User talk:Pga1965

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Re:help needed on my first article

Hi- it's looking good, nice job so far! I'll warn you that articles on reality show contestants are often challenged unless the contestant has achieved some fame outside of th show (so, Talbot has released albums for instance, but the article was nominated for deletion before that) but this one's looking good so far- I guess your target now is just to keep expanding it, and remember to keep referencing! I'll make a few fixes for you and generally try to make it a little prettier. J Milburn (talk) 22:28, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I've removed the reference to Zimbio, as I am not certain it is reliable. However, it shouldn't be a problem, as all the information is in the lengthy Washington Post article anyway. If you manage to expand the article a good bit more in the next few days, you could consider nominating it to appear on the Did you know? section of the main page- I'd be happy to help out, if you like! J Milburn (talk) 22:49, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Where's the video? Sometimes video links are permissable, but we cannot link to copyright violations. J Milburn (talk) 23:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Kaitlyn Maher's Electronic Press Kit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrPshDKV-Wc

Pga1965 (talk) 12:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that's an official upload, so a link to the video (or even the channel) is fine. I will take another look over the article when I get a few minutes- should find some time later today :) J Milburn (talk) 12:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

thanks

Pga1965 (talk) 12:26, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

btw I have requested of douglas of the offical forum permission to get a still photo for the infobox, still waiting on an answer. I know its a smallish article but im trying to get it as reliable as possible. it might need some categories later. there is talk her album is to be out by the end of the year and doing another Disney movie(on-screen this time) next year(still cant find any reliable sources for either of these yet).

Pga1965 (talk) 12:31, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I was planning on requesting a photo later today. This is something I do a lot of work with- please note that permission for Wikipedia to use the image is not enough. Instead, you need the copyright holder (normally the photographer, but her agents/representatives will own the rights to any publicity shots) to explicitly state that they are happy for the image to be released under a free license- normally, we recommend Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0. There are then additional steps you must follow- if you do get a reply and he is willing to release an image under a free license, contact me again, and I'll go through the remaining steps. J Milburn (talk) 12:54, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

reply from forum:

"Paul: I am aware of the complexity of copyright and the creative commons licensing, though it can be very confusing at times. I have read the Common Attribution Share Alike license and agree to release that photo under that license"

Pga1965 (talk) 08:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Stunning. He took the photograph, I take it? If so, upload the file as normal (if you're not red-hot on it, I can do that for you) and add the template {{OTRS pending}} to the top of the image page. Then, forward the email, along with a link to where the image has been uploaded, to permission-en@wikimedia.org. Myself or someone else will do the rest :) J Milburn (talk) 18:37, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Providing he was the author of the photograph, yes, that is sufficient. Please forward the conversation in an email as explained before, and upload the picture with the {{OTRS pending}} template. Are you ok with uploading images? If not, attach the photo to the email you create (or link to it online) and send the email to photosubmission@wikimedia.org (note that this is a different address from before) and let me know, then I can upload it for you :) J Milburn (talk) 14:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

I've uploaded the photo and sent you the standard template reply. Nicely done- requesting high-quality pictures is something that a lot of Wikipedians aren't willing to try, and something that a lot of others spend a lot of their time doing. It's certainly helped your draft :) J Milburn (talk) 22:31, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

I've fixed the table for you- the main problem was the fact you missed |} from the bottom. It took me ages to get to grips with tables, and I'm still not great. It may be best to try to move the references down to the main article body- the lead should be a summary of what is said elsewhere in the article. It's looking like it's coming along nicely. J Milburn (talk) 22:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

If you think there's enough content to go in those sections, they look great. It's all dependent on how much there is out there, in terms of reliable sources. J Milburn (talk) 23:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

The Christmas Album fix looks fine- I made a small edit, but nothing to shout about! Where are you getting that info from? It would be nice if a source could be added. I'm happy to format it as appropriate if need be. J Milburn (talk) 23:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate I've really been neglecting Talbot recently- I've been waiting for a flurry of newspaper sources mentioning the release, but they just haven't been forthcoming. I will create the article, but, for now, it's just going to be a stub. J Milburn (talk) 23:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Album notes are citable- you could use {{Cite album-notes}} if you like. J Milburn (talk) 13:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

No, doesn't look like much there is useful- we need newspaper articles, not Facebook and YouTube links! Some of it may be useful for external links, some of it may be useful as a self published source, but they should really be avoided. I doubt that, now we have an image, we're going to be able to get much from representatives of the subject. J Milburn (talk) 21:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

IMDB is not usually considered a reliable source, but it is often considered a useful external link. As you said, we can't really start including information like album news until we have a decent source saying it- the official site isn't a terrible source, but newspapers are far better. J Milburn (talk) 23:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

No- beyond fixing vandalism or removing serious BLP violations, it would not be approproiate for her parents to edit the article. They are, of course, welcome to comment on the article talk page. J Milburn (talk) 11:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Connie Talbot cover song entries

The entries you've been adding to "Covers" sections provide too much detail about Connie Talbot that is not specific to the given song. Describing release details about the album is not necessary on the song article, for example. The cover section includes a link to the album, and if someone is interested in the album they can click to open that article. Please reduce the details. Thanks. — John Cardinal (talk) 04:38, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

sorry I don't see how making a live link to the particular album of multiple albums is to much info. I was just reformating info that already showed release info!

It's way too much and is not relevent to the song. Here is one example :In the ""Imagine article, your edit changed this:

• In 2007, Connie Talbot covered the song on Over The Rainbow.

to this:

• On 26th November 2007 the track was released by British child singer Connie Talbot (who was discovered on the British television talent show Britain's Got Talent), on her debut album, Over The Rainbow. This album was re-released on the 16th June 2008 (with the Christmas tracks replaced).

How Talbot was discovered is not relevant to "Imagine". When the album was re-released is not relevant. A link to the performer and to the album on which the cover appears is enough for a simple cover. As I said above, if the reader wants more information about her or about her album, they can click the link. — John Cardinal (talk) 13:53, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Re:How to submit an article

Hey- you can submit an article by simply clicking the "move" tab and moving it to Kaitlyn Maher. Before you do that, I'll give the article a quick run-through and see if there's anything I can improve, ok? Hopefully I'll be able to make some tweaks to the article, meaning it can be submitted for did you know?, which would be great. J Milburn (talk) 13:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

The article's now eligible for DYK, and it's looking good to move into the mainspace. Let me know when you do- I'll add some categories and submit it. Nice work. J Milburn (talk) 13:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

I've submitted the article for DYK. J Milburn (talk) 13:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Re:Kaitlyn Maher

I'd say the article was long enough to not be considered a stub- I have removed the templates. As for protecting the article, that can be done by administrators- however, articles cannot be protected just because someone keeps changing something you don't like. It will normally only be protected from new and anonymous users if it is the target of frequent vandalism. J Milburn (talk) 11:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I suppose that's both the beauty and the curse of a wiki- people will make changes to your articles. If there are any changes you are concerned about, then change the article again, or contact the user who made the changes. These changes look fine- clearing out unsourced information, expanding the URLs, expanding the history section, and so on. Thanks to those changes, the article is on a DYK queue, and should hopefully be appearing on the main page in the next few hours. J Milburn (talk) 11:01, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Kaitlyn Maher

On December 16, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kaitlyn Maher, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 19:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Re:Connie talbot : Holiday magic DVD

Sadly, a forum posting really cannot be considered a reliable source. The Holiday Magic article still very short- I do intend to have a trawl through sources before the end of the Christmas period to see if it can be expanded at all. J Milburn (talk) 11:55, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, either way, a release from the company is often not going to be considered an acceptable source for that kind of information. An post on the website or a press release may be better. However, surely, there will be some sources not tied to Talbot reporting on it? J Milburn (talk) 22:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Re:Connie Talbot

Unless a reliable source mentions that as her name, I don't think it's particularly important. J Milburn (talk) 14:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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