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January 2023[edit]

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Thank you Diannaa for correcting the page. Well, I have copied text, which I have written myself and for which I am "personally" responsible. But this fact is not visible for the other people or authomatic detection, indeed. I will try to spend some more time for Wikipedia in the future. Thank you for your help PikoBelo (talk) 18:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi again, apparently you are connected to the journal, perhaps even paid for your work. Please disclose your COI on the article talk paage and on your user page. Please read WP:COI and WP:UPE. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 16:03, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The article Communications in Development and Assembling of Textile Products has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG.

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Thank you Randykitty for checking carefully.
Criteria C1: "The journal is considered by reliable sources to be influential in its subject area." - Since 2020 the leading researchers in the area of Clothing Technology are members of the board and prefer to publish in this journal, instead of fully commercially organized journals of MPDI. The remaining related journals are specialized more in "textiles and composites", or if have wording "clothing", then they cover more design or marketing issues, but not the engineering development of textile products. The leading conference in this area "14th joint int. conf. Clotech" https://clotech.eu/ selected as well the journal for both 2020 and 2022 issues for publication of selected papers by the editorial boards. In this meaning CDATP is considered by the community as reliable source.
"Criterion 2: The journal is frequently cited by other reliable sources."
Even in the short period of time several papers are cittd by other important sources:
https://scholar.google.de/scholar?cites=9459615988324297856&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=de -> has 5 citations based on google
This is cited 15 times (mdpi, IEEE)
https://scholar.google.de/scholar?cites=8656689246138542929&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=de
This is cited 3 times (mdpi, springer)
https://scholar.google.de/scholar?cites=421901899322548859&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=de
Which databases are "selective" ? PikoBelo (talk) 13:16, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sorry, but you misinterpret NJournals. Having a board with well-known researchers is a plus, but [[WP:N|notaability] is not inherited. Even a new journal like this one may be expected to collect some citations, that's nothing out of the ordinary and completely trivial. Databases like GScholar and such try to be all-inclusive and are therefore not selective. Examples of selective databases are the Clarivate citation indexes (except ESCI) and Scopus. Hope this clarifies. --Randykitty (talk) 15:30, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the clarification. But I do not completely agree, this make the live very simple - and you can refer all journals listed in Scopus. This journal covers all the criteria for indexing by WoS and Scopus and applications for both are in evaluation, but it takes approx. half year to get decision. It is seldom to have diamond open access journal - where neither authors, nor readers pay... But this is not notable. Clarivate and Scopus are commercial services and are manipulable or at least "controllable", as the publisher MDPI demonstrates constantly. It is not ordinary and trivial "to collect some citation" in a very narrow area for this short time, the most all other journals need 2-3 times more years for similar result. I am following/assisting/editing several journals indexed in Scopus and WoS, the results depends as well on the money inserted in marketing/social media from the larger publishers. I was expecting that administrators in wikipedia would at least recognize the difference - it is journal managed completely without comercial support or interest (diamond open access), it is not predatory journals, and it has become reliable resource in short time. But I fully understand that for you is not easy to recognize the difference at the current time, so if nothing notable is there you can delete the record, in one year the index in the selective databases will be available. PikoBelo (talk) 16:13, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Randykitty (talk) 05:40, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]