At Talk:Wilhelm II, German Emperor#Requested move you write "I am not aware of any guideline, in the case of multiple move requests, relating to which of the articles it should be placed at, that's a new one on me".

While I guess it's true that they could be placed anywhere, it would seem to make sense to me that it was placed at the talk page of the first article listed for discussion (in this case, Wilhelm I, German Emperor, not Willhelm II). It can be confusing otherwise, if only temporarily, that it's at another page. I thnk the problem here was exascerbated by the fact that it was not listed for discussion at Talk:Wilhelm I, German Emperor until I added it. Seems like something got mixed up somewhere.

Best wishes Si Trew (talk) 11:07, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stun Grenade[edit]

Hi Pat,

I regarding the edit you just made to the Gaza flotilla removing mention of the stun grenade "because it wasn't in the source". Here is the video, from the source listed showing the stun grenade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6sAEYpHF24&feature=player_embedded

Here is a mention of it in the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/02/israel-gaza-attack-flotil_n_597951.html

Here is a mention of it in the Jerusalem Post

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177261

I do agree with the "fire bomb" not being verified though so that should probably stay out. But can you self-revert the stun grenade part?

Thanks,

The stun grenade was not in the source originally quoted, the IDF website. The video raises several problems. PatGallacher (talk) 21:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC) Zuchinni one (talk) 18:58, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever the merits of these issues, this should really have been raised on the article's talk page not here. I suspect some attempt to get round the 1RR. PatGallacher (talk) 10:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your Gaza flotilla raid revert[edit]

Hi. I'm going to reinstate the change you just reverted. I realize it's a long article, but it's a relevant, well-cited quotation, and besides, the section is out-of-balance without a single non-governmental commentator being included. But in making the edit you appear to have missed the point of he quotation I added. Geller's description of a humanitarian aid flotilla as "the jihad warship flotilla" is so utterly laughable, and her assertion that it was launched "to provoke the tiny Jewish State into war" is so completely ridiculous, that the effect her statements will have on intelligent readers will be just the opposite of what she intended. Sometimes the best way to expose someone to ridicule is just to let them speak. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 19:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NCNT[edit]

I really think you should start a discussion at WP:NCNT if you believe that Wikipedia should not recognise titles for formerly reigning royals. Because that is the complete opposite to current practice, there are literally hundreds if not thousands of formerly reigning royals whose article names include titles. I don’t see the point in trying to change one or two here and there, if you feel strongly about the issue surely you would want to change the whole practice and system. - dwc lr (talk) 20:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Replied. Nergaal (talk) 20:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Benn[edit]

Re. this edit - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tony_Benn&diff=377329904&oldid=377308972 In future, please refer to this discussion on the talk page before adding erroneous and harmful information. Terryitaloan (talk) 02:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Dad's Army characters[edit]

How do you speedy close an AFD? I'm not really sure why the nominator didn't just prod/merge template it. I'd much rather have it as a redirect than simply delete the article, because of all the incoming links. Bob talk 16:51, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure you can speedy close an AFD, the discussion ought to run its course. PatGallacher (talk) 16:58, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Warning?[edit]

Excuse me?[4]? Surtsicna (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

rv deletion of anime trivia[edit]

Of course it's trivial, do we need to mention every time a chesire cat was featured in some obscure anime/manga episode watched only by about 13 Wapanese nerds? Trivia sections should be avoided if possible as per the WP:MOS, and if they are used, should at least contain notable information 87.112.144.247 (talk) 15:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Erdinç Tekir[edit]

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:MV_Avrasaya, the material which appears to violate BLP policy is added again this time to the talk page of the article of the ship he hijacked. I'm against use of terrorism.info.org as you can see from my note there. What dou you think? Kavas (talk) 23:56, 21 September 2010 (UTC) See [5]. I don't think that you deleted that comment erroneously, right? Kavas (talk) 18:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I am well aware of the dangers of edit warring. However I feel I should point out that I stopped before violating the 3RR, which I have no intention of breaking, Maleus Fatuorum did not. PatGallacher (talk) 17:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your addition of a POV tag as it was unexplained; although in your edit summary you referred to the talk page there was nothing there. While you may have been drafting an explanation, in this instance it would be better to be circumspect and talk things over before being bold. #Especially as you've already been warned for edit warring and have not bothered discussing the issue properly. Nev1 (talk) 17:48, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would have thought that if somebody says "see talk" or similar they are entitled to a couple of minutes to explain themselves. As I have now done so can I put the flag back? PatGallacher (talk) 17:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Are you an admin? PatGallacher (talk) 18:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
'Fraid so. Nev1 (talk) 18:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yerevan post-independence[edit]

First, the number of deaths was 8 and not 10, second, talking about demonstrations in the history section does not represent an important period in the history of the city. If you want to talk about those events you are welcome in this article. Kevorkmail (Kevorkmail) 19:42, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pat. For what it's worth, I can confirm that 90.208.85.226 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) is the subject, per a correspondence found on the OTRS system. That confirmation may help with any future communication with this IP. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Archives?[edit]

Hey, for what it's worth, I think you might want to start archiving your talk page (which is becoming a hassle to go through)! See : Archiving.

You don't have to do so, but it would make it much easier to read!

Thanks!  CET   †  11:14, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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