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Hullo!

What a beautiful article, thank you. Thanks for the Royal Collection templatey thing, there is so much work to be done on expanding our coverage of the collection. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 13:04, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1990s

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Salvator Mundi

Hello,
Please help me understand why this edit was erased?

Salvator Mundi (Leonardo) (cur | prev) 22:32, 9 May 2015‎ Primaler (talk | contribs)‎ . . (5,057 bytes) (-631)‎ . . (no original research WP:OR) (undo | thank)

The original research is from a book by Leonardo.
This information was included within the edit.
Leonardo's book, including a link to the corresponding Wikipedia article was added.
In addition to the chapter number and a synopsis rather than quote.
Please help me understand what failed in this straightforward description of Leonardo's text?
Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leochap (talk • contribs) 19:10, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

@Leochap. Actually, nothing failed. You made your point clear enough. It was, however, exactly that — your point. The relevance of the quote to the question of the painting's authorship is very tenuous at best. I could, in fact, argue to the contrary, but I wont, because it is not my opinion that matters. What matters is that everything we write here, be that facts or ideas, must be based on reliable authoritative published sources. Especially when the murky business of connoisseurship is concerned.

If the contradiction you see here was mentioned in a peer-reviewed paper / book by an actual art historian or discussed in a national newspaper by a prominent art critic, it would have been entirely appropriate to discuss it in the article.

As it stood, without proper references, the whole section was a baseless speculation and had no place in an encyclopedia (which this is; there are several delightful wiki-based projects that welcome original research, if that is your thing, maybe you should go and try your hand there).

Otherwise, please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:No original research. If you still think I've wronged you, please contact the admins, although I'm pretty sure they'll tell you all the same things, and probably not in as many words.

Good luck!

Primaler (talk) 20:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Graphs

Hi, I am very impressed with the graphs you have created on your user page! Great ideas! I recently did a talk about Graphs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7DTn9jHnI0 and also there is a demo of Lyra - a graph editor. You might want to consider moving that huge table into another page/subpage as CSV data, and use a simple Lua module to convert it into both the table and the source for the graph. See the Graphs demo page (2nd example with the map) on how to do that. Thanks, and let me know if you run into any problems. --Yurik (talk) 22:28, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

P.S. I started writing a graphs guide, using paintings page as an example. It will need a bit more work to become a true guide though :) --Yurik (talk) 01:14, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

@Yurik: I'm glad to hear you like the graphs! I'm actually very excited about this extension, hopefully, it catches on and more instruments of this sort come in its wake. In order to live long and prosper, Wikipedia can not be allowed to fossilize, and yet looking at the articles you'd never guess it's not 2005.

I'll try and assist you with the guide, Vega's docs certainly make for a steep learning curve.

Thanks for the Lua tip, I've been looking at things like TableData, but none seem to be installed on wikipedia. Another option is uploading a csv file to commons, but I'd rather keep both the code and the data here for now. Primaler (talk) 10:09, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

@Primaler:, I am considering further work on JsonConfig ext to support CSV, JSON, and YAML blob storage - might work well for us. On Vega note, please take a look at some of the new tools developed by the Vega team - especially Lyra and Polystar - they both generate Vega graphs, and could be amazing at getting things done quickly. They are still in development, but could prove to be revolutionary in Graphing space. --Yurik (talk) 12:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

The image issue has been fixed. --Yurik (talk) 09:35, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Your graph has just received a new life! Check it out ;) --Yurik (talk) 03:08, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

P.S. I have made a few minor improvements to your subway graph as well. --Yurik (talk) 04:14, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Useless categories

It was not necessary - Category:New Testament epistles papyri. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 12:54, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

@Leszek Jańczuk: I want to be able to do two things: 1) to identify and fill the gaps on commons; 2) to group the papyri in various ways and preselect data for visualization via Extension:Graph. When I first tried to approach these tasks, however, I couldn't even tell what was there and what wasn't, let alone take it all in. So, I looked for some basic structure to help me navigate the mess: papyri can obviously be grouped by the books they transmit, while the books can be further grouped by genre. Of the four New Testament genres, apocalypse and acts are represented by one exemplar each, so these are left alone. Taken together with the four gospels, they make up something like 5,100 verses; the rest, 21 books that is, all epistles, add up to under 2,800 verses. With most of the epistles being at least an order of magnitude smaller in size than an average gospel, separating them from the big boys was a most natural thing to do. How you could possibly find this common-sense scheme excessive is beyond me. Primaler (talk) 17:13, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Some of these categories have only one element. Why not uncials? Papyri are very fragmentary, sometimes only 2-4 verses. Sinaiticus and Vaticanus are steel most important manuscripts. These categories are good for Commons. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 02:43, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

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I noticed that you undid my removal of David Attenborough's "Kt" post-nominals. As most knights are Knights Bachelor, those post-nominal letters are not used unless there is a reason (clergy, for example, don't receive the accolade and therefore aren't Sirs; instead, they use the appropriate post-nominals[2]). This style is recommended by both Debrett's [3] and the Imperial Society of Knights Bachelor [4]. (I can't find anything on the correct usage of post-nominals on gov.uk or the Monarchy's website). As far as I know, this is also the consensus on Wikipedia: a quick glance at the first ten or so articles in Category:Knights Bachelor reveals exactly zero using the Kt post-nominals.--JorisEnter (talk) 07:25, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

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Mediaeval Studies pdf for Old English

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• Nancy Porter Stork (1989). "Is 'ice' in Old English". Mediaeval Studies. 51: 287–303. doi:10.1484/J.MS.2.306853.

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Illustrating Old English Articles

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In looking for someone who might be interested in assessing the article Citole, I noticed that you have done some work similar to my own interests. I spent much time digging out the illustrations for the Citole article from online copies of medieval manuscripts (and then later found out I had duplicated the work of a pioneering musicologist). I like your idea about illustrating Old English articles with examples side-by-side. I'm not sure where to begin, but I have a brief knowledge of the language. At any rate, hello.Jacqke (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

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