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Thoughts of Ionesco[edit]

If you are talking about Thoughts of Ionesco which was deleted by myself over 4 years ago as a result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thoughts of Ionesco, I would suggest that the best thing to do is to write a proper draft of an article, showing why it is notable with reference to independent and reliable sources, then submit that draft for review at Articles for Creation mentioning that you need to have it checked to see whether it is sufficiently improved over the previous deleted article to be acceptable. (Administrators can do that, other editors cannot see deleted versions of articles.) Thanks to Bencherlite for the helpful wording I borrowed for this reply, — Cirt (talk) 04:33, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Profane Existence,

It seems to me that an article you worked on, Thoughts of Ionesco (American band), may be copied from http://www.mtv.com/artists/thoughts-of-ionesco/. It's entirely possible that I made a mistake, but I wanted to let you know because Wikipedia is strict about copying from other sites.

It's important that you edit the article and rewrite it in your own words, unless you're absolutely certain nothing in it is copied. If you're not sure how to fix the problem or have any questions, there are people at the help desk who are happy to assist you.

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A tag has been placed on Thoughts of Ionesco (American band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.mtv.com/artists/thoughts-of-ionesco/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Reply[edit]

I see it at Thoughts of Ionesco (American band).

Unfortunately it looks like you have some problems with it, as expressed here on your user talk page, above. — Cirt (talk) 17:28, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but no matter whether it was from Allmusic or MTV, it looks like there was copyvio going on there. — Cirt (talk) 20:53, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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--Orange Mike | Talk 18:58, 11 February 2014 (UTC) Help me out[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I'm not doing anything in the interest of promotion/publicity, but, rather, as a music journalist, I wanted to contribute information about some bands who aren't included in Wikipedia. I have no relationship, commercial or otherwise, with these artists; I simple want to contribute. Profane Existence (talk) 19:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I disagree that your editing so far has been promotional, and I will therefore be happy to unblock you if you deal with the username issue. You may be working for the Profane Existence record label, in which case if you like you can use a username such as "John at Profane Existence", that indicates that you do so, but not just "Profane Existence", since that suggests that the account is for use not by an individual, but by a business, which is against by Wikipedia policy. Alternatively, you can use a name unconnected with the label, but my personal view is that there is a good case for being upfront about your connection. On the other hand, you may have no connection with the label, in which case your username is against policy because it is misleading, and you need to choose a username which has no connection at all with "Profane Existence". Either way, please choose a new username, and post a new unblock request, but this time using the template {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} instead of {{unblock|Your reason here}}. I can't promise that your request will be accepted, as that will be a matter for whatever administrator reviews it, but I personally see no problem if you choose a suitable username. A word of advice: to avoid wasting time by making a request for a username that is already in use, having it declined, and having to try again, go to the URL https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=1&username=Profane+Existence, type your chosen new username into the box in place of "Profane Existence", and click on "Go". If the username you have chosen is already in use, it will show up, so you can't have it: if not, the next one alphabetically will show up, so the one you have chosen should be OK. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:10, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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  • A little advice on how to go on from here, assuming that you do get unblocked with a new username. You say that you want to "contribute information about some bands who aren't included in Wikipedia". There are two problems there. Firstly, many of them are not included in Wikipedia because they do not satisfy Wikipedia's inclusion criteria, in which case you are likely to find that any work you do to create articles will be wasted, as the articles will be deleted. Secondly, even if you stick to subjects which do satisfy Wikipedia's inclusion standards, being new and unused to Wikipedia's ways, you are likely to find that, without realising it, you do things which are not in line with Wikipedia's standards in other ways, and again find that your work is deleted. Over the years I have seen this happen over and over again to new editors, who come here keen to contribute, and eventually leave, disillusioned and disheartened. In my experience new editors are much more likely to have a successful time here if they start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than writing new articles. If you do that, then any mistakes you make (which you will, because we all do) will be small ones, and you won't be losing substantial amounts of work. Gradually, you will learn more and more about how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough to be able to write new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Of course, it is up to you, but that is my advice, based on seeing countless editors come and go, and others come and stay, over the seven and a half years I have been here. I am also posting you (above) a "Welcome" template, with links to various pages of information which may be helpful to you. Don't try to read them all before you do any more editing, as there is far too much there to take in, but do look at the ones which seem most relevant to your needs, and of course you can come back and follow links to other pages in the future as and when they become relevant to you. (I know there is already a welcome message from Cirt at the top of this page, but this one has rather more links, as yu can see.) JamesBWatson (talk) 13:28, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]