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AfD = expired PROD?

Hi, doesn't this discussion at AfD count as being effectively an expired PROD? The only objector withdrew because, well, they seemed to be rather confused. - Sitush (talk) 13:03, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me. As the closing administrator, I look at the consensus with the arguments presented. Despite being relisted twice, there was no consensus to delete. An AfD is not a PROD. If there is no consensus to delete, the article is not deleted. Feel free to either PROD it yourself, or open a new AfD. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:38, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

I see, thanks. Some admins have treated these things as expired PRODs in the past, especially if there are no sources as here. I wasn't aware that one could PROD something that had already been at AfD - food for thought! - Sitush (talk) 22:46, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

LassoLab Deletion

I find it incredible that you have deleted the page for a software product I use daily and have been using professionally for several years. LassoLab and Lasso Studio for Eclipse exist and have a user base. It does nobody any service to have them deleted from Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.192.85 (talk) 04:12, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for contacting me. The fact that it exists, that it has a user base (and that you personally use it) does not make it notable. The consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LassoLab was that there are no reliable, independent sources establishing the notability of this software. No one said that it does not exist. No one said that it does not have users. What the contributors to the discussion said was that there were no suitable sources to show the notability of the software as defined here. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, with rules for inclusion - "it does nobody any service to have them deleted from Wikipedia" does not negate this.

If you can find some reliable and independent sources that show that the software meets the notability criteria, we can discuss how the article could be recreated. Without such sources, no further discussion is worthwhile, as that would be the only way in which an article could be recreated. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:44, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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EdwardsBot (talk) 08:23, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

ah cama sotz page

hi,

would want to contribute to this page, i like this music very much & think it's appropriate to have a page on him, now there is one of his latest side-project Wai pi Wai but not on him, he's very famous in Germany & Belgium (in the Industrial/EBM/Electro scene)and should have his own page, he is almost as important as The Klinik or Front 242 in our culture. I can fill at least 2 pages of txt on him...greetings,<email redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.64.166.155 (talk) 13:45, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me. I have removed your email address - this is a very public forum, and as I will only communicate through this page, there is no need for a private address to be visible!

In May, the Ah Cama-Sotz article was deleted following a discussion here, as there was a consensus that he did not meet the notability criteria for inclusion.

Although he may be very famous in Germany and Belgium, Wikipedia requires reliable sources that are independent to demonstrate that he meets the notability criteria. If you could provide such sources (which do not need to be in English), then we could discuss the creation of an article about him.

Incidentally, of the articles you mentioned above, only Front 242 appear to be notable - neither Wai pi wai nor Klinik would seem to meet the notability criteria here or here.

Regards, PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 01:39, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

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