User talk:Patricia Mannerheim/Archive 1

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@Minorax: plz see this. below the article. are there specifically wrote in persian and english:

عکس: امیر زنده رود. Amir Zendehrood وضعیت حقوقی عکس: در مالکیت عمومی است.The photos are in the public domain, as stated explicitly in Persian at the bottom of the source . thank you. Patricia Mannerheim (talk) 10:08, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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@SunDawn: hi my friend. thaks alot for ur attention. Patricia Mannerheim (talk) 10:31, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:College of Fine Arts (University of Tehran)

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Your draft article, Draft:College of Fine Arts (University of Tehran)

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Nomination of Dr. Project Point Blank Blues Band for deletion

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May 2023

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you translated text from fi:Toivala to Toivala. While you are welcome to translate Wikipedia content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing requires that you provide attribution to the contributor(s) of the original article. When translating from a foreign-language Wikipedia article, this is supplied at a minimum in an edit summary on the page where you add translated content, identifying it as a translation and linking it to the source page. For example: Content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at [[:fr:Exact name of French article]]; see its history for attribution. It is good practice, especially if translation is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{translated page}} template on the talk pages of the destination article. If you have added translated content previously which was not attributed at the time it was added, please add attribution retrospectively for that also, even if it was a long time ago. You can read more about author attribution and the reasons for it at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia.

In addition, please make sure to ensure the accuracy of the translation, especially if you are using machine translation. For example, machine translation from Finnish to English commonly makes mistakes with inflected names. Ljleppan (talk) 21:16, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

@Ljleppan:so much thanks for your attention.ok I will. Patricia Mannerheim (talk) 07:33, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Mehdi Tehrani for deletion

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Ladsgroup^overleg 13:12, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Mehdi Tehrani for deletion

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Ladsgroup^overleg 22:47, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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please add the population figures from the latest census, with a reference

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@MPGuy2824: Hi. Thanks for remind me. consider it Done.for next..-- Patricia Mannerheim (talk) 09:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Abolfazl Mahdiar for deletion

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Nomination of Muojärvi for deletion

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UtherSRG (talk) 10:32, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of College of Fine Arts (University of Tehran) for deletion

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UtherSRG (talk) 10:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Pehr W. Palmrooth for deletion

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Nomination of Khalil Dashtizadeh for deletion

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Nomination of Yadollah Khalili for deletion

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Nomination of Mahmoud Zarrabi for deletion

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Nomination of Baghdad operation for deletion

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Mehrangiz Mallah moved to draftspace

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Proposed deletion of Hilja Tavaststjerna

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Notability

Hi (again),

I've said this to you before, and I can see that others have also raised the same or related points here, but I feel like I need to remind you again that notability is absolutely essential, and a hard requirement for any article to be accepted into Wikipedia. When translating articles (eg. from the Finnish Wikipedia, as you seem to do), the first thing you must check is whether the sources are adequate, and if not, whether you can find more and/or better ones. If not, then there is no point in translating that article, because it will simply not be accepted. And creating lots of articles which fail on notability grounds not only generates additional work for others at NPP, AfC and/or AfD, as well as admins, it will also eventually attract the sort of attention you don't really want to attract. Once more: just because an article exists in eg. fi.wiki does not mean it must be translated into English, and – more to the point – it does not mean it will be accepted here.

HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:22, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello @DoubleGrazing: and Thanks for your attention, I will have to be more careful in finding sources for the article. But please admit that articles about Finnish women are really weak. I compare with articles about Swedish women, I see that Swedish speakers (I am familiar with Swedish language) are better off. The best thing is: I will stop writing Finnish articles for a while. I pay attention to women of other nationalities and write articles for them according to sources. Unfortunately, due to being in a wheelchair, I lost the ability to attend the university where I teach and attend libraries for a few months. The internet is also sometimes not helpful. I strongly believe that offline sources can help the essay. Another thing: Patricia never wants to be the user who ignores the teachings of other experienced users. I always respond to a friendly comment deeply positively and respectfully. —Patricia (Talk) 11:36, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

FWIW, I fully agree that Wikipedia should have more articles on women, in general and Finnish women specifically, which is why, like you, I also take part in the Women in Red project to help rectify this. But we still need to comply with the notability etc. requirements, because there is little point in creating an article only for it to be deleted soon afterwards for lack of notability. It pains me every time, while doing new page patrolling, when I come across a poorly-sourced article and know that I must either draftify or delete it, but alas these are the rules by which we have to play. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:23, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Hilja Tavaststjerna for deletion

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Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:49, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Once again with the translations

Hi again. Please stop inventing translated names for artistic works like you did with the edits Special:Diff/1179479740, Special:Diff/1179490007 and Special:Diff/1179509828. This isn't complicated, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles of works#Translations. At the same time, please take the time to translate all Finnish language prose in the articles you are creating. To make this abundantly clear, let me give you a direct example.

This Finnish language entry

Jouluilta satumaassa: viisi pientä satunäytelmää, Astrid Wång-Mariani, kuv. Margit Broberg, suom. Immi Hellén. Kuvataide, 1930.

should be translated as

Jouluilta satumaassa: viisi pientä satunäytelmää, Astrid Wång-Mariani, ill. Margit Broberg, transl. Immi Hellén. Kuvataide, 1930.

if you want to keep the abbreviated style, or as

Jouluilta satumaassa: viisi pientä satunäytelmää, Astrid Wång-Mariani, illustrated by Margit Broberg, translated by Immi Hellén. Kuvataide, 1930.

if you want to write out the abbreviations, or as

Jouluilta satumaassa: viisi pientä satunäytelmää (A Christmas Evening in a Fairy Tale Land: Five Small Fairy Tale Plays), Astrid Wång-Mariani, illustrated by Margit Broberg, translated by Immi Hellén. Kuvataide, 1930.

if you want to include a literal English translation (potentially translated by you) for the benefit of the readers.

What you did at Immi Hellén,

Christmas night in fairyland: five small fairy-tale plays. Astrid Wång-Mariani, kuv. Margit Broberg, suom. Immi Hellén. Kuvataide, 1930.

is the worst possible way to do it. First, it lies to the reader by claiming that the work is well known by the English language title you appear to have just made up. Second, it leaves the actual associated prose untranslated from Finnish: readers who don't understand Finnish will have no idea what kuv. or suom. mean. Third, it's not a faithful translation: fairyland would be reasonable if the original was something like keijumaa or keijujen maa, but not for satumaa (lit. 'land of the fairy tales'). Ljleppan (talk) 19:07, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm sure this is not the best way to stop and disobey me. The best way to learn and help edit articles. Check out these articles: Anette Reuterskiöld, Lina Snellman. Some have been translated, some have not.

But about the last article you kept pressuring me. The history of edits is also proof of my words. You can't stop me from writing, from now on leave a message on the discussion page of the article. in this way I re-edited most of the articles you criticized. —Patricia (Talk) 10:49, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

October 2023

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ljleppan (talk) 21:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

good work. keep move. —Patricia (Talk) 11:22, 15 October 2023 (UTC)