User talk:Peveto

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Tyler, Texas

I noticed you working on the page for Tyler, Texas, that's some nice work you're doing. I reinstated the sister cities section, and added a proper link to the sister cities home page as a proper source. Thanks! Snowfire51 (talk) 19:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Please don't put purely commercial links on articles the way you did to East Texas. Promotional sections and commercial links are not appropriate. Pharmboy (talk) 20:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Tip

When you're writing or adding to an article, make sure everything you're contributing is encyclopedic in nature, and writting from a neutral perspective. Also, you should probably read WP:EL to see what external links are used on wikipedia, so as not to cross the line into WP:SPAM or other advertising. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll do everything I can to help. Thanks! Snowfire51 (talk) 20:38, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:EL

When you add content, there's no need to add an external link for every business as per WP:EL. If something is notable enough for a link, it should have it's own wikipedia entry, and a link will be on that page. External links should only be used to link to content that directly has information about the subject, for example, an article on Tyler, Texas, doesn't need to contain external links to hospitals. That's advertising, in a way, which isn't allowed on wikipedia.

As for the Sister Cities program, if you'll read the link I attached, it'll explain. More information is available at Sister cities. Thanks! Snowfire51 (talk) 05:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Tyler, Texas

I'll try again to explain. Although I really do appreciate all of the edits you've been making to Tyler, Texas, contributions to wikipedia must be relevant, properly referenced, and written in an encyclopedic tone.

Again, please read WP:EL for what wikipedia will post an external link to, and what shouldn't be linked. Linking to places and businesses in the area, as you did with this edit [1] isn't what wikipedia is for. In addition, your edit summary that you're adding the website for tourists shouldn't be applicable, because wikipedia isn't a tourism guide. Anything notable enough will have it's own wikipedia link, and anyone searching for more information can find it there. Don't link to every website of a business, hospital, or local attraction. That's considered advertising.

In addition, much of the material you provided on Tyler culture is lifted directly from other wikipedia pages. There's no reason to do that, if it's a significant link, you can just link directly to that page on the Tyler one.

In short, wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not just a tourism guide. Please read up on the five pillars of wikipedia, so you'll understand what we're all doing here. I appreciate the concern you've showed for this page, I hope you'll continue here at wikipedia. Thanks! Snowfire51 (talk) 07:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

More Tyler

In response to your comment [2] left on my page, please understand I'm not trying to make your wikipedia experience difficult or offensive. I've told you several times that you're doing a good job of adding content, but that content must meet wikipedia guidelines.

This edit [3], for example, is all text taken directly from the Culture of the Southern United States article. Not only is it not properly referenced, it's also just copied from a larger article. There's no need to do that. If there's an article or other reference you can refer to that talks about Tyler's culture or cuisine directly, feel free to use that in building the article on Tyler.

The wikipedia article for Tyler is not an article for tourism, or information for out-of-town visitors, or anything of the sort. Please read WP:EL to see what kind of external links wikipedia allows. Again, there's no reason to add links for every single organization, event, and business in town.

I added three proper references to the article, dealing with big events in the Tyler area. These can show you the kinds of encyclopedic events and information wikipedia is here for. All three events are notable enough to have their own wikipedia pages, with references. Compare this to Tiger Creek Wildlife Refuge, which does not. Brian Werner does, but Tiger Creek does not. There's no reason to add a direct WP:EL to the page for Tiger Creek.

Again, I'm not trying to pick on you, and I don't want to give that impression. I applaud what you're doing, I'm just trying to help you understand what wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a collection of links or a tourist info site. If you have any questions, feel free to leave a comment on my talk page, as you did earlier. That's the best way for wikipedia editors to discuss matters. Thanks! Snowfire51 (talk) 18:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)