User talk:Patken4/Sandbox/List of sporting venues with a capacity of 100,000 or more
One suggestion is that we keep this list based on current values: current capacity and currently in use or not.
It could have happened that once in a particular match, there was a huge attendance beyond the capacity of the stadium, but that's basically a fault of organizers. They should not have allowed people more than they can accommodate safely. And its also a trivia that once so many people attended and only once so happened. Current capacity of the stadium looks like a better criteria for ranking. If you agree, you can drop the column for maximum capacity.
For the other point, currently in use for sports or not, for example Strahov Stadium is not used for sports anymore, its just a training ground for now and it may make way for other use in future. So, I would suggest moving it to the second table. Also, some stadiums can accommodate more people when the stadium is used for concerts. But, here we are considering only sports use. So, either max capacity or current capacity should not be considered if it is not for sports use.
Also, another point you may consider. Some users wrote in the discussion page about why states for US stadiums are not mentioned. I think it is better to add State/Province information in Location info, as far as possible, for all entries. If you need help for this, I can help.GDibyendu (talk) 09:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Regarding only doing those stadiums that are currently 100,000 or more, I wanted the list to look at this from both a current and historical point of view. So even if a stadium is currently less than 100,000, at one point it did have a capacity that high, regardless of the circumstances surrounding. I did move Strahov Stadium to the historical stadium list. As for adding the states, I don't know how much value it would add. Thanks again! Patken4 (talk) 21:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well, in present list also, there are Stadiums with less than 100,000 capacity - nothing wrong about keeping it that way. But, currently it does not have maximum capacity column now, so that's a change.
- The "Current seating capacity" column is the highest the venue can maintain now, so it is already in there.
- If you want to add it, then you should be also able to provide information whether the default max capacity was ever attained or not. And another logic is that: 'capacity' always means how many it can accommodate, not exactly how many were actually present on certain days. Also, for such a case, there will be difference in official and unofficial numbers and in some cases, you'll find that not all the people were able to reach the gallery and all. These type of info can be there in stadium-specific page, but list can avoid those details and stick to official capacity without bothering about whether it was ever full/over-crowded or not. BTW, I am personally not against the addition of the column, but it does not seem logical to me to rank the stadiums based on one day's crowd.
- Some venues have changed their seating arrangements. Specifically, Hampden Park used to regularly attract over 100,000 fans. Today, because of the Taylor Report mandating that all areas sit and the addition of a roof means it simply cannot have 100,000 people anymore. But 50 years ago, it could. So the highest attendance and the Current capacity are both sortable.
- About State/Province info, for example, the largest stadium's location is actually Speedway, Indiana, USA. It's surrounded by Indianapolis city but it's a different town officially. If the state is not specified, then just mentioning Speedway, USA does not give clear picture about where exactly it lies. Current list mentions the location of this stadium as Indianapolis, USA (which is more well-known place).
- I should have known it was Speedway, Indiana, considering I've been there a couple of times now. Thanks for the catch and I've added states and provinces to the US and Canadian venues.!