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บทความนี้ผมได้ทำการเปลี่ยนชื่อกลับไปใช้ชื่อเดิมครับ เพราะว่าหัวชื่อบทความกษัตริย์ไทยในหน้าภาษาอังกฤษใช้ชื่อตัวครับ ไม่ใช่ใช้ชื่อเมื่อครองราชย์แล้ว รวมถึงการเปลี่ยนชื่อบทความมีผลทำให้แม่แบบเสียไป

ให้สังเกตุว่ารัชการอื่นๆก็ใช้ชื่อส่วนตัวหมดครับ ยกเว้นรัชการที่หนึ่งกับสองเพราะมีชื่อเดียวจึงกลับไปใช้ชื่อเจษฎาราชเจ้าเหมือนเดิม

--โจ : แฟนท่าเรือ : เกรียนที่หน้าตาไม่ดีแห่งไร้สาระนุกรม : พูดคุยกับควายตัวนี้ได้ที่นี่ 05:51, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

ประเด็นนี้เคยมีการหารือกันก่อนหน้านี้ที่ Talk:Jessadabodindra นะครับ เหตุที่เห็นว่าบทความควรใช้ชื่อ Nangklao มากกว่าเพราะ (1) แหล่งอ้างอิงที่เชื่อถือได้ส่วนใหญ่ในภาษาอังกฤษต่างใช้ชื่อ Nangklao (หรือ Rama III) เกือบทั้งสิ้น (2) การใช้พระนามเรียกชื่อพระมหากษัตริย์ราชวงศ์จักรีในภาษาอังกฤษ เพิ่งเริ่มใช้กันแพร่หลายตั้งแต่รัชกาลที่ 4 เป็นต้นมา (3) เจษฎาบดินทร์ เป็นราชทินนาม (ทรงกรมเป็น กรมหมื่นเจษฎาบดินทร์) ไม่ใช่พระนาม (ที่ถูกต้องคือ พระเจ้าลูกยาเธอ พระองค์เจ้าชายทับ) จึงไม่สามารถใช้ได้ตามการให้เหตุผลข้างต้นครับ --Paul_012 (talk) 17:36, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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Porn vs Phon

You are right that porn is common within English language usage, especially before RGTS. But Thai intellectuals (teachers, artists and writers) that I know feel strongly about the use of the term porn in Latin script because of its demeaning connotations in English, especially when connected with young women, religion and culture, the theme of the Nariphon article. The reason is that it could lead to misinterpretations, this is why I had kept "porn" deliberately out and stuck to RTGS. (Xufanc (talk) 11:40, 9 September 2012 (UTC))

I'm not sure if Wikipedia policy supports making such editorial judgements. The redirect's there, though, so it shouldn't matter much. I won't dispute if you want to change it back. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:24, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't see anything in Wikipedia:NFCC that restricts use of a non-free samples to just articles about the work that has been sampled. I believe that it meets the criteria #8: :"Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Contextual significance means that the sample makes a contribution in the context in which it is being used. The Bangkok article has an entire section devoted to explain how unusual the full name of the city of Bankok is, and the song is very relevant and helps the reader understand the subject better. If not unique, it is very, very unusual for a songs lyric to consist IN ITS ENTIRETY of just the name of a place. That is all that the songs lyric contains, repeated over and over and over, and it is the song that is responsible for most of the occupants being able to remember the name of their city. So the name of the city, the name of the song, and the song itself are all connected, and best discussed where it is.

It seems as though you would not object to the sample being in an article about the song. I don't know if there is really any need to write an article just about the song. There is not much more to say about it than has been said in the article about Bangkok. If in the future, it was to have its own article, then the use of the sample could be moved there and the song could be linked from the Bangkok article. I don't think it should matter either way. I find both uses acceptable and don't understand how it would be acceptable in one use and not in the other.

I don't claim to be an expert on fair use, and I tend to be liberal in my interpretation of Wikipedia guidelines, so I willing to discuss this further and perhaps see how my interpretation is in error. If there is some relevant guideline or discussion that explains your objections in more detail, I'd like to see it. But for now, I think the tag should be removed. -- SamuelWantman 07:01, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Your arguments are reasonable, but I'm still not sure how policy should be interpreted in this case. I've copied the discussion and submitted a non-free content review. Thanks for sharing your opinions. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:51, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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The effect you want with code like {{[[Template:See also|see also]]}} is more easily achieved with {{tlx|see also}}. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 02:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. Actually, I already use {{tl}}; I just have a habit of subst:ing these templates. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I failed this straight off. Article needs a major improvement if it is to pass. Feel free to ask me for some pointers on how to get it up to GA.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:02, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Replied on talk page of Bangkok, cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:41, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

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Default scale in Location maps

I very much like the idea of autoscaling vertical maps (especially in infoboxes). I just added defaultscale=0.75 to {{Location map USA California}}. Thanks for implementing it!

One comment: shouldn't defaultscale for vertical maps generally be 0.75? This is analogous to the "upright" flag in the image markup. I noticed that you set defaultscale for Thailand to be 0.57. This strikes me as being too small. When the default width of a map is 272 (in an infobox, say), then I think editors would be surprised if the map is scaled to be 272 pixels tall. Infoboxes are generally taller than they are wide, by design, so having a 204 by 359 pixel Thailand map seems just fine to me. —hike395 (talk) 14:00, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

I was under the impression that the 0.75 scale for the upright flag was assuming a 4:3 image ratio, so that the height of upright images (those that are of that proportion) matched the width of others. You do have a point though about infoboxes having more vertical space. I'll consider it; thanks for the suggestion. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for you attempt at improving Wikipedia. –droll [chat] 18:53, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry. I can see that nothing will be broken. I would still like to have a chance to think this over. Thanks for you patience. –droll [chat] 20:29, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
It's okay, thanks. I'd written up a somewhat detailed explanation before I saw your second message, so I posted it on the template talk page anyway. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:34, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I left a comment at Template talk:Infobox map. I guess I was being a little paranoid. I had never run across any of you work before. I notice that you created your account about a month and a half before I created mine. –droll [chat] 23:56, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Paul. Check out the talk page there if you have a chance. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:10, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Paul, I've transferred the correct information to Commons. Maxim(talk) 17:11, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

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Bang-kok's kok, by Edmund Roberts

Edmund Roberts (diplomat) always hyphenates 'Bang-kok" in his journal, but not in his treaty. He put this footnote referring to a landing at the bottom of page 234 [digital image 241]:

* On the right bank of the river, which is called Bang-kok—the word Bang-kok is derived from ban, a house, and kok, a garden. Most of the fruit used at the old capital, came from this place.

Don't know where he got garden for kok. The on-line Royal Institute Dictionary (RID) for the noun กอก gives มะกอก and adds (มะกอกบ้าน หรือ มะกอกป่า ก็เรียก.) Nor do I know why he says "ban, a house" instead of bang. For bang RID has one definition as water tambon, or district. Note Bang- in central Thai place names always refers to a ban, in the sense of hamlet, on a riverbank or shore. Roberts also wrote:

The spot on which the present capital stands, and the country in its vicinity, on both banks of the river for a considerable distance, were formerly, before the removal of the court to its present situation, called Bang-kok ; but since that time, and for nearly sixty years past, it has been named Sia yuthia, (pronounced See-ah you-tè-ah, and by the natives, Krung, that is, the capital ;) it is called by both names here, but never Bang-kok ; and they always correct foreigners when the latter make this mistake. The villages which occupy the right hand of the river, opposite to the capital, pass under the general name of Bang-kok. [page 281, image 288.]

My wife says the capital was still called Krung when she was a child there, 40 years ago.—Pawyilee (talk) 15:55, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

PS: "Bang" was defined as "haven" in the only use of the word I've ever seen in Isan. It was in an English-language pamplet on the etymology of Mukdahan. It said "Muk" came from "Bang-Muk," a haven for clams on the right bank of the Mekong, across from Savannaket. Our article calls it Muk Creek (Thai: ห้วยมุก) instead.—Pawyilee (talk) 16:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the source. I'll try to work some of it into the article some time. --Paul_012 (talk) 02:18, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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I noticed I've done lots of crazy copy-and-paste edits for the last three months, this is because I don't have time to rewrite the pages, which I'm going to do it today, but now it's 3am in Vietnam so I may not done it within tonight.--DKH2010 (talk) 20:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

BMT paragraph and inaccuracy

"to undergo rapid development during 2004–09. The plan was approved by the cabinet on 7 September 2004, and consisted of the following extensions:

However, by 2008 only 41 kilometres (25 mi) of the proposed extensions had been constructed. The OTP accordingly made modifications to the plan in November 2008 to provide for a more suitable framework.[1]"

It is incorrect to say that by "2008 only 41kms of the proposed extensions had been constructed". The sentence refers to the plan adopted on 7 September 2004. By 2008 no extension had opened and only the 2.2km BTS Silom line ext to WWY had been constructed but had as yet not opened (May 2009). No proposed extensions as of the Sept 2004 had been constructed at all by 2008!

The sentence should either read "by 2008 no proposed extensions had been constructed". Or, "by 2008 the 41km of existing lines had not been extended nor no new lines added."

It is completely inaccurate hence why it was changed.

As an added point it should be highlighted that the 10 line plan was taken to the 2005 election and the PM promised to implement all lines by the end of the decade. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yappofloyd (talkcontribs) 07:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

When changing a fact cited to a reference, please also replace the reference, because the new facts are no longer supported by the old ref. That's the inaccuracy I was referring to. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:58, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

HDI

I can't find Thai provinces HDI on the internet, but I found the similar index called HAI (Human Achievement Index), but the values are different. I did not write the HDI index, but I copied from the Provinces of Thailand article, it is already written.--DKH2010 (talk) 13:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

I have reverted all my own copy-and-paste edits to be honest, but I notice a lot of unsourced information, I would like you to help removing unsourced information on the article.--DKH2010 (talk) 13:55, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are trying to do now after I've looked through your contributions, you deleted everything I wrote and posted messages to admins. Isn't it ok to use layout from another article? I assume that, as long as the article is accurate, it is ok. I've tried reverting my own edits on many articles now.

As you are from Thailand, I would like you to try your best on editing articles about Thailand.

For the Thai license plates, I saw the IPs reverted back again while the negotiation has been finished, it should be done now. I don't want that either. I'm not saying you cannot edit.--DKH2010 (talk) 04:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

It's okay to copy from another article, but attribution has to be given as noted in WP:Copying within Wikipedia. Copying the layout is fine, but your copying content and replacing country names resulted in obviously wrong information. For example, when you created Thai national ID card, you mostly replaced "Malaysia" with "Thailand", which resulted in inaccuracies such as a link to MSC Thailand, which doesn't exist, and the claim that "Thailand became the first country in the world to use...", which of course is incorrect. Likewise, when you tried to create the Time in Cambodia article, you replaced Thaksin Shinawatra's name with Hun Sen's, resulting which also is plain wrong. The articles' content should have been written from scratch. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:50, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
I just want to change layout Malaysia -> Thailand -> Cambodia, lol. I don't know much info, or if I know i would change it. Actually we are going to edit soon, like what you did, remove false info. Example at List of Thai loanwords, it's not my job to correct, it's yours since you speak Thai.--DKH2010 (talk) 03:38, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh and what's the "attribute"? How can I put it? Anyway I'm leaving Wikipedia soon.--DKH2010 (talk) 03:40, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

CNNgo as a ref

I would normally not use just any CNNGo article as a reference but in the case of "World's 50 best foods" for the Thai cuisine article, the poll was organised by the staff, and not a random CNNGo blogger. As such it seemed newsworthy enough to include into the article. Regards, - Takeaway (talk) 15:44, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Provinces

I have removed the HDI information on Nonthaburi Province article, the rest should be the same, only the formatting. I want it to be done with every province. The current infobox looks unprofessional. All informations should be the same.--DKH2010 (talk) 17:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

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Bangkok City Scape

I am wondering why you removed the photo of the Silom area. The photo that it replaced is sub standard, low res and is for the most part the sky?

The photo that I used is High res, is representative of the "city scape" and far more reasonable of a photo then the one you restored. I see in your history that you do a lot of edits of Thailand and am wondering if you feel that night photo of the Silom area (Financial district) is NOT representative of the true cityscape of Bangkok, and readers would be better served looking at the clouds in the sky over Bangkok?? talk--WPPilot 10:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Bangkok#Bangkok City Scape. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:35, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Thailand

Hi Paul. I was just wondering if you were aware that I have been trying for over a year to awake interest in a Thai user group with an evebtual view to founding a local chapter. Do you live in Thailand? Perhaps we should meet. Regards, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk)

I wasn't aware of that. I'm in Bangkok, but I haven't had much time for Wikipedia as of late. I believe there is (or was) a substantial community on the Thai Wikipedia, but few users seem to edit both here and there. (I don't.) --Paul_012 (talk) 10:57, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
e last meetup I called was well published on the Thai Wiki, but only one person turned up. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit Wars

You sir are taking on a edit war over photos that have NO TRUE VALUE to the WP readers, please stop and remember that you do not own these pages. Your impression of what is of value with regard to photographs seems to have no true professional history, please stop. I will bring this to the attention of Admins and request that other people provide perspective, you sir do not OWN the Bangkok pages, so please stop stalking my edits and contributions. Thank you: talk --WPPilot 13:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Please read WP:Edit war, thanks. Your attitude isn't really helping here. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:18, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Stalking edits

Don't you have anything better to do then stalk my edits here? Most people on Wikipedia communicate, while I may have miss named the file, (it was hot today and I was tired) I am tired of you following my edits. I will dis continue contributing to your pages about Thailand if you continue to stalk me. Use MY talk page if you have something to comment on, and please allow me to correct things that might be incorrect about the photos. I have a talk page that I read and it would be far less disruptive if you were able to communicate like a normal Wiki editor.--WPPilot 16:34, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry; I was merely trying to help. I'll keep in mind that you prefer to be told before such changes. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:06, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you, perhaps we got off to a bad start, forgive me if I was a bit outspoken on our efforts here. I have been doing professional photography for many years and my objective is to "always improve" everything that I edit. I am here for a week and plan to reshoot a number of pages. You are clearly an expert on this area and I am not opposed to suggestions, if you have any Paul. As you have seen I have been doing photos of Thailand for many years. I do have most of my equipment with me and would be happy to do anything (photographically) that I can to improve these Thai pages. Cheers.--WPPilot 20:41, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad to hear that. I mightn't have been communicating as well as I should have either, so my apologies for that too. --Paul_012 (talk) 02:55, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for helping with the Thai sources at the DRV! Hobit (talk) 13:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Flickr image

Hello Paul,

would you mind if this picture of Wat Phra Dhammakaya complex that you uploaded on flickr (I assume that you are identic with this flickr account owner) would be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? It would be great for illustrating the magnitude of the temple structures. You have already released it under Creative Commons licence, but I thought that it would be more friendly to ask you beforehand. Kind regards --RJFF (talk) 20:17, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I've uploaded it to File:Wat Phra Dhammakaya aerial view May 2010.jpg. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:22, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! --RJFF (talk) 19:04, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Preah Vihear at ITN

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"Sala kan parian" or "sala kan prian"?

I'm not sure why this was changed from "prian" to "parian". Shouldn't it be "prian" per RTGS? - Takeaway (talk) 09:03, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

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File:BangkokMRTMasterPlan-LatestOnJAN2014.jpg is many stations name different from http://www.flickr.com/photos/viriyincy/12473114103/, you can check this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirasith (talkcontribs) 17:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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Bueng Kan

The wiki-link you re-added was wrong as it went to the Bueng Kan Township and not Province. Sentence grammar, and link have been corrected.

Jackfork (talk) 01:52, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:01, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Ram Khamhaeng‎

I'm highly interested in why you just now up-graded this article to high importance, though my sense of what's currently going on in Thailand, does indeed make it so. I'm making suggestion on its Talk page. —Pawyilee (talk) 13:56, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I actually downgraded it from Top-importance. I didn't think that reading about King Ram Khamhaeng as an individual was utterly essential to a reader's understanding of Thailand. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Thailand coup article assessment

You have recently changed my assessment to "This article is fairly important to this project, as it covers a general area of knowledge." I think the article and the events are of top importance to Thailand and hence it's project on the Wikipedia. What is your opinion please? I think to say that coup and living under military rule is merely "fairly important" might be an understatement. Dmatteng (talk) 14:18, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

My line of thinking was that as this is somewhere between the 12th and 18th coup in Thailand (depending on how you count), and the second in less than a decade, in the grand scheme of things articles about individual coups like this one may not turn out to be as important to the reader's understanding of Thailand as, say, the summary article History of Thailand and its sub-articles. It's likely that by next year there won't be nearly as much interest in the topic any more. However, I hadn't considered that it may be appropriate to adjust an article's importance assessment as events progress and change. I won't oppose if you want to change it back to Top-importance for now. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I agree with your line of reasoning. So I'll change it back to Top-importance for now, and we will reassess it if it will become "just another coup". One issue however, I have watched the Coup leader's speech in which he outlined his plan, and he insists that the reforms will be introduced under military rule, and he intends to step down in one-two years time (if I remember right). This period of time under military rule seems to be significant, and though I don't know the history of other coups this one seems to be different in this important aspect. Dmatteng (talk) 16:04, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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Pakorn Lum

Thanks for pointing out the Thai page-I usually look for the alternate languages but since the writing of that was small I seemed to have missed it and was thinking that this guy has nothing for him. So yeah thanks! Wgolf (talk) 01:04, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Dr. Pavithran

Aww okay thanks for the clarification-I was not sure at first but then it seemed like they could of been the same person! Wgolf (talk) 14:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Season's greetings

Wishing you a happy Loi Krathong and Yi Peng! - Takeaway (talk) 09:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Happy Loi Krathong to you too. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:56, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Wrong name of category

Note that in the future, if you make a category page with the wrong name, you can move it to the right name rather than creating a whole new page and tagging the old one for deletion. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:23, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. As a non-admin, though, that would still leave a redirect, wouldn't it? --Paul_012 (talk) 15:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

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Yuan Phai

Hi, Paul. Thanks. I looked this up before posting the map. As far as I read it, Google actively encourages you to use Google Earth images on the net and elsewhere, but insists (quite reasonably) that the image includes their logo and their copyright claim. See http://www.google.com/permissions/geoguidelines.html. I adjusted the map I made to make sure it conformed to those conditions. So what's the problem?

Thanks for the Historical Park shot. I'd found that and planned to link it in later. Chrispasuk (talk) 01:09, 17 November 2014 (UTC) 1:07, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Laotian Rebellion (1826-1828) Title

Hi Paul, I've added some discussion on the title of the Laotian Rebellion (1826-1828) page, also I'll be posting additional references soon. Thanks for your help and interest, if there are any sections that need to be built out I'd appreciate your input- Thanks StampyElephant (talk) 03:16, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

List of butterflies of Indochina

Hi Paul I wondered about that myself. I put a note on the talk page and on [1]. Best regards and thanks Notafly (talk) 16:59, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Paul Thanks to your initial interest this article is greatly improved I hope.I am finding Myanmar a problem but one wich may be soon resolved.Best regards Robert aka Notafly (talk) 19:25, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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Chakhe/krapeu

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Sorry, I have just seen that you have already answered at Talk:Chakhe. My bad. Thanks again. --RJFF (talk) 11:36, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Sathorn Unique Tower

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Hi. I saw that you added the fact that Bangkok Governor Krisda Arunvongse na Ayudhya was the same individual as the sport shooter who competed in the 1960 and 1964 Summer Olympics. The Sports Reference link, however, does not mention that he later became Governor and none of the Governor's obituary mention his Olympic participation, which seems like a significant oversight, even if his political career was far more notable. Do you happen to have a source that explicitly connects the two individuals? Canadian Paul 17:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

This obituary from the MIT does, and so does the profile on his firm's website. --Paul_012 (talk) 19:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Great, thanks so much! Canadian Paul 17:10, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

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Thai Union Group

So far, the COI editors on the Thai Union Group article have been doing quite a nice job of improving the article, and, after the warning, even re-instating the critical refs that initially had been removed from the article. How about waiting a bit to see what else they're going to do? I've re-instated the COI tag, and the article can always be cleaned up later to more fully conform with WP:NPOV. - Takeaway (talk) 12:29, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay, sounds reasonable. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

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Khanom khai

I noticed you split the article Khanom khai nok kratha into two: Khanom khai nok kratha and Khanom khai. I recently tagged both for merger due to the fact that they appear to be the same food, as "khanom khai" on its own literally means "dessert egg". I am not familiar with Thai cuisine, however, and you seem to know more than I would on the subject. MB298 (talk) 05:54, 2 January 2016 (UTC) (Please notify me with a talkback template if a reply is posted to this message).

Replied on article talk page. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:01, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

WP:RM

Hi. Please read WP:RM#CM ("Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested") I'm contesting it, so this process must be used. Continuing to move a page without discussion can be viewed as disruptive. On another note, if you add dates of deaths of any individual they must be sourced, per WP:BLP, which covers living people and recently deceased people too. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 12:57, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't feel like spending any more time on the issue right now, though. Now I know you're a very busy contributor and Wikipedia has standards to maintain and all that, but I wonder if you'd considered adopting a less confrontational (and more WP:AGF) approach. It might make other editors more willing to help contribute to the articles you create. Just a thought. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:10, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

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Doi Inthanon National Park observatory image revert

Hi Paul. :) Re this, so what does it show? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:32, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

It's a small test telescope that was set up prior to the establishment of the observatory. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:36, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I see. Okay. I didn't notice that. Many thanks! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:39, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks, but that draft was still very much a work in progress and never intended for submission. The user who placed the submission template seems to have misunderstood my intentions. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:56, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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@Omni Flames:, I'd like some explanation. Thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:16, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

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Krabi International School

Hi Paul. I just wanted to let you know about my reasoning behind declining the speedy delete of Krabi International School. I saw the talk page and wasn't sure if it was students putting the article together. I guessed it was probably staff, hence paid editors. But, just in case, I deleted the copyvio version and restored a clean version with no speedy tag. I then posted at talk asking who the author was. If no response, I will probably AfD. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:16, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

No opinion really; I think it was someone else who placed the CSD tag? --Paul_012 (talk) 10:38, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. I know it was someone else. I just wanted it on record somewhere why I would un-speedy a totally promotional article started by a totally COI account and not block that account. :) Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:47, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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Bunsom Martin

Thank you for your great additions to this article, but please don't remove existing things that you don't think are important, he is also notable for Scouting.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:58, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

I just finished the 5 other Thais on the list-I can't read Thai, so I do not know if they are notable for other things as well.

Dansuputra Chitra Bhethai Amatayakul Visudharomn Kong Sumon Samasarn Sutham Phanthusak--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:20, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much, again! Sorry about the name order, the awards list has had several mistakes I found. I corrected everywhere they were linked. Great work, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:27, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

:I just started Sornsawan Opal Ho, when you have time, could you please add the Thai?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:35, 21 November 2016 (UTC) Cancel that, she contacted me and doesn't want her name in Thai script-nervous about security.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:52, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

List of Jai Jai Jai Bajrang Bali episodes (Episode 1086-1300)

Did I do something wrong when splitting off List of Jai Jai Jai Bajrang Bali episodes (Episode 1086-1300) from List of Jai Jai Jai Bajrang Bali episodes that you tagged it with copypaste? When creating the split off I stated in the summary split off from List of Jai Jai Jai Bajrang Bali episodes. And at the source I stated in the summary Episode 1086-1300 split off to List of Jai Jai Jai Bajrang Bali episodes (Episode 1086-1300). The Banner talk 00:43, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

The CWW issues were inherited from the original article, which appears to have copied (without proper context) from various articles. Sorry for the confusion. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:16, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Then I prefer that you nominate for deletion all involved articles, so also List of Jai Jai Jai Bajrang Bali episodes (Episode 1-1085), Jai Jai Jai Bajrang Bali and List of Jai Jai Jai Bajrang Bali episodes. The whole series is an absolute mess and poorly sourced. The Banner talk 03:38, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for helping me with my article ต้องการความช่วยเหลือครับ

From the article 'Green mango with Thai Sweet fish sauce' that you edited, I really hope that someone could review and approve it. คือarticleที่ผมสร้างนี้ผมจำเป็นต้องให้มันผ่านครับ เป็นส่วนหนึ่งของคะแนนในโปรเจ็คครับ ซึ่งผมเคยsubmitผ่านsandboxแล้วไม่มีคนตรวจซักที มีคนที่เคยตรวจแต่ก็มาคอมเม้นเฉยๆแล้วเขาก็ไม่ตรวจให้ผมเลย แล้วก็ใกล้วันส่งแล้ว ผมต้องการความช่วยเหลือจริงๆครับ ถ้าบทความผมไม่มีส่วนไหนที่จำเป็นต้องแก้ไขมาก ผมจะดีใจมากถ้าคุณช่วยรีวิวแล้วอนุมัติให้ผ่านครับ รบกวนด้วยนะครับ ขอบคุณล่วงหน้าครับReso7373 (talk) 13:31, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

ตอนนี้จากที่คุณ Reso7373 สร้างบทความใหม่ไว้ที่ Green mango with Thai sweet fish sauce ก็จะถือว่าเป็นการสร้างบทความใหม่โดยตรง โดยไม่ผ่านกระบวนการ AfC ครับ ถือว่าเป็นบทความแล้วเรียบร้อยและไม่ต้องรอการรีวิวอีกครับ (แต่ editor ท่านอื่นก็อาจจะทำการแก้ไขเพิ่มเติม ตามกระบวนการปกติ)
ยังไงผมขอถามข้อมูลเพิ่มเติมเกี่ยวกับตัวโปรเจกต์หน่อยได้ไหมครับ ที่ผ่านมาเห็นคร่าว ๆ เหมือนจะเป็นวิชาเรียนที่พระจอมฯ บางมดใช่หรือเปล่าครับ พอดีอยากจะติดต่อกับอาจารย์ผู้สอน จะได้ประสานงานรองรับการเรียนการสอนให้ดีขึ้น เพราะทางวิกิพีเดียเองก็มีโครงการสำหรับพัฒนาความร่วมมือเกี่ยวกับการใช้วิกิพีเดียในสถาบันการศึกษาโดยตรง รบกวนฝากเรียนให้อาจารย์ช่วยติดต่อกลับโดยโพสต์ที่หน้านี้ หรือติดต่อทางอีเมลได้ที่ ลิงก์นี้ นะครับ ขอบคุณครับ --Paul_012 (talk) 13:49, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Paul_012 คือผมสงสัยเพราะว่าในหน้าบทความยังมีขึ้นว่า This page is a new unreviewed article. This template should be removed once the page has been reviewed by someone other than its creator; if necessary the page should be appropriately tagged for cleanup. อยู่ครับ ซึ่งทำให้ผมกังวลว่าอาจจะโดนลบได้ครับ พอจะมีทางแก้ไขในส่วนนี้ไหมครับ โดยWikipedia projectนี้เป็นส่วนหนึ่งในวิชาLNG107ของเทคโนฯบางมดครับ ภาควิชาที่ผมเรียนเป็นหลักสูตรอินเตอร์ครับเลยไม่แน่ใจว้าภาคปกติจะเรียนลักษณะนี้หรือเปล่า โดยคอร์สนี้จะเน้นไปที่การเขียนEssayเป็นหลักครับ อาจารย์ที่สอนวิชาLNGนี้จะสังกัดอยู่ในศิลป์ศาสตร์ (SOLA) ซึ่งกำหนดและควบคุมทั้งหลักสูตรและข้อสอบครับ Reso7373 (talk) 14:34, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
ขอบคุณสำหรับข้อมูลนะครับ ในส่วนแท็ก new unreviewed article ผมดูให้แล้ว ยังไงถ้าสะดวกก็ฝากแจ้งอาจารย์เรื่องที่จะรบกวนให้ติดต่อมาด้วยนะครับ ขอบคุณครับ --Paul_012 (talk) 15:10, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Mekong expedition of 1866–1868

Hi mate! Just wanted to let you know that this is the way (1866–1868) i created the article. Someone moved it to Mekong expedition of 1866–68. So you actually moved it back to its original state. Hope this is ok. All the Best Wikirictor (talk) 14:20, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

I've seen the history, but thanks anyway. The relevant discussion is here. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:38, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
OK - Thanks - i will check this out asap :) ATB Wikirictor (talk) 14:49, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

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Crown Prince of Thailand

This article must deleted. Ramsjoti are taking for crown prince next year (throne for vajiralongkorn, Rama X). now he is prince only. Akuindo (talk) 14:10, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Thai name

Hy Paul.. can you help me to put lang-th on Thanyasuda Wongya. Thanks --Stvbastian (talk) 12:30, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Done. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:40, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you --Stvbastian (talk) 14:07, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

cfd process

it might, just be better, if you have a very larger lot you are trying to put up, is to start part of the cfd discussion while putting the rest up, as clicking on the discussion link and finding nothing while you trawl through the long list might, just might put some people out slightly :) - cheers JarrahTree 07:16, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Sorry. The discussion is already up. I made a mistake when tagging the page, now fixed. Thanks for the heads-up. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Disambiguation redirects

Hi! When you change the target of a redirect with "(disambiguation)" in the title, the new target should also be a disambiguation page. If there is no dab page that it can be redirected to, then the page should be deleted. (I use WP:G6.) The edit that brought me here was this one, when you redirected Indochina (disambiguation) to Indochina; your edit summary said, Redirecting to Indochina, which now serves as a WP:CONCEPTDAB.

I applaud your efforts to turn a CONCEPTDAB into a real article (nice job!); just don't forget those leftover dab-only redirects. Happy New Year! — Gorthian (talk) 05:29, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

I expanded the scope of this AfD to include List of administrative subdivisions of Africa by fertility rate; you !voted before I did that and I just wanted to give you notice. Jytdog (talk) 19:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

copy-paste moves

I'm not sure what problem you're trying to fix, but a copy-paste move is probably not the answer. Check with Anthony Appleyard, who did the recent history merge necessitated by the last improper move, and maybe come up with a better plan. Dicklyon (talk) 06:56, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi. If your concerns are only regarding copy-paste, then there's no reason to revert the move of Kamphaeng Phet Station to Kamphaeng Phet MRT Station, which was done in order to revert the cut-and-paste move from 2 December 2013, as stated in the edit summary. My copy-paste of the talk page was done to bring the discussion to the article's location. (I understand that we're generally less serious about talk page histories, since archives are copy-pasted everyday.) --Paul_012 (talk) 07:01, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Please don't make drastic changes like this unilaterally. Discuss on the talk page first, not afterwards. Bradv 16:06, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
And you moved it again. Please stop this. There are two problems: You need consensus, and you need to know what you're doing. You have neither. Bradv 17:10, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I know perfectly well what I'm doing, thanks. I've explained on the talk page in case you're interested. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
In the past few hours you have performed a copy&paste move, which is not allowed, and you have moved an article without its talk page. Neither of those demonstrate a clear awareness of what proper page moves entail. Furthermore, you have ignored the consensus of the previous discussion, and have twice decided to move the page and declare on the talk page afterwards. You are also aware that this was against policy, since you quoted IAR.
Just to be clear, I would probably have supported this move if you had declared what you wanted to do first, and asked for help getting it done correctly. Now the only way that this will get accomplished is if you open another requested move discussion. Bradv 17:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
It's quite apparent from the previous discussion that not enough people cared about the article to form a consensus; that's why I believed it was actually uncontroversial and elected to IAR in order to actually get something done. Seeing as that isn't the case, though, I'll stop wasting time on the article as I said. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:24, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Srsly?

Read WP:CHECKUSER. Those were CheckUser blocks. Not blocks for suspected sockpuppetry placed by a CheckUser, but CheckUser blocks based on compelling technical evidence of abuse fo multiple accounts. Guy (Help!) 22:53, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes, srsly. I'm rather unfamiliar with the intricacies of the blocking policy, so thanks for pointing that out. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:03, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
As a side note, though, JzG, I'm sure that as an admin you're familiar with all the rules, but please consider that the designated venue for all types of discussion can be rather obscure to the average editor. It'd be nice to kindly point the way (as you've done by providing the link above) without the use of such section headers which could be taken as rather patronising. Thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:18, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Did you look at the block log entries or Talk pages? Special:Contributions/Wassanee shows the block log entry which notes {{checkuserblock-account}} and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Wassanee references checkuser. Of course, if you had asked Bbb23 instead of reporting tot he drama board, you'd have got a different result. Guy (Help!) 23:53, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
I did. Point is, I wasn't aware that checkuser blocks are special. I know now, so thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 00:31, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Okey-dokey. All good, then. Guy (Help!) 01:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

The page that I created

Dear, Paul I created that page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutthapon_Rakkhatham, I agree with that if it isn't enough to establish notability for Nutthapon, but I also created the page like that on Thai wiki https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutthapon_Rakkhatham but deleted it already, However the URLs (th version and en version of wiki/Nutthapon_Rakkhatham)of them still appear on network and although nothing inside, could you help me to delete all of it including the url cause they still appearing when I search my name with the google search on the top rank, thank you. Iturkr (talk) 07:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Iturkr, For the Thai version, which has already been removed, you can send Google a removal request of the result at https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/removals . The English Wikipedia page will have to undergo discussion for at least a week before it is decided to be deleted or kept; if it is deleted you can submit the request afterwards. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:01, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Prasuton Manorah (TV series) AfD

Hello, Paul 012, you might be interested with the following AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prasuton Manorah (TV series) (2nd nomination). Feel free to comment "Delete" or "Keep" there. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 02:54, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Mali/Thailand

Regarding the speedy deletion, I agree it was borderline, but seemed to me like the valid start of an article. Really appreciate that you took the time to add some content.

Regards, decltype (talk) 11:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the message. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:24, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Nudging merger proposal

If you're still of a mind to merge Zomia (region) with Southeast Asian Massif, I think you can go ahead. They've been tagged for six months without objection. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:58, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I've taken another look, and I still don't really feel familiar enough with the topic to perform the merger myself—yet. I won't mind if you remove the tags. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:44, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Charoen Krung Road

On 8 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Charoen Krung Road, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Charoen Krung Road was built because foreign consuls complained of not having a road for their carriages in Bangkok? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charoen Krung Road. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Charoen Krung Road), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Assessment importance Luang Pu Sodh Candasaro

Hello Paul 012, in your dummy edit here you have indicated your doubt about how important this subject is. It may be hard to find consensus as to what or who someone ought to know about. But if notability is any indication, there is hardly any Thai person who does not know Luang Pu Sodh. He is well-featured in folk religion, and the temple he revived, Wat Paknam Bhasicharoen, is a temple that has in the last thirty years known at least two Supreme Sangha Council members. If you search his name in Thai (หลวงพ่อสด) in a news archive such as the Matichon E-library, you will find loads of articles about him, his life, the meditation he taught and the amulets he made. In the West he may be less well known, but I am uncertain whether we can use only the West as a standard.--S Khemadhammo (talk) 23:49, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for providing your views. Personally, I've lived in Thailand my whole life and only first heard of Luang Pu Sodh here on Wikipedia. While I wouldn't consider myself representative of the entire population, I do think of him as a figure well known to mostly a specific group of followers. Now there's of course no doubt of his notability, but all subjects of Wikipedia articles (whether Low- or Top-importance) must be notable anyway. Since the scope of WikiProject Thailand covers everything Thailand-related, assessments should ask, "How relevant is the subject to the reader's understanding of Thailand as a whole?" Most of the biographies currently in Category:High-importance Thailand articles I've assessed as such for the amount of coverage in major reference works on general Thai history. Hence most are kings and prime ministers. Buddhist monks are of course important figures in society, but they usually take a secondary position in the general discourse on Thailand.
You might want to take a look at the assessments I proposed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand#Mass importance assessment. A personal rule of thumb I used for assessing High-importance lies along the lines of, "Would a Thai student completing primary school be expected to know about the subject?" I answered no for Luang Pu Sodh, hence the Mid-importance assessment. Also, there's sort of a scheme of descending relative relevance here, where central core concept articles are Top-importance, and more specific aspects placed lower down the hierarchy. E.g., Religion in Thailand is assessed as Top-importance and Buddhism in Thailand as High. So most of the specific aspects of Thai Buddhism are Mid-importance, while the large majority of individual Buddhist temples and monks are assessed as Low. This doesn't mean the lower-assessed articles are less notable, just that they're a lesser priority with respect to the entire project's scope. Of course, were "Thai Buddhism" the scope of the WikiProject, Luang Pu Sodh would easily be High-importance. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:34, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Alright, you have made some good points here. I have no doubt your assessment system is through and valid. Still, looking at the list of high-importance articles, I am uncertain as to the assessment discussed here. There has, in the past years, been a lot of coverage with regard to Somdet Chuang and Wat Phra Dhammakaya, both making front page headlines consistently for months on end. And both of them originate from the tradition of Wat Paknam Bhasicharoen and Luang Pu Sodh Candasaro. However, Luang Pu Sodh comes from a time when there was little news coverage, and historical sources may not have given much attention to the Wat Paknam tradition. Perhaps this is because Wat Paknam was strongly associated with Phibul Songkhram, who has often been described as anti-royalist, and Thai history has always been written by royalist writers.--S Khemadhammo (talk) 09:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Regarding the history aspect, it can be seen as unfortunate that Wikipedia in general tends towards Recentism, but it's also true that readers are more often looking for information about contemporary than historical topics. As the assessment system's goal is to prioritise and provide focus on what readers will be looking for, I think it's natural that this would be reflected in the assessments. So though Wat Phra Dhammakaya is descended from Wat Paknam, it's Dhammakaya that's been the focus of interest for the past few decades. Actually in my proposed list I've listed both for Mid-importance, though looking at it again Dhammakaya could actually be High, due to the amount of interest it's generating. There's always room for interpretation though. I'm not sure if the bot operator has started working on the list yet, but each page's assessment can always adjusted once they're done. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Paul 012, please ping me as I have many pages on my watch list. I think I have made all the points that could be made, and you have made good points in defending a thorough assessment. I will self-revert the assessment, and take a good look at the the differences of the Wikiprojects Thailand and Buddhism again, to come up with proper assessment for the articles regarding the Wat Paknam tradition.
Another thing: would you care to take a good look at the Wat Phra Dhammakaya article some time? The article has not been commented on much since the last five-six months or so, and I would appreciate some input. Since you can read Thai sources, I'd appreciate your reflection on the article. I have noticed that an increasing number of journalists and independent scholars are referring to the article (some of them have also mentioned it to me), so it may be necessary to try to raise the quality of the article from its current Start level.--S Khemadhammo (talk) 12:52, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

respond

It is unintentional, I will try to solve the problems, thanks.--Jobas (talk) 19:11, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Bangkok - edits

Hi Paul 012, I apologize for the delayed response.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bangkok&diff=next&oldid=772841029
(Sorry, but what's the source for the changed figures? Also, sea temperature seems barely relevant since Bangkok has less than 5 km of coastline.)
Data for sea temperature is actually for Samut prakan. (I thought it might be useful for visitors)
Daily mean temperature I've recalculated because numbers are wrong: Jan (32.5+22.6)/2=27.55 (not 27.0), Feb (33.3+24.4)/2 = 28.85 (not 28.3) etc.
If you want to update Climate table replace Daily mean figures with these
|Jan mean C = 27.6
|Feb mean C = 28.9
|Mar mean C = 30.1
|Apr mean C = 31.2
|May mean C = 30.4
|Jun mean C = 29.9
|Jul mean C = 29.5
|Aug mean C = 29.2
|Sep mean C = 28.9
|Oct mean C = 28.7
|Nov mean C = 28.2
|Dec mean C = 26.9
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bangkok&diff=next&oldid=772781627
(→‎External links: Restored link to bangkoktourist.com - is a BMA official site, more relevant than the TAT website which isn't about Bangkok.)
You're right. It appeared to me that bangkoktourist.com is not official web site of Bangkok, and, when switched to english, parts of site were not translated. That's why I've tried to find better (official) source.
D.Nino (talk) 10:29, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

From what I understand, the mean temperatures are supposed to be calculated from the hourly temperatures of every day in the month. It's unrelated to the average between the maximum and minimum, which would technically be the mid-range, and isn't usually reported. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:51, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Yap, sorry again, and you're right (again). I was just revising my comment to remove "Daily mean" part of a comment, but you were faster D.Nino (talk) 10:55, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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That only applies when the redirect is synonymous with the target article. It isn't here. - I think you're wrong. WP:R#PLA unequivocally does not state this. Can you provide a link to something that confirms your claim? Please reply here, if you don't mind. Thanks. 210.195.201.244 (talk) 03:52, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Well, the Death of Wichian Klanprasert article was probably a borderline case. It could be seen as a minor subtopic, as in the density of water example under R#PLA. For comparison, the redirect previously pointed to Chalerm Yoovidhya, and it would have been inappropriate in that case to include Vorayuth's name in bold, since he was only mentioned in the section discussing the family. You're right that WP:MOSTEXT does explicitly allow bold text for titles of subtopic redirects; I stand corrected. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:41, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

DEPRODDING of Phadaeng Nang Ai

Hi you recently refused the PROD on the above article with the comment that it is a notable folk tale but without adding any sources to prove its notability. The only source that is on the article is non clickable and in Thai. When machine translated the source gives this as information. "Wattana Elephant Treatment, (1996). Celebration of the 50th Anniversary of Ban Chiang in the 50th Anniversary of His Majesty's Accession to the Throne, June 14-16, 1996" it is impossible to identify the source and verify its reliability a search for วัฒนา ช้างรักษา,(1996) turns up nothing. When removing the PROD tags it is highly recommended to improve the article to address the concern as per WP:DEPROD. Do you have any sources to back up the statement that it is a "notable folk tale"? Domdeparis (talk) 12:24, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Have you tried re-googling the title using the new spelling? If so, you'd find a book translation of the tale published by Bucknell University Press with several reviews accessible on JSTOR. The current source is a Thai book, which is acceptable per WP:NONENG. You can find its entry in the UCTAL library catalogue here. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:17, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
With the new spelling I get enough hits thanks. Of course the Thai reference is valid but what i was pointing out was that 1 reference is not enough to prove notability regardless of the language especially when there are no links to anything! But I can see with the correct spelling there are film versions and several translations so it is obviously notable IMHO. Thanks for the reply Domdeparis (talk) 15:34, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

You spotted :-)

As a result of removing links like that I now only have to scan about three dozen links to see if any new ones have been added to mainspace, rather than well over two hundred, which is where we were before. Guy (Help!) 06:52, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Bangkok

I left a note on Talk:Bangkok when I tagged the article. howcheng {chat} 06:21, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Oops. Thanks. Not sure how I missed it the first time. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:58, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Thai Kites

I added more citations already, but the book and the Wikipedia draft called 'Kite flying in Thailand' that you mentioned about, I didn't get any information from these things. I also edited the wrong spelling word so if you have time you can check it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chorchinn (talkcontribs) 06:26, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Chorchinn, sorry for the confusion about the draft; that was my mistake. I've removed the copypaste tag, but the text is still a close paraphrasing of the source. It's better to express the whole article in your own words; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing for details. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:14, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Thai Kites

Thank you for your advice and I've already improved it to be my own language. I rewrite it again, but still remain the whole information that I want to post. If you have time, please check it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chorchinn (talkcontribs) 11:16, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

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